TurboAngel

But think it's ok to take Xanax, Vicodin and drink whiskey? I don't understand I mean I know pot isn't legal every where but isn't taking all those pills and drinking worse?

I smoked a joint at 10 am with my g/f and when her hubby got home at 4:30 she was all fucked up (Xanax,Vicodin and Whiskey) so her hubby said I can't be friends with her. Is that insane or what?


Oh well I don't get it, he thinks it's ok to take all those pills and drink cuz it's legal. It's sad IMO.

jimthefiend

Have you been beating him regularly?

That'll cure his lippy attitude.

Doctor Dre

The way you said it, it was NOT ok for her to take that

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I am against Pot, he killed more than 2 million people

TurboAngel

Are you ok with the pills and drinking? IMO drinking is worse than pot.

jimthefiend

Drinking is WAY worse than pot, both for health reasons and it's economic impact.

Screaming

I think they should make it legal.

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TurboAngel

Thanks you 2, how the hell do I get a 65 year old man to understand that?

Zester

some people have to take certain drugs to prevent them from killing themselves but with minimum addiction to the drug (which is not great but at least helps them to survive) and i'm not talking about beer

pot is not one of those drugs

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I told you.


BEAT HIM.

Lycanthrope

He believe he was speaking of the infamous Cambodian leader Pol Pot.

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TurboAngel

I had no clue what he was talking about.

Screaming

Make him take a hit lol.

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SilentKnight

Seems the world already has enough naturally retarded people taking up space. Why smoke pot and skew the numbers?

NickPapageorgio

Yeah we wouldn't want to cut in on the alcoholic population now would we? That would be bad for the alcohol industry's business.

I have an IQ up in the 120's...I am a heavy marijuana smoker. I don't get the "retard" connection. While under the influence of marijuana, I can say, without question, that I have never done anything to get myself in trouble nor have I ever done anything that would put me or anyone else at risk. I usually just take a few bong hits, put on some nice music and chill...watch some cartoons...eat a few reese cups and go to bed. If that is detrimental behavior, then I am guilty as charged.

I can't say the same for Alcohol. I have been in more fights and general trouble over the years than I would care to mention while under the influence of it. It makes me beligerent and careless. When I drink, especially dark liquors for some reason, all I want to do is find a fight. Usually, it's not hard to find one.

The real reason that marijuana isn't legal is because big tobacco lobbyists and alcohol lobbyists don't want anyone cutting in on their piece of the proverbial pie. If marijuana was legalized, both would stand to lose money. They gotta pay for those private jets and cigar boats somehow.

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It's most definitely NOT legal to take those pills and drink alcohol.

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bringer

personal experiences dont mean shit. i havent been violent under the influence of either nor have i put myself or anyone else at risk. the argument that alcohol is worse is counter-productive and people should just give it up already. both pot and alcohol are mind altering substances and should be legal to be used by responsible people.

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Herb Kornfield

The moves towards legalizing it are in progress and you will see legalization become a reality in the next 10 years.

People just wanna get high and thats the deal.

NickPapageorgio

Well, my argument was that he put the statement out there about "skewing the naturally retarded population" bla bla bla..which was a dumb statement. You're correct, personal experiences don't hold true for everyone as everyone is different, however, I wasn't making the case for marijuana with my own personal experiences, I was just stating MY PERSONAL reason for enjoying marijuana over alcohol. Nowhere did I say in my post, "Marijuana is better than alcohol because it makes me feel not as violent bla bla bla..." People can make their own decisions. I have made mine.

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yeah, i understand.

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pot doesnt make everyone all lazy and calm ya know...some people go the other way

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True. The problem is also that there would need to be new laws specifically for marijuana smoking if it were legalized. I.e. how long do you have to wait until you're allowed to drive again after you've gotten high? The fact that you don't get 'flashbacks' from alcohol is a determining factor in making it legal. When you smoke marijuana regularly, cannibis by-products can come back a few days after you've had your last joint, bong, etc. and intoxicate you to a certain degree. That slows down your reaction time significantly, which means you shouldn't be driving then. This doesn't happen with alcohol, at least I've seen no documented proof of this.

A lot of people don't realize that legalizing marijuana is not as simple as saying, "Okay, it's legal. Go smoke pot all you want now." Laws concerning alcoholic beverages and the intoxication that results from consuming them are pretty strict in most countries, so it isn't as much of a legal issue as marijuana. Of course, smoking pot once in a while shouldn't be a big deal... but until the effects of it have been researched to the extent that the effects of alcohol have been researched, I don't believe you'll see it legalized in a lot of countries.

That's just my opinion. I could very well be wrong.

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mikesinner

A lot of people are against pot but for the wrong reasons. Smoking a joint is like smoking 10 cigarettes plus the fact that it has a lot more chemicals in it. Scientist still dosn't fully understand what affect they may have on the human body

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Its not illegal here. When used modistly it cant hurt ( that goes for most drugs )
Its excessive use that does the damage.

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Good post, but I don't think marijuana legalization is hinging on the results of one study or another. The studies have been done, according to the largest study of weed conducted by the U.S. government (of which I know)... maryjane is pretty much neither good nor bad for your health.

Seems weird to me, as I was drilled with the "more carcinogens in a joint than in 10 cigs" crap as a youngster as well ... but I know so many weed smokers, and nobody I know or anyone THEY know has ever gotten cancer or emphysema from smoking weed ... so???

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Prescription drugs are as bad if not worse than any street drug. People in the US pop them like candy these days Drug companies are EVIL

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My comment above was primarily said in jest, I'm amused it motivated you to respond with a 4-paragraph justification.

Why does it always seem that in msg. forums people are so well-aware of their exact I.Q.? Personally, I haven't a clue what mine actually is. I must've been away the day the census people came around with the test.

