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dready 11-08-2005 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix
does the national party still have a canditate? lol

They folded ages ago... man I wish they could have held it together. They were the best change for something decent this country has had in decades. :thumbsup for Mel Hurtig.

Raja 11-08-2005 11:04 AM

What's that party that wanted every session in Parliment to start with Yoga?

alexg 11-08-2005 11:16 AM

I'd vote for Wayne Gretzky

BradM 11-08-2005 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Raja
What's that party that wanted every session in Parliment to start with Yoga?

Rhino I believe.
They also wanted to strike down the law of gravity.

BradM 11-08-2005 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by dready
Harper = Fascist pig
Martin = A great finance minister, horrible PM
Layton = Only honest guy in the group, but can he win?

Honest sure, but a socialist. In around 1937-1945 there was this really popular national socialist party in... Germany I think it was. I heard that one turned out alright.

SilentKnight 11-08-2005 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Raja
What's that party that wanted every session in Parliment to start with Yoga?

Yogi Flyers (or somethin'?) - started by the late Doug Henning if I recall.

Magnus 11-08-2005 11:22 AM

I have to vote the lesser of the evils, that be Martin. No way in hell I'd vote for the bible thumpin PC's. Maybe if they had a more business minded leader who kept his pentecostal beliefs out of our lives I'd vote for them to send the Libs a lesson.

How is it the inquiry into the Adscam cost more than we got scammed?? LOL

JohnW 11-08-2005 11:33 AM

Martin.

I can't stand Harper. He bitches and complains far too much. I know it's part of the parlimentary system to get up and yell and scream, and bitch and complain, but this guy takes it way too far and it's just not productive, it's annoying. He comes across as sounding and looking like a sore loser. There is no "positive" with that guy...it's all negative. He offers no solutions, he just complains...

Layton and the NDP...? I hope they have a strong showing if only to keep the Libs in check.

;)

J.

BradM 11-08-2005 11:42 AM

John: Agreed on Harper. I love how he said in an interview one time that he only gets negative media attention, they never focus on the good stuff he does. Yeah, like he was taking advantage of that opportunity to show some light. :1orglaugh

The only reason the Liberals can govern is because they are central to many views Canadians have.

The NDP are FAR too left extreme and the Conservatives are WAY out in right field.

SilentKnight 11-08-2005 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Magnus3X
How is it the inquiry into the Adscam cost more than we got scammed?? LOL

Just goes to show that if you're gonna rip off the taxpayers, make sure you steal enough so that when an inquiry is held, taxpayers will forget how much was stolen and complain more about the inquiry costs :winkwink:

Maybe we should throw another $30 million away on a gun registry inquiry.

As for the election - fuck that. Give the money we'd spend on the election to the RCMP and let them investigate and charge those involved in the adscam.

That'd be money well spent.


SilentKnight

MetaMan 11-08-2005 11:46 AM

the liberals openly steal money and you will vote for them anyway,
it goes as usual, the east takes money from the west so the fishermen and french people can sit around on unemployment for 6 months.

i am voting for harper.

Jay_StandAhead 11-08-2005 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan
the liberals openly steal money and you will vote for them anyway,
it goes as usual, the east takes money from the west so the fishermen and french people can sit around on unemployment for 6 months.

i am voting for harper.

I'm guessing you're for a bigger military and you want Canada to join the war in Iraq? You'd like to lose liberties to and have a "patriot-act" clone in Canada too? Cause that's Harper right there.

BradM 11-08-2005 11:55 AM

Alberta/Manitoba are turning even more Conservative just out of distaste for the libs which is really too bad. The west is going Conservative crazy.

Captain Canada 11-08-2005 11:56 AM

The thread title is wrong - it should be called "Who are the people of Ontario going to make Prime Minister" - and dont hold your breath hoping for a Conservative outcome.

Also regarding the honesty of Layton - the only way people will think of him as honest is if he finally comes out of the large closet he's been living in for the last 40 or so years - and it wouldn't hurt if he dumps that loser of a so called wife he has.

NoCarrier 11-08-2005 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BradM
The west is going Conservative crazy.

http://i.timeinc.net/ew/img/page/columbo.jpg

MetaMan 11-08-2005 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay[neX]
I'm guessing you're for a bigger military and you want Canada to join the war in Iraq? You'd like to lose liberties to and have a "patriot-act" clone in Canada too? Cause that's Harper right there.

no its not, stop creating things up in your head.

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Originally Posted by BradM
Alberta/Manitoba are turning even more Conservative just out of distaste for the libs which is really too bad. The west is going Conservative crazy.

who the fuck else should we vote for? the liberals who openly want more money from us?

the fag french who openly want more money from us?

the loser NDPs who want no one to work and for us to pay for them?

