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Old 11-14-2005, 12:53 PM   #51
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Old 11-14-2005, 12:54 PM   #52
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Old 11-14-2005, 12:56 PM   #53
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I think that the major moral objection to pot has to do with the "illegality" of it (and the unchallenged belief that every law on the books is there for a GOOD REASON, i.e. to protect the average consumer) -- therefore I believe the cotton-growers still are the major reason.
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Old 11-14-2005, 01:14 PM   #54
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I think that the major moral objection to pot has to do with the "illegality" of it (and the unchallenged belief that every law on the books is there for a GOOD REASON, i.e. to protect the average consumer) -- therefore I believe the cotton-growers still are the major reason.
It was made illegal because it was the drug of choice for minorities and non conformists. Both of which were considered to be a seeping sore to this nation early on.
The cotton industry had very little to due with it becoming illegal they just happened to get the perks. Keep in mind the cotton industry not only could easily switch over to a higher profit producing crop (hemp) with zero side effects. Many cotton fields and farmers were indeed hemp farmers first before they had to switch anyways (same with tobacco and a few others). The paint industry took a mild hit, though was able to come up with a substitute for hemp oil so they also did not object much to the congressional meeting either. In reality the only industry to object to hemp becoming illegal was the bird seed industry. To this day they still have an exemption that allows them to include sterilized hemp seeds in bird food. No other seed can put such a sheen on feathers as hemp does.

Though the correlation between hemp and marijuana legalization seems to run hand in hand, it is a funny double edged sword. Hemp production is illegal because it would be "to hard" for the DEA and the police to be able to enforce marijuana cultivation due to how similar the plants look. The other edge of that sword of course is simple genetics. If hemp were legal to grow and produce cross pollination would occur in outdoor crops rapidly and thus would weaken the outdoor grown marijuana crops, eventually making them useless.

The main issue stands as to why marijuana is illegal. The answer still remains the same. It is more profitable and convenient to keep illegal. It still is favored by radicals and minorities and thus gives an easy way to bust, enslave, and remove the rights from those that do not conform. Then the drug just makes way to much money being illegal for everyone who enforces every aspect of it.
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Old 11-14-2005, 01:14 PM   #55
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I think that the major moral objection to pot has to do with the "illegality" of it (and the unchallenged belief that every law on the books is there for a GOOD REASON, i.e. to protect the average consumer) -- therefore I believe the cotton-growers still are the major reason.
It wasn't just the Cotton growers. The lobby also included the Petro-Chem industry and the Lumber industry. All 3 of those groups lobbied to have hemp made illegal. The fast that prohibition had just ended and there were thousands of G-Men doing nothing didn't hurt either.

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Old 11-14-2005, 01:39 PM   #56
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That might be the original reason it was made illegal, but I think modern day opposition to it has grown far beyond cotton growers.
I agree and in my opinion which is just an opinion but if it was legal it would cause a lot of problems for govt and big business

pharmaceutical companies - could no longer say take a pill for everything

drug testing companies would lose out on profits as well as law enforcement as they both make tons off of smokers

Oil companies may face competition

cotton and paper companies

alcohol and tabbacco

these are just a few that I can think of but as I said before this is just my opinion I say decrimalize and tax the hell out of it and use the tax money to pay for healthcare or education or something useful. One last thing is the fast food companies would be happy with all the munchies people would have.

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Old 11-14-2005, 01:53 PM   #57
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I believe the cotton-growers still are the major reason
I disagree

IMO, marijuana is still illegal because taking a position on marijuana legalization is political suicide because politics is controlled by stuffy old people who are the greatest voters and donors to political parties. These stuffy old people think that marijuana is the devil drug and that if it were to be legalized, everyone would suddenly run to the store and buy pounds of it and begin smoking it all day long, and as a result crime would increase and society would crumble. REEFER MADNESS!!!

For marijuana to be completely legalized/decriminalized, it would require political support to do so, and mainstream politicians know that it isn't safe to promote such an idea. Besides, a significant percentage of politicians are those stuffy old people that I described.

By the way, marijuana production and consumption is pretty much illegal in almost every country of the world, including countries that don't even grow any cotton, but all those countries do have one thing in common: politicians that are controlled by stuffy old people/voters who think legalizing marijuana would destroy society.

People have an irrational fear of marijuana because of decades of demonization. They'll never change, they'll take those fears to the grave with them. Hopefully younger generations won't share the same fear and hysteria about marijuana when they reach the prime age for political power.
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Old 11-14-2005, 03:45 PM   #58
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Old 11-14-2005, 03:53 PM   #59
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I am against Pot, he killed more than 2 million people

just throwing numbers around eh?

anyway I can assure you alcohol takes down more than 10 times as many people every year than pot...

Combined with using pills that fucks you up in ways Pot can't come near, I have to side with TurboAngel here.

One thing though, too much pot makes you slow and inproductive no doubt about that, been there done that.
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Old 11-14-2005, 03:56 PM   #60
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just throwing numbers around eh?

anyway I can assure you alcohol takes down more than 10 times as many people every year than pot...

Combined with using pills that fucks you up in ways Pot can't come near, I have to side with TurboAngel here.

One thing though, too much pot makes you slow and inproductive no doubt about that, been there done that.

Um.....he was talking about Pol Pot. Perhaps reading the rest of the thread would prevent situations like this from happening again.

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Old 11-14-2005, 03:58 PM   #61
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I am against pot and I am a liberal.

I don't drink or take any prescription painkillers or medication other than antibiotics when I need them.
I also don't consume caffiene.

Generalizing is bad.
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Old 11-14-2005, 04:00 PM   #62
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Old 11-14-2005, 04:00 PM   #63
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people take this issue way too far, if ya smoke it ya smoke it, if ya don't ya don't who cares really
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Old 11-14-2005, 05:06 PM   #64
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Um.....he was talking about Pol Pot. Perhaps reading the rest of the thread would prevent situations like this from happening again.


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