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pornmasta 05-13-2007 09:57 AM

well one i received some advertisments for concerts, but directly from a band, never for porn.

annaliese 05-13-2007 09:58 AM

banners posted on myspace profiles/blogs/comments with affiliate links are generally stripped pretty quickly. repeat "abusers" find their profiles deleted.

pornmasta 05-13-2007 10:03 AM

and no problem with SG ???

Chris Corn 05-13-2007 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by annaliese (Post 12419609)
fine fine fine i will change it. =)

the sig i mean.

revshare change later maaaaybe. ;)

DO IT ;) You'll thank everyone for saying it later.

quantum-x 05-13-2007 11:12 AM

Oh hello, look what got bumped.

You may or may not be interested to know that a few weeks ago I changed some stuff on one of my hosts, and the redirect I had up on cutegoths.com turned off, so the 'site' went back up.

It consisted of about 20 hotlinked images directly to SG, and only linked to SG. Anyhow, low and behold, I got a fake takedown notice from SG.

Here's how the transaction went:
BTW. This is somewhat lengthy. Skip it if you like, but I have tried to keep it entertaining.
Yes, I was being cocky. I'm more than happy to comply w/ legitimate requests, but I'm tired of lawyers sending out crap that isn't even legal.

BTW, you can still own cutegoths.com, drama included. email me / icq me with an offer.

No, No ipod etc btw ;)

SG
Quote:

Originally Posted by SG
Dear Mr. X:

I am an attorney for SG Services, Inc. (?SuicideGirls?). As you know, your affiliate account with SuicideGirls was terminated over a year ago and you were asked to remove all SuicideGirls images and content from your site, http://www.cutegoths.com.

I see that you have yet to remove this content and request that you do so and confirm its removal to me to prevent legal action being taken against you.

Sincerely,
Leslie A. Cowan
Attorney for SG Services, Inc.

My Reply
Quote:

Originally Posted by qx
Dear Leslie

Four points, if I may.
#1 - I am not hosting any of the content. Your client is making it freely available to be linked to. Preventing this is facile, and is an action they can take at any time. In fact, I'm willing to provide your clients, directly, or via you, the code to do so. Not only that, as your client has probably failed to mention, they receive all credit and traffic that is sent via that page [minimal as it may be], as a gratuity.
#2 - You have not made it clear to me what, if anything is infringing..
#3 - I only respond to legal inquiries that are sent via registered post. As you are no doubt aware, there are many public cases where the DCMA has been cited inconsistently, much to the embarrassment of the issuing parties.
#4 - Following on from that, I am having troubles finding your name registered with any legal firms. If you could please update me on your credentials, for reasons highlighted above, I would be most appreciative.

I am not raising any of these points to be inflammatory, but merely as a standard response to help me understand the situation at hand, which I am sure you respect.
I am more than happy to further this discussion to the points above.

Yours faithfully,
X

SG
Quote:

Originally Posted by SG
Dear Mr. X:

The infringing content on your site consists of SuicideGirls images, of which SuicideGirls is the copyright owner. The following images are posted without our authorization on your site:

http://www.suicidegirls.com/media/gi...viewmedium.jpg

http://www.suicidegirls.com/media/gi...viewmedium.jpg

stack more images hosted on their site listed

Please promptly remove these images.
Sincerely,
Leslie A. Cowan

Attorney for SG Services, Inc.

My Reply
Quote:

Originally Posted by qx
Dear Leslie.
You have not addressed any of the points I have mentioned in my previous email.

Again, I am more than happy to comply, but until you address the points in my email, I cannot take such actions:
Namely, my attorney advises that:
1) You provide details of which state you are licensed in, and
2) A proper DCMA complaint [if that is indeed what you are wishing to lodge]

I am advised that I am able to proceed quite rapidly in compliance with you, but again I must draw attention to point number 1 in my previous email.
I will repeat what I said: I AM NOT HOSTING THIS CONTENT. THIS CONTENT IS ON YOUR SERVERS, FREELY AVAILABLE FOR ALL TO LINK TO.

