10 police officers SHOT in France

[KingK7]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4412316.stm

Damn that shit is just getting worse and worse...

[je_rome]

the French pandemonium has opened

[natas]

shit is getting le crazy

[nofx]

le sigh

another dead cop

[Odin]

Did you hear the news about that politician calling these guys scum!?! How fucking ridiculous is that of him! These are great people!

[Ace-wtf]

it is starting.......

[Toni]

I don't understand that they can't get the situation under control there, I heared about much dead police men in the news and they burned around 2,000 cars the last two nights

[Radik]

holy shit i missed all this.. wtf.

[Basic_man]

10 dead cops ? Ouch..

[reed_4]

any conspiracy about that incident?

[DutchTeenCash]

theyre seriously hurt not dead and they cant control it no, huge area and spreading every day and more n more ppl join, its a mess and one of these days itll get into the center as well, no paris for me for the next few weeks

[flashfreak]

I don't know why on earth Chirac choosed Sarkozy as interior minister. he's a proven racist. Sarkozy has pledged to clean the Paris suburbs of ?scum? and ?riffraf? with a Kärcher (colloquially used as synonymous with a cleaning system using high-pressure water).
You still wonder why this shit is happening now?

[SGS]

Because Chirac is an out of touch out of date twat.

[Wilbo]

So when will the French surrender to the rioters?

[Odin]

Originally Posted by flashfreak

I don't know why on earth Chirac choosed Sarkozy as interior minister. he's a proven racist. Sarkozy has pledged to clean the Paris suburbs of ?scum? and ?riffraf? with a Kärcher (colloquially used as synonymous with a cleaning system using high-pressure water).
You still wonder why this shit is happening now?

Yeah, you're right people who burn schools, cars, churches, handicapped women, shoot at cops, etc are wonderful people, not scum.

Tell me, would you do any of the above? These Arab and African muslims are the racists. They blame everything on Frenchie and identify only with their own.

[chshkt]

Originally Posted by reed_4

any conspiracy about that incident?

November 6, 2005 -- Neo-con/fascist provocateurs behind French riots? As is the case with other European countries where fascist and Islamist fundamentalist forces have joined forces, there is increasing evidence that the riots that have swept France for a week and a half have been far more than spontaneous reactions to the electrocution at a Paris electrical sub-station of two Muslim teens who were escaping police. With an ailing President Jacques Chirac stepping down in 2007, the battle lines have been drawn between two conservative presidential candidates -- Interior Minister Nicolas Sarzoky (nicknamed "Sarko"), a confirmed neo-con in the tradition of fellow travelers in Italy, Britain, Denmark, the Netherlands, Israel, and Spain, and Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin. Sarkozy has inflamed Muslims and other minorities in France by describing ghetto youths in broad pejorative terms such as "riff-raff" and "scum." While Sarkozy has inflamed the situation with his anti-immigrant rhetoric, de Villepin has sought to mollify the situation by not wanting to overreact and create more turmoil.

However, with rioting spreading beyond Paris to the north and south of the country and extending beyond young Muslims to unemployed African, Afro-Caribbean, and white young people, the situation is being used by Sarkozy to blame "Jihadist conspiracists" for coordinating the rioting. Sarkozy has strong links to the Likud Party in Israel and the neo-cons in the Bush administration and the Blair government in London. The neo-con media conglomerates such as Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation and the Hollinger Group are blaming the violence on France's relative tolerance of its large Muslim population. The neo-con media is also playing up reports that French rioters are proclaiming that they are turning Paris into "Baghdad." The always reprehensible neo-con racist Mark Steyn, who pens his vile hate-filled garbage for the Chicago Sun Times and other neo-con rags, writes that the rioting youths are not really French but Arabs taking advantage of Jacques Chirac's "weakness" on Iraq. Funny, but this editor never met too many Arabs from Cayenne, Fort-de-France, Basse-Terre, Abidjan, Antananarivo, Porto Novo, or Brazzaville. Too bad about the neo-cons, geography and history don't seem to be their strong points. Racist talking points, on the other hand, are their stock in trade.



