Hey Twat.. what do other threads have to do with what I said in this thread.. see, you just fucking prove to me you make what you want out of my post here.. you didnt even fucking read it , did you dumbass.. Did I say anywhere in this thread anything at all about not making any $$ .. No, I did not.. I made a hypothetical scenario, & said. "I can submit to.. blah..blah.. "
Nowhere did I say "I did submit to blah..blah" Get your fucking facts straight pal...

I was merely pointing out the fact that a fucking paid listing does not guarantee any fucking sales.. & stressing that when 250k hits can have the possibility of netting 0 sales after a paid listing, there are many smaller tgps that have potential of netting 1-2 sales per 1000 hits... Of course people are getting sales from big traffic tgps, but look at how much traffic it requires to even get the sales..

I do 1:100 or better with smaller tgps, but that same gallery & sponsors, when submitted to bigger tgps, the ratio fucking drops drastically...

Besides, I really dont fucking care one way or the other..

So why even make the statement "I can submit to blah blah blah" if it has no basis in anything? I can submit to The Hun and get 20 sales or I can submit to The Hun and get zero. So what?

If you can't convert the traffic from sites that would be requiring a payment just to submit, don't pay and don't submit. Just because you can't make money off it, doesn't someone else can't.

You are absolutly right :thumbsup

SpaceDog is an asshole - he has no brain whatsoever
Can someone finaly ban him ?

I'd hate the idea. Leave people the freedom to post FOR FREE. If people scam you with cheating galleries just ban them. Heck, Hun gets what like 4000 submissions a day and he can handle it. So why can't most people with their 500 submissions?

It's a Bullshit !!

:321GFY

what are you all smoking?:stoned

we already pay for the content and the bandwith! why should we pay a fee ALSO?

The TGP's wouldnt be what they are without gallery submitters. I'd like to see the big TGP's update every single day with 50 - 100 fresh galleries if nobody submitted to them. With all the scripts out there that lets you ban code, domains, IP's, e-mail addy's etc it shouldnt be that big of an issue to handle alot of submissions.

Ban the freehosts instead, Im guessing 90% of the cheaters use a free host.

about great amount of poor quality galleries - to be true I love them, with them my good clean galleries looks superb LOL

so guys - please, continue posting shit :)


btw. - could be so kind and write a little smaller posts? I'd really like to read them all but it is very time consuming now



best regards
J.

"I do 1:100 or better with smaller tgps, