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Old 11-15-2005, 07:35 PM   #1
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ok designers seriously

Alright so whats the deal i have 3 diff designers each doing different projects and 6 days later NONE of them are to be found anywhere on ICQ???? wtf and no i didn't pay any of them yet so nothings at loss but time. How about a reliable designer??

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Old 11-15-2005, 07:37 PM   #2
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Alright so whats the deal i have 3 diff designers each doing different projects and 6 days later NONE of them are to be found anywhere on ICQ???? wtf and no i didn't pay any of them yet so nothings at loss but time. How about a reliable designer??

haha thats like finding a skinny webmaster.



ps. I am a designer. Also unreliable. It is our nature.
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Old 11-15-2005, 07:37 PM   #3
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Old 11-15-2005, 07:38 PM   #4
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Thats what happens when ya go to obscure places to find "Top notch" work while not paying enough.

Sorry to break it to ya kiddo.
Ya want shit done you pay.

Stop asking creatives to do charity work.

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Old 11-15-2005, 07:42 PM   #5
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Old 11-15-2005, 07:46 PM   #6
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Thats what happens when ya go to obscure places to find "Top notch" work while not paying enough.

Sorry to break it to ya kiddo.
Ya want shit done you pay.

Stop asking creatives to do charity work.
odd part is i've asked what they want upfront they say nothing they will get paid when its finished

*shrug* not asking for charity work, doesn't have to be absolute all star design work either just somthing to suit the need.


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Old 11-15-2005, 08:08 PM   #7
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Thats what happens when ya go to obscure places to find "Top notch" work while not paying enough.

Sorry to break it to ya kiddo.
Ya want shit done you pay.

Stop asking creatives to do charity work.
preach it brotha preach it!
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Old 11-15-2005, 08:21 PM   #8
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odd part is i've asked what they want upfront they say nothing they will get paid when its finished

*shrug* not asking for charity work, doesn't have to be absolute all star design work either just somthing to suit the need.


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Well take it from a designer.

Umm a real designer that knows.

No pay? there is no time, thus no design.
If I did work I got paid for it before hand at least 1/2 upfront.
Then at least if performance sucks or ya get no results ya can out them and drag em through the mud, hell I will even help you do it.

I have had clients and people say "Checks in the Mail" I have heard all the stories and I tell ya...

If I charged for every person that that came to me and expected free work upfront I would be a multi millionair.
So if ya want results break out the pocket book

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Old 11-15-2005, 08:27 PM   #9
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1/2 up front seems to get the job done for me, though from time to time I do run across a designer that is sleeping on the job. I also give them PLENTY of notice because I know it very well may take them a while.
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Old 11-16-2005, 07:46 AM   #11
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Alright so whats the deal i have 3 diff designers each doing different projects and 6 days later NONE of them are to be found anywhere on ICQ???? wtf and no i didn't pay any of them yet so nothings at loss but time. How about a reliable designer??

sad to hear that... be careful with your choice
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Old 11-16-2005, 08:11 AM   #12
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Well take it from a designer.

Umm a real designer that knows.

No pay? there is no time, thus no design.
If I did work I got paid for it before hand at least 1/2 upfront.
Then at least if performance sucks or ya get no results ya can out them and drag em through the mud, hell I will even help you do it.

I have had clients and people say "Checks in the Mail" I have heard all the stories and I tell ya...

If I charged for every person that that came to me and expected free work upfront I would be a multi millionair.
So if ya want results break out the pocket book
that's right man...
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Old 11-16-2005, 08:16 AM   #13
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Designers are a waste of time and money.

I think busting a cheesy design out of MS Paint in 2 minutes for a well planned, functional and usable website works just as well as some "designed" website that works half as well because the functionality doesn't fit with what the designer wants to show "creatively".

Maybe I'm just jaded, though.
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Old 11-16-2005, 09:29 AM   #14
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Old 11-16-2005, 03:15 PM   #21
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Stop asking creatives to do charity work.



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Thats what happens when ya go to obscure places to find "Top notch" work while not paying enough.

Sorry to break it to ya kiddo.
Ya want shit done you pay.

Stop asking creatives to do charity work.

haha first time i actually agree with you.
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I am fast reliable and my prices are based on the quality you want. You want something simple, I charge less... you want something nice or fantastic, pull out your wallet. Seems I have to bend over backwards to get clients sometimes.

I will not be available for a week though, so if you want a reliable designer contact me in a week ;)
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Well take it from a designer.

Umm a real designer that knows.

No pay? there is no time, thus no design.
If I did work I got paid for it before hand at least 1/2 upfront.
Then at least if performance sucks or ya get no results ya can out them and drag em through the mud, hell I will even help you do it.

I have had clients and people say "Checks in the Mail" I have heard all the stories and I tell ya...

If I charged for every person that that came to me and expected free work upfront I would be a multi millionair.
So if ya want results break out the pocket book
- Exactly what AlienQ said!!

Why would anyone do work with out half up front? i have only done that with people i have known for a while that i am on a personal level with.

Hope it gets worked out!

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Old 11-18-2005, 02:02 PM   #30
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