Neo-con game plan? Turning Paris into Baghdad

What is happening in France has all the signs of yet another possible neo-con "false flag" operation in the same category as the Niger fraudulent uranium documents, the provocative actions of Israeli agents in New Jersey who were dressed up as Arabs during the morning of 9-11, unexplained Spanish and British government activities surrounding the train bombings in Madrid and London, and recent deadly bombings in Delhi during Hindu and Muslim holidays attributed to a previously unknown Kashmiri group. The neo-cons have been unhappy about India's Congress government (a government the neo-cons are trying to link to the UN Oil-for-Food scandal), which unlike the previous Hindu nationalist government, is making peace overtures to neighboring Pakistan. As with France, India immediately suspected closely coordinated planning in the bombings and sought to analyze intercepts of thousands of cell phone calls placed in the Indian capital shortly before the bombings.

The French politician who benefits the most from this explosion of violence in a country where Muslim citizens constitute a significant minority is Sarkozy. The losers stand to be de Villepin's faction of the Gaullist RPR party and a newly-resurgent Socialist Party, which rejects the neo-con international agenda. It is not coincidental that the rioting is mainly plaguing cities and towns governed by Socialist and Communist mayors -- leaders who are now caught between addressing the social problems that helped spark the violence and responding to calls for a return to law and order.

The Socialists, Greens, and Communists are charging Sarkozy with inciting greater violence and then failing to respond to it adequately, thus ensuring the rioting would spread beyond mainly Muslim areas in Paris to wealthier Parisian neighborhoods and beyond Paris to Rouen, Lille, Nice, Dijon, Strasbourg, Marseille, Bordeaux, Rennes, Pau, Orleans, and Toulouse. Later, the closely coordinated rioting spread further to Lyon, Roubaix, Avignon, Saint-Dizier, Drancy, Evreux, Nantes, Dunkirk, Montpellier, Valenciennes, Cannes, and Tourcoing.

As in Italy, Britain, Switzerland, and Germany, there are strong links in France between Islamist fundamentalist provocateurs and neo-Nazis. For example, French National Front leader Jean-Marie Le Pen is close to Achmed Huber, formerly of Al Taqwa, a Swiss and Italian financial group linked by the United States Treasury Department to Al Qaeda. Informed sources in Germany and the United States have also linked Huber to the activities of Panamanian dictator Manuel Noriega during the Iran-Contra covert operations conducted by the Reagan-Bush administration. Interestingly, French intelligence and law enforcement are reporting that the riots in France involve international narcotics smugglers.

The possibility that neo-cons and their fascist allies are manipulating the violence in France to their own advantage has the net result of bringing France into the neo-cons' oft-stated goal of a "Clash of Civilizations" between the West and the Muslim world. The likes of Mark Steyn are already insidiously referring to the Frankish-Muslim 732 Battle of Tours between a Moorish army and the forces of Charles Martel. Other neo-con propaganda outlets are echoing the words "Vichy" for the French government. It is all very transparent who is behind instigating the violence now sweeping France.

Reasonable political leaders in France should realize that the riots in France are being used to ratchet up tensions in Europe and distract attention away from recent reports of US secret prison camps and torture centers in Eastern Europe and additional proof that the neo-cons conspired to push the United States into a disastrous war in Iraq. Already, the neo-con media is blaming the violence in France on Islamic terrorists -- a stock phrase for the neo-cons in Washington, London, Jerusalem, Rome, and the French Interior Ministry allies of Sarkozy. However, most of the rioters, mostly from North Africa and Western Africa, are not even practicing Muslims, making the possibility of "Fifth Column" provocateurs being behind the violence all the more likely. French officials are increasingly suggesting that the violence has been closely coordinated and that the primary targets -- trains, police stations, youth centers, banks, libraries, post offices, municipal buildings, schools -- have all been connected to the French government and not to ethnic or religious groups.

Muslim rioting has also spread to Arhus, Denmark and police in predominantly Muslim neighborhoods in Brussels are on full alert. The Danish rioting conveniently broke out as a parliamentary inquiry is due to get underway on the lying by the neo-con influenced government of Anders Fogh Rasmussen on bogus Iraqi WMD intelligence. Neo-con media organs in Europe and North America are suspiciously blaming the Muslim violence on Europe's "welfare state."

The National Security Agency and other signals intelligence agencies that monitor French communications are likely in possession of intercepts that would point to interesting outside interference in coordinating and promoting the French violence and the resultant counter-actions by Sarkozy. It would be interesting to read the transcripts of Sarkozy's recent telephone conversations with his co-ideologists in Washington, London, Brussels, Jerusalem, and Rome. A few years ago, a senior inspector with the French DST (FBI) told this editor that his agency's wiretaps of Richard Perle's home in the south of France had yielded some interesting information, all of which was passed to the FBI in Washington. Perhaps it is time that raw intercepts of international phone calls and e-mail among the neo-cons be leaked in order to hang them using their own past tactics. With their fingerprints beginning to appear on the French rioting, the neo-cons are proving that they will not be put down easily.

Late News -- November 6, 2005 -- Well planned rioting continued for the 11th straight night throughout France. Rioting spread to Dreux, Every, Saint-Etienne, Picardie, Grigny, Draveil, Pierrefitte, and neighborhoods of Paris which had not yet experienced violence. For the first time, French police were fired upon, with several wounded. There were also coordinated calls on the Internet for youths to join in attacks in cities and towns that had not yet seen rioting. There were also fears that the violence would soon spill across the French borders to Germany, Italy, Switzerland, Belgium, Luxembourg, and the mini-states of Andorra and Monaco on the French periphery.

Meanwhile, the global neo-con media could hardly contain their glee over the violence in France.

http://waynemadsenreport.com

[SGx]

I don't know where you guys are getting your informations, but they are mainly wrong.

- 10 policemen were shoot at, right, but no dead, two were injured, the others are fine now
- sarkozy is not racist, the words you are mentionning were told by a woman who was talking to him (she was saying "we are bored with all the scum") so sarkozy replied "miss, you are bored with the scum ? right, we will get them in jail, we will clean the place"

please, again, don't post without double checking informations, looks like a lot of newspapers, tv news and others are spreading shit, like they always do.

[Buzz]

It's nothing about poverty or unmployment.
When one normal man don't have a job, he's trying to get it, not burning cars in the streets and attacknig cops.
Sarkozy is completely right (well even if he did'nt tell that - it's a scum rioting France.
Chirac is to call for army and allow them to shoot.
Once again, it's a scum rioting, not just normal people. Once few of them will be shot, others will just think twice before they burn the next car.

[zx35]

Originally Posted by Buzz

It's nothing about poverty or unmployment.
When one normal man don't have a job, he's trying to get it, not burning cars in the streets and attacknig cops.
Sarkozy is completely right (well even if he did'nt tell that - it's a scum rioting France.
Chirac is to call for army and allow them to shoot.
Once again, it's a scum rioting, not just normal people. Once few of them will be shot, others will just think twice before they burn the next car.

100% right man.
stop making excuses for them. If they act like criminals, treat em like ones.

[Troels]

Originally Posted by flashfreak

You still wonder why this shit is happening now?

No we don't. It's simple. You have too many Muslims.

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by zx35

100% right man.
stop making excuses for them. If they act like criminals, treat em like ones.

There is no such thing as "acting like a criminal", since acting like one actually makes you one. These rioters are criminals, and should be dealt with accordingly.

[KRL]

The difficulty with fighting the extremists is they operate in very small cells and fight guerilla warfare style, without easy to find and hit control and command centers. Without primary targets you can't deploy the standard military tacticts to fight back and the military becomes ineffective like you're seeing happening now.

I see this spreading across the EU in the weeks ahead and becoming an extremely volatile and dangerous situation for the major cities.

[MetroPornTour]

Originally Posted by flashfreak

I don't know why on earth Chirac choosed Sarkozy as interior minister. he's a proven racist. Sarkozy has pledged to clean the Paris suburbs of ?scum? and ?riffraf? with a Kärcher (colloquially used as synonymous with a cleaning system using high-pressure water).
You still wonder why this shit is happening now?

Because you can't find a NON-RACIST in parliment.

Ok, my obligatory disclaimer... I hate violence and I'm not advocating it.

But I can see where they are coming from and why they are doing this. Being ignored for 30 years has finally taken its toll.

It's the citizens, 2nd and 3rd generation born in France citizens.
If they stop and France "gets control" they will just go back to ignoring them and nothing will be done.