Alberta is united, not like the rest of the country.

you will see 99% conservative voting here.

directfiesta 11-08-2005 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay[neX]
I'm guessing you're for a bigger military and you want Canada to join the war in Iraq? You'd like to lose liberties to and have a "patriot-act" clone in Canada too? Cause that's Harper right there.

Don't guess...

He is that ... aside from a " War" supporter ...

What he forgets is that Ontario/Quebec subsidized his shit hole for decades ... till they found oil ...

Oupsss... he wasn't here at that time, he was in Ukraine....

MetaMan 11-08-2005 12:02 PM

born in winnipeg, i am canadian, get your facts straight.

directfiesta is voting for whatever party will help his relatives remain on welfare.

so thats the liberals/block

do you guys in quebec just flip a coin these days?

NoCarrier 11-08-2005 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta
Oupsss... he wasn't here at that time, he was in Ukraine....

:1orglaugh

And he recently doubled his yearly income with the 400$ check he received (or will receive) from Alberta.

MetaMan 11-08-2005 12:03 PM

here comes the french squad, WHOOOOOOOPY, hopefully all of you have your white flags with you.

id rather have $400 in my pocket then in the hands of some drunk fishermen.

BradM 11-08-2005 12:04 PM

Why would we want Bush's anal buddy in office?

Harper is a Bilderberger: http://www.thunderbay.indymedia.org/...?theme=default

Good guy, yeah. For sure.

NoCarrier 11-08-2005 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan
id rather have $400 in my pocket then in the hands of some drunk fishermen.

It's kinda ironic coming from someone with a serious drinking problem.

:1orglaugh

MetaMan 11-08-2005 12:05 PM

QUEBEC - we are so oppressed


wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

QUEBEC - respect our french heritage

wahhhhhhhhhh


QUEBEC - we need more money from those redneck bastards out west, am i expected to work!?

wahhhhhhhhhh

QUEBEC =

http://cheryl.dewolfe.bc.ca/baby/crying.jpg

MetaMan 11-08-2005 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NoCarrier
It's kinda ironic coming from someone with a serious drinking problem.

:1orglaugh


if drinking once-twice a week is a serious problem then cruisify me.

i can drink, work, make money and still pay taxes.

sounds like some places out east have trouble doing 1 out of the 3.

BradM 11-08-2005 12:06 PM

Hey Meta... you even got their flag colors on that blanket. NICE.

BradM 11-08-2005 12:07 PM

Don't get me wrong Meta, I understand WHY you're voting the way you are along with the rest of the west. I just have different opinions.

NoCarrier 11-08-2005 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan
if drinking once-twice a week is a serious problem then cruisify me.

95% of your posts from the past 2 years = you being completely drunk. And most of the time before noon.

MetaMan 11-08-2005 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM
Hey Meta... you even got their flag colors on that blanket. NICE.


:winkwink:

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Originally Posted by BradM
Don't get me wrong Meta, I understand WHY you're voting the way you are along with the rest of the west. I just have different opinions.


its all good, there is an obvious division in canada that will never change. to bad there were smart french people left who realised by seperating they would have to work/start their own economy.

NoCarrier 11-08-2005 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan
its all good, there is an obvious division in canada that will never change.

Finally, something smart coming from you. It's time to change the relations. This country isn't working anymore.

If I was an Albertan I would vote for Harper. I can't believe idiots will still vote for the Liberals. In another country and democracy, the Liberals would be burned alive. I don't understand why Ontario still believe in them. The "I'd rather vote for criminals" is pure bullshit.

directfiesta 11-08-2005 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan
cruisify

:eek2 :eek2 :female

MetaMan 11-08-2005 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NoCarrier
Finally, something smart coming from you. It's time to change the relations. This country isn't working anymore.

If I was an Albertan I would vote for Harper. I can't believe idiots will still vote for the Liberals. In another country and democracy, the Liberals would be burned alive. I don't understand why Ontario still believe in them. The "I'd rather vote for criminals" is pure bullshit.

nothing will change though, all you can do is go out and vote and say you tried to do your part.

most of these people do not care that the liberals openly stold millions upon millions because they did not work for it.

i will laugh at canada (as usual) when they ARE voted back in.

directfiesta 11-08-2005 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan
:winkwink:

smart french people left who realised by seperating they would have to work/start their own economy.

The ones bussed in to vore for the " NO" .... ???

They were not french, not more than the thousands of immigrants that got their " express citizenship" ....

BTW, if we are so much of a burden, why all this " Please Stay" or " lets spend money in Quebec to promote Canada " shit .... Are you guys masochist ?

MetaMan 11-08-2005 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta
The ones bussed in to vore for the " NO" .... ???

They were not french, not more than the thousands of immigrants that got their " express citizenship" ....