This practice is called hotlinking, and is ENTIRELY preventable by your 'client', and is also entirely your 'client's' responsibility.
There are established precedents dismissing previous legal cases of 'hotlinking'.

If you are concerned about protecting your IP, please refer to:
http://images.google.com/images?q=su...=1&sa=N&tab=wi [set safe search preferences to off]
Which details just over 669,000 sites that are actively stealing your 'client's' content.

In the meantime, perhaps you can point your 'client's' technical team to the following link:
http://www.besthostratings.com/artic...t-linking.html

Once this is implemented, you will find that the 'infringing content' is no longer on my site.

I would encourage you to read the above points, and the points raised in my previous email.
The power to 'fix' this problem is entirely in your 'client's' hands.

Yours faithfully

And finally:
SG
Quote:

Originally Posted by SG
Dear Mr. X:

I am licensed to practice law in the state of California. You are not
authorized to post these images since your affiliate account has been
terminated and you have been repeatedly asked to remove them. If you want a
DMCA format notice, here it is:


I am an attorney for SG Services, Inc. ("SuicideGirls").
I am writing to report copyright infringement on your site.

Copyrighted images owned by SuicideGirls appear on your site
http://www.cutegoths.com at the following links:
http://www.suicidegirls.com/media/gi...ox/previewmedi
um.jpg

more links that.. are on their site [?!]


Acting as an agent on behalf of SuicideGirls, I have a good faith belief
that the use of the photos identified above is not authorized by
SuicideGirls, any agent, or the law. I further declare, under penalty of
perjury, that the above is accurate, that SuicideGirls is the copyright
owner of all of the photos identified above and that I am authorized to act
on behalf of SuicideGirls.

SuicideGirls hereby reserves all rights and remedies it has at law and in
equity and nothing contained herein shall be deemed a waiver of such rights
or an election of remedies. Please let me know if you have any questions
concerning the above.

Sincerely,

Leslie A. Cowan
Attorney for SG Services, Inc.
6121 Santa Monica Blvd. #102
Los Angeles, CA 90038
(323) 667-9000
[email protected]

My Final Reply
Quote:

Originally Posted by qx
Ms Cowan:
As you're well aware:
#1 - I'm Australian. The DMCA doesn't actually exist outside of America. You know this.
#2 - "Repeatedly asked to remove" - the last conversation I had with your offices was the 30/11/2005. There was no takedown demand.
#3 - If I had the time or patience, I'd be filing a counter request. You know exactly how this would end up. But then again, I'm not American, so it wouldn't actually be legal.
#4 - Hotlinking is not copyright infringement. There is no case law. You know this.

For your reference, I've included a picture that might help you.
You can print it out and colour it in, if you like.
http://www.cutegoths.com/hithere.gif

Douchebags.

The Ghost 05-13-2007 11:31 AM

http://www.cutegoths.com/hithere.gif



:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

stev0 05-13-2007 11:41 AM

hahaha, that's hilarious... i've heard a lot of bad things about suicide girls in the past, but this is just rediculous. They obviously have no idea how to run an affiliate program.

tradermcduck 05-13-2007 11:41 AM

http://www.cutegoths.com/hithere.gif

OMG this is so funny :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

bump :thumbsup

Steve Awesome 05-13-2007 11:46 AM

Funny! I'd like to shoot for you guys.

psili 05-13-2007 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quantum-x (Post 12419983)
Oh hello, look what got bumped.

Though it be a lovely post of retort & counter-retort, I was sad of the image you posted ( it was funny though ). -- Can we, at least, have a savage "quantum-x" pic for this thread?

Please ?

-- edit: yea, old thread and blah blah blah... Just wanted a cool pic from someone who takes wicked-cool pics. *shrug*

Martin3 05-13-2007 11:58 AM

Didn't sound like it was a real lawyer to me. Looked it up, seems it is.
http://members.calbar.ca.gov/search/....aspx?x=246413

Though only been one for about 6 months. Which explains alot.

quantum-x 05-13-2007 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psili (Post 12420075)
Though it be a lovely post of retort & counter-retort, I was sad of the image you posted ( it was funny though ). -- Can we, at least, have a savage "quantum-x" pic for this thread?