[Paul]

Originally Posted by MetroPornTour

Because you can't find a NON-RACIST in parliment.

Ok, my obligatory disclaimer... I hate violence and I'm not advocating it.

But I can see where they are coming from and why they are doing this. Being ignored for 30 years has finally taken its toll.

It's the citizens, 2nd and 3rd generation born in France citizens.
If they stop and France "gets control" they will just go back to ignoring them and nothing will be done.

Soo basically they are angry for being treated like second class citizens ?

Lets be honest folks, violence gets things changed

[spideriux]

ouchhh that sux

[Odin88]

Originally Posted by MetroPornTour

Because you can't find a NON-RACIST in parliment.

Ok, my obligatory disclaimer... I hate violence and I'm not advocating it.

But I can see where they are coming from and why they are doing this. Being ignored for 30 years has finally taken its toll.

It's the citizens, 2nd and 3rd generation born in France citizens.
If they stop and France "gets control" they will just go back to ignoring them and nothing will be done.

Keep saying that. I predict well over 30% for Le Pen in 2007. Who knows, the elections after just may see him in power.

[KingK7]

Originally Posted by MetroPornTour

Because you can't find a NON-RACIST in parliment.

Ok, my obligatory disclaimer... I hate violence and I'm not advocating it.

But I can see where they are coming from and why they are doing this. Being ignored for 30 years has finally taken its toll.

It's the citizens, 2nd and 3rd generation born in France citizens.
If they stop and France "gets control" they will just go back to ignoring them and nothing will be done.

Don't worry, when the day comes, you can share a rope/lightpole with one of these "cultural enrichments".

[stephane76]

Originally Posted by MetroPornTour

Because you can't find a NON-RACIST in parliment.

Ok, my obligatory disclaimer... I hate violence and I'm not advocating it.

But I can see where they are coming from and why they are doing this. Being ignored for 30 years has finally taken its toll.

It's the citizens, 2nd and 3rd generation born in France citizens.
If they stop and France "gets control" they will just go back to ignoring them and nothing will be done.

Tout a fait d'accord. Totally agree.
Was just a matter of time

[zx35]

Originally Posted by MetroPornTour

Because you can't find a NON-RACIST in parliment.

Ok, my obligatory disclaimer... I hate violence and I'm not advocating it.

But I can see where they are coming from and why they are doing this. Being ignored for 30 years has finally taken its toll.

It's the citizens, 2nd and 3rd generation born in France citizens.
If they stop and France "gets control" they will just go back to ignoring them and nothing will be done.

so let me get it straight. You are suggesting, every time i feel lonley and ignored to go out and burn couple of cars and maybe, i dunno, an old lady or some store ? aye ?
k. sweet.

[BRISK]

Originally Posted by SGx

I don't know where you guys are getting your informations, but they are mainly wrong.

- 10 policemen were shoot at, right, but no dead, two were injured, the others are fine now
- sarkozy is not racist, the words you are mentionning were told by a woman who was talking to him (she was saying "we are bored with all the scum") so sarkozy replied "miss, you are bored with the scum ? right, we will get them in jail, we will clean the place"

please, again, don't post without double checking informations, looks like a lot of newspapers, tv news and others are spreading shit, like they always do.

Facts and accurate information have no place on the internet, only half-truths and slander seem to be welcome.

[stephane76]

Originally Posted by zx35

so let me get it straight. You are suggesting, every time i feel lonley and ignored to go out and burn couple of cars and maybe, i dunno, an old lady or some store ? aye ?
k. sweet.

if you try getting a job for 5 years and they won't give it to you because the color of your skin or the address that printed on your ID MAYBE YOU WILL !!

[zx35]

Originally Posted by stephane76

if you try getting a job for 5 years and they won't give it to you because the color of your skin or the address that printed on your ID MAYBE YOU WILL !!

thats utter bullshit.
he cant get a job coz
a) he cant speak the language
b) he has no education
c) he is lazy and aint really tryin
end of story.

[KingK7]

Originally Posted by stephane76

if you try getting a job for 5 years and they won't give it to you because the color of your skin or the address that printed on your ID MAYBE YOU WILL !!