That's a subjective opinion, though. Every else's results may vary. I've known a lot of rather complacent drinkers over the years, along with the 10-foot tall and bulletproof drunks.

I also have a buddy who's smoked more pot and hash over the years than I've smoked cigarettes...and the lad can't keep a train of thought from the start of a sentence to the end. Trying to hold a conversation with the guy is mostly an exercise in frustration and futility. And despite earning a better-than-average income as a long-haul trucker over the past few decades, he still hasn't got a dime to his name and plays hide-'n-seek with his landlords and debtors; the vast majority of his revenue gone up in smoke.

Anything taken in excess ain't a good thing. That's all I know.

diesel

hahaha

Learn from Ivana Fukalot .. She smokes weed and her site converts like 1:200 without trials



Wanna some?

bringer

id hit it

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Quagmire

Like Chris Rock said, they don't want you taking the 'illegal' drugs and feeling good because then they can't sell your their 'legal' drugs and make billions...

Its a sad industry built on a lie.

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cherrylula

Thats some serious alcoholic behavior. They are such bad drunks they don't want to get caught with weed, and often bad drunks do get caught and if they have weed it just gets them in much more trouble so they avoid it at all costs.

Just like you will see hardcore boozers say they don't like to own a gun. Its often because they can't trust themselves and the problem runs much deeper.

cherrylula

...because a substance abuser is just that.

Tom_PM

Saw this on yahoo news or somewhere the other day:

Marijuana: THC Counters Cancer-Causing Chemicals Produced by Smoke

A new report says that Marijuana is not a cancer risk since the THC acts to counter the cancer-causing chemicals produced by it's smoke unlike tobacco where the nicotine does the opposite. The report is by Dr Robert Melamede of the Univ. of Colorado.
"THC turns down the carcinogenic potential," he said stating that in studies on mice THC seems to block the enzyme that turns chemicals in smoke to their cancer promoting form. Also cannabinoids help to reduce immune regulated responses to smoke.
Cells in the respiratory tract have cells with receptors where nicotine docks but none have been found for THC or other cannabinoids. Cannabinoid receptors do appear in the brain where they may protect cells from death due to injuries like a stroke.

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Just smile and know that one day it will be legalized, I'm sure it's only a matter of time imo.

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Acohol is a poison
Nicotine is a poison
THC is a medicine

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Antonio

I was talking about Pol Pot ;)

NickPapageorgio

I kind of figured it was but replied with what I said anyway. I am not a big fan of the "4 word" message board replies. If I weigh in on a certain subject, it's because I feel like replying to that particular topic, not because I get paid to do it or anything else.

As far as the IQ thing goes, I merely stated that to point out that there are some highly intelligent people who do, indeed, smoke marijuana. Either way, I've been smoking a quarter ounce of bud a week for as long as I can remember and it will stay that way...laws or no laws.

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TurboAngel

I know!

Thanks for the comments I feel much better knowing I'm not crazy. IMO the Dr. is the biggest drug dealer in town.

TheJimmy

Agreed, but the Dr. is exactly why, eventually, I believe this substance will be legalized. There are valid studies showing it's use in the treatment of a few illenesses. I mean, come on, Dr's can prescribe variants of opium and other VERY deadly drugs (ie oncologists) why the hell should a Dr not be able to prescribe a damm botanical medicine to a patient if they feel it would do them good?

The high courts have struck down medical marijuana initiatives based on current laws, the only thing that will make it legal eventually is electing congressmen and senators that actually RESPECT the professional training and opinion of doctors. If I were a doctor today I'd be irate that a politician would tell me what is best for my patients in my practice.

When someone gives up over a decade of their life with some intense levels of training, and incurring often a few 100k worth of debt to get into a profession, you'd THINK they might have 'some' ability to make good decisions in treating their patients.

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NickPapageorgio

Agreed. As opposed to some slimeball politician who has backdoored and blackballed half the people he's ever known to get into the position that he/she is in.

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TurboAngel

I think the government makes so much more $$ keeping it illegal. Here in NC the cop's just take it and give you a ticket, it's a misdemeanor as long as it's less than an ounce and a 1/2 so you pay the funky little $100 fine and go on.

rip raster

new studies have shown that chronic pot use stimulates cell growth in the hippocambus, part of the limbic system of the brain in charge of transferring information into memory

Maxy

Good Shit

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HAPPYPEEKERS

Nice find..

I think that drinking is much worse than smoking weed

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ElvisManson

Another spin on how pot is good for your brain.

http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20051015/fob7.asp

"High Times for Brain Growth: Marijuana-like drug multiplies neurons
Christen Brownlee
In the stoner stereotype, pot smokers and dying brain cells go hand in hand. However, new research suggests the situation may be more uplifting than that. A drug that functions as concentrated marijuana does may spur neurogenesis, the process by which the brain gives birth to new nerve cells.
Previous research had suggested that neurogenesis happens only in select locations in the brain, such as the hippocampus, a region involved in learning and memory. Some studies have shown that this process is inhibited by most illicit drugs, such as cocaine, heroin, and methamphetamine. However, says Xia Zhang of the University of Saskatchewan in Saskatoon, marijuana's effect on neurogenesis has not been clear."

GlydeGirl

The REAL reason pot is illegal has to do with historically eliminating competition for the cotton-growers. Hemp has been used for centuries for rope, clothing, paper, and food and can grow abundantly all over the world. When we were first developing North America, the cotton growers lobbied the government to crack down on hemp products, as hemp was cutting into the cotton industry's bottom line. The government agreed and hemp became the "outlaw". Until the cotton industry changes its mind about hemp products, the ban will continue.

BRISK

That might be the original reason it was made illegal, but I think modern day opposition to it has grown far beyond cotton growers.

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