Please ?

-- edit: yea, old thread and blah blah blah... Just wanted a cool pic from someone who takes wicked-cool pics. *shrug*

Oh alright. Latest batch of pano shots, and some shots from My Very Own Cinema [it's secret though, so shh]

http://ninjito.com/dump/2007-05-05/qx-pano-1.jpg
http://ninjito.com/dump/2007-05-05/qx-pano-2.jpg
http://ninjito.com/dump/2007-05-05/qx-pano-3.jpg

http://ninjito.com/qx-cinema-final-1.jpg
http://ninjito.com/qx-cinema-final-3.jpg
http://ninjito.com/qx-cinema-final-4.jpg

quantum-x 05-13-2007 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin3 (Post 12420104)
Didn't sound like it was a real lawyer to me. Looked it up, seems it is.
http://members.calbar.ca.gov/search/....aspx?x=246413

Though only been one for about 6 months. Which explains alot.

Yeah, I looked her up. She's as green as can be. Wonder if it's worth reporting to the bar.

psili 05-13-2007 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quantum-x (Post 12420105)
Oh alright. Latest batch of pano shots, and some shots from My Very Own Cinema [it's secret though, so shh]

Don't take this the wrong way, but the pics you take give me a chubby..... hahaha... Anyway - bad-ass as always. Thanks.

aico 05-13-2007 12:21 PM

http://www.cutegoths.com/hithere.gif

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

germ 05-13-2007 02:05 PM

holy shit. what a horrible way to run an affiliate program.

quantum x....great thread, even better pictures.

do you have a site up with all your photography? preferably in high rez, widescreen wallpaper sizes :]

quantum-x 05-13-2007 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by germ (Post 12420582)
holy shit. what a horrible way to run an affiliate program.

quantum x....great thread, even better pictures.

do you have a site up with all your photography? preferably in high rez, widescreen wallpaper sizes :]

Yeah, heads up on these guys. Shady from start to finish.

Thanks on the photos. No, I still don't have a site up really.
If you're brave -
http://www.ninjito.com/dump/
if you browse by dates, you'll see most of my recent stuff. There's also a lot of junk and crap in the / directory too, just a warning ;)

psili 05-13-2007 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quantum-x (Post 12420598)
Yeah, heads up on these guys. Shady from start to finish.

Thanks on the photos. No, I still don't have a site up really.
If you're brave -
http://www.ninjito.com/dump/
if you browse by dates, you'll see most of my recent stuff. There's also a lot of junk and crap in the / directory too, just a warning ;)

I'm no designer or anything but leave that directory open / live so I can have fun building some sort of site around it.... those pictures rock. Seriously... I'm trying to pick up RoR as another framework and having content to start with while learning a project on a development machine really helps.

Is that ok ?

--- Edit: BTW, I mean nothing about ripping content... Nothing about that. It's all localhost and if you want, if I actually build something, you can have the site.

germ 05-13-2007 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quantum-x (Post 12420598)
Yeah, heads up on these guys. Shady from start to finish.

Thanks on the photos. No, I still don't have a site up really.
If you're brave -
http://www.ninjito.com/dump/
if you browse by dates, you'll see most of my recent stuff. There's also a lot of junk and crap in the / directory too, just a warning ;)

thanks. some of these pictures are fucking incredible.

how do you find so many bad ass locations to shoot?

whomework 05-13-2007 04:39 PM

Thanks for the heads up!

uno 05-13-2007 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by germ (Post 12421074)
thanks. some of these pictures are fucking incredible.

how do you find so many bad ass locations to shoot?

It's a trade secret.

sexykat 05-13-2007 05:35 PM

This thread was a great read

Mutt 05-13-2007 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quantum-x (Post 12420598)
Thanks on the photos. No, I still don't have a site up really.
If you're brave -
http://www.ninjito.com/dump/
if you browse by dates, you'll see most of my recent stuff. There's also a lot of junk and crap in the / directory too, just a warning ;)

As always - amazing stuff. Why don't you have a website? that's insane that you don't share this with the world - you should get a publishing deal for a great coffee table book with the writings your mate does about the explorations.

quantum-x 05-13-2007 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 12422019)
As always - amazing stuff. Why don't you have a website? that's insane that you don't share this with the world - you should get a publishing deal for a great coffee table book with the writings your mate does about the explorations.