Then maybe you should consider your stay unwelcome, and move down to the desert again to do what you are bred to do: herd sheep.

[stephane76]

thats NOT bullshit.
I lived there for 21 years in a not so good neighborhood.
he cant get a job coz
a) he cant speak the language >> They do , for 90% of them , they were borned and raise there.
b) he has no education >> i wonder why they drop so early? maybe cause they see older ones no getting a job EVEN with a degree.
c) he is lazy and aint really tryin >> they try a lot and are not lazy, after a while u get tired of trying
end of story

[mal]

burn paris burn!!

[AmateurFlix]

Yeah it's everyone else's fault in France that they:
1. Stay in an area where they are unwanted.
2. Stay in an area where they can't find employment.
3. Don't have the foresight to at least get an education and then move to a different area where their prospects are better.
4. Have such a lack of self control that they violently attack others for the reasons mentioned above.

Gee I wonder why they feel like France doesn't want them there

[stephane76]

No one 's fault but obviously the only way to be heard

[nofx]

we dont need no water let the mother fucker burn

burn mother fucker, burn

[KingK7]

Originally Posted by stephane76

No one 's fault but obviously the only way to be heard

[zx35]

Originally Posted by stephane76

No one 's fault but obviously the only way to be heard

well, i cant wait when frenchies will start shootin', coz its obviously the only way to be heard

[Adultnet]

Originally Posted by Basic_man

10 dead cops ? Ouch..

I guess there were not kiled just shot ..

[Adultnet]

Originally Posted by zx35

thats utter bullshit.
he cant get a job coz
a) he cant speak the language
b) he has no education
c) he is lazy and aint really tryin
end of story.

According to the news every thing started since the police killed 2 immigrants and the events are like revenge against the government and the police.

[Dalai lama]

it's also in brussel now

[Webby]

Originally Posted by KingK7

10 police officers SHOT in France

When you get shot, - does this imply you are like Monty Python's parrott? Namely a person deceased? A dead person? Lifeless? Not of this world?

Why is it on GFY that simple statements of fact cannot even be quoted correctly?

If you are quoting the BBC website.. this is their claim:

In Grigny, south of Paris, rioters fired shots at police, injuring 10 police officers, two of them seriously.

Then we got other idiot threads about "Europe burning"...

[pornguy]

I think Bush started the riot.

BUt I bet France asks the UN to come in and help restore peace. Which means that the US will send troops to help the UN.

At this rate, the US will take over the world in about 6 years.

[wedouglas]

Originally Posted by Adultnet

According to the news every thing started since the police killed 2 immigrants and the events are like revenge against the government and the police.

They killed themselves. Don't run from police unless you want trouble. They electrocuted themselves, police didn't push them into it.

They people riot over the deaths of two. Unbelievable. I think France should use extreme force to supress this. If they want to burn down building and shoot at police, they should be ready to face the exact same. I don't care what you are fighting for, if you shoot, it's only fair to be shot back at. If they want to risk innocent lives, they better be ready to put theirs on the line.

I will feel nothing for those who hurt the innocent in order to help their cause.

[stephane76]

Originally Posted by pornguy

I think Bush started the riot.

BUt I bet France asks the UN to come in and help restore peace. Which means that the US will send troops to help the UN.

At this rate, the US will take over the world in about 6 years.

there is no oil in France

[amalekite]

Originally Posted by Adultnet

According to the news every thing started since the police killed 2 immigrants and the events are like revenge against the government and the police.

Police didn't kill anybody

The 2 teenagers ran from an immigration papers check... Police didn't know they had ran and didn't even pursue them... they hid in a power facility and got electrocuted

Muslims and Blacks burn France because of this??? Fucking Savages

[Linkster]

Originally Posted by KRL

I see this spreading across the EU in the weeks ahead and becoming an extremely volatile and dangerous situation for the major cities.

It already is - AP is reporting it has spread into Germany and Belgium over night

[DateDoc]

Originally Posted by pornguy

I think Bush started the riot.

BUt I bet France asks the UN to come in and help restore peace. Which means that the US will send troops to help the UN.

At this rate, the US will take over the world in about 6 years.

I hope we send no troops to France. I'll send them some Freedom Fries though.