BTW, if we are so much of a burden, why all this " Please Stay" or " lets spend money in Quebec to promote Canada " shit .... Are you guys masochist ?

since when did anyone in the west want to spend money to promote quebec?

i have a question, do the french in ontario agree with the french in quebec on the majority of issues, or is there a division there?

BradM 11-08-2005 12:25 PM

I don't see why the rest of Canada can't vote Quebec out. I am sick of their constant shit. "Special status" this and "Veto" that. You're not going to get it, so leave.

I will give them that 65% of FRENCH Quebecers voted for seperation... so the real ones want to leave. The immigrants want to be Canadian while living in Frenchville.

directfiesta 11-08-2005 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan
since when did anyone in the west want to spend money to promote quebec?

NoCarrier is right : you ARE drunk...

Where did I say " promote Quebec " ....

When you are sober, read the post.

GlydeGirl 11-08-2005 12:27 PM

I'd love to see an end to majority governments altogether -- I MUCH prefer the idea of coalition gov'ts and the STV system. I'm so sick of the pendulum swinging violently from left to right every time a new party gets the "majority" vote -- nothing ever gets done properly! I believe that if the parties were forced to work cooperatively with each other on a long term basis, we'd get much more progress happening in the "middle of the road".

MetaMan 11-08-2005 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta
NoCarrier is right : you ARE drunk...

Where did I say " promote Quebec " ....

When you are sober, read the post.


you are drunk if you think the west was saying "please stay" or if you think that the west in the first place thinks quebec is apart of canada let alone spend money on "promoting canada" in it.

BradM 11-08-2005 12:29 PM

Maura: That's why no one has asked what you believe.
Do you want to see political deadlock for the next 100 years? Coalitions of EXTREME right and EXTREME left views working together? Sorry - you're way off base it will never work.
The only reason Canada has lasted THIS long is because of brokerage politics. Parties simply sit in the middle and avoid major issues. As citizens we accept this because of our major differences and move on.

The Liberals ARE the middle party.

NoCarrier 11-08-2005 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta
The ones bussed in to vore for the " NO" .... ???

They were not french, not more than the thousands of immigrants that got their " express citizenship" ....

BTW, if we are so much of a burden, why all this " Please Stay" or " lets spend money in Quebec to promote Canada " shit .... Are you guys masochist ?

Did you read the book "The Stolen Referendum" ?

http://www.archambault.ca/store/asse...2895491897.jpg

The author of the book is an english canadian sovereignist (one of the few) . He met important people in the "NO" side and they talked and talked about how they didn't give a fuck about referendum laws and money. They didn't know he was a sovereignist, so like a brother, they simply bragged about it. I knew it was stolen, but some of the facts are amazing. The iceberg is much, much bigger.

Jay_StandAhead 11-08-2005 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay[neX
]
I'm guessing you're for a bigger military and you want Canada to join the war in Iraq? You'd like to lose liberties to and have a "patriot-act" clone in Canada too? Cause that's Harper right there.

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Originally Posted by MetaMan
no its not, stop creating things up in your head.

ok, fact 1: Harper was for the war:

CTV.ca News Staff

Opposition leader Stephen Harper has told Fox News in the U.S. that most Canadians outside Quebec support the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, despite our government's decision not to take part in the war.

In an interview with the American TV network, Harper said he endorsed the war and said he was speaking "for the silent majority" of Canadians. Only in Quebec, with its "pacifist tradition," are most people opposed to the war, Harper said.


Fact 2: He was supportive of the "star wars" missile defence system and is for increased military spending

June 1, 2004

OSHAWA - He is smooth. Very, very smooth. Stephen Harper released his party's defence policy yesterday (first in a flurry of policy drops this week) stressing the need to assert our sovereignty with a serious military force, chastizing the Liberals for years of neglect and avoiding any comment that might be construed as bellicose.

Without providing details, Harper suggests he would be more generous with the military than the Martin Liberals -- upgrading equipment on a more ambitious schedule, committing to an 80,000-strong force at some future date -- but nothing he said yesterday suggests he would embark on a radically different course.

Whatever he is saying now, Liberals hope more Canadians will be disturbed by those old quotes than mollified by Harper's more nuanced current approach. Their second line of attack is to insist Harper can't finance an expanded military without deep cuts to other spending -- including health.

It is a plausible argument and Harper is making a tactical error in not producing contrary evidence. (He says there's enough money to cover his priorities -- modest tax cuts, increased military spending -- without reducing spending on health. But if not health, what?) We can assume that culture, the CBC, any sponsorship-like spending will be given short shrift in a Conservative regime, but that magnitude of savings doesn't begin to cover the new military expenditures.



The only un-proven fact is the liberties issues - but if you're smart you'll figure it out. He's aligned with the U.S. and is far to the right


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