Two reasons really..
1) Laziness plays a part.
2) Photography is a hobby for me. It's one of the only ways I can relax. I really, really don't want it to become a job or commercialised.
When I shoot at the moment, I'm taking a frame for myself, not because I think others will like it, or it will sell, etc.

PunkRockXXX 06-04-2007 05:32 AM

bump!

fk SG!

Aussie Rebel 06-04-2007 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quantum-x (Post 12420598)
Yeah, heads up on these guys. Shady from start to finish.

Thanks on the photos. No, I still don't have a site up really.
If you're brave -
http://www.ninjito.com/dump/
if you browse by dates, you'll see most of my recent stuff. There's also a lot of junk and crap in the / directory too, just a warning ;)

http://www.ninjito.com/dump/GFYBot/ :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

footmonkey 06-19-2007 07:18 AM

I just found this thread on google.

Saw a few of the ninjito pics and the ones I saw were all excellent. Nice one!

Anyone looking for an alt-porn chick see sig (Kimberly Kane) and also http://www.razordolls.com is a community similar to SG but the Razordolls guys are very cool indeed. Their aff prog is also CCBill :thumbsup

selena 06-19-2007 07:58 AM

I <3 quantum-x.

Iron Fist 09-02-2007 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by divine116 (Post 12413621)
Hi everyone! What's the best thing to do to increase my traffics?

Stop posting on GFY and find some trades.

ljflux 09-06-2007 09:29 AM

wath a bunch of

TeenCat 11-27-2008 10:55 PM

hey everyone, i am really sorry to bump this old thread to the top, but i need to know whats up, if there are some new informations about this sponsor and if someone is promoting them? i want really bad to promote them on my goth toplist but after reading tihstopic i am not sure if it will be good turn ... their 5usd per join is really funny, but their material is excelent imho so i want to give them a try. but if they are not paying ... is here someone who have possitive results with suicide girls? thanks much for any reply and wish you luck with your sites :thumbsup

mikesinner 11-27-2008 11:03 PM

They are idiots, always have been. It even says in their terms that you cannot promote them on any site that promotes porn.

Why would anyone push them. When a sponsor has a bunch of crazy rules it should throw up some serious red lights.

crockett 11-27-2008 11:24 PM

Don't even waste your time it's not worth it. You can't promote them on sites with porn links anyway it's some really dumb ass shit.

There was some other site think it's called GodsGirls that allows adult as far as I know.

XXXMovie4M 11-27-2008 11:27 PM

i just found out they are making more changes to thier program next month.

they are dropping the name suicidegirls.com because they feel it's not politically correct and they are changing it to suicidecunts.com :321GFY

mikesinner 11-27-2008 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XXXMovie4M (Post 15115630)
i just found out they are making more changes to thier program next month.

they are dropping the name suicidegirls.com because they feel it's not politically correct and they are changing it to suicidecunts.com :321GFY

ya, that's a much nicer name and much more pc, what a bunch of retards.

Iron Fist 11-28-2008 12:16 AM

Don't promote them.... for the tiny amount you think your making, they will with hold payment, close your affiliate account and state you broke their terms.

Just don't bother. God's Girls is a much better site.

TeenCat 11-28-2008 12:19 AM

oh cool thanks much guys, i am already pushing godsgirls and i was looking for more as my traffic is ok with goth and emo sponsors, so will try the rest what was posted in goth threads on gfy. thanks again and wish you best with your sites! :thumbsup

blonda80 11-28-2008 12:33 AM

oh wow ... crazy

3xTom 11-28-2008 06:30 AM

hahaha look at this bump from the middle ages...

tranza 11-28-2008 06:32 AM

Thanks for sharing the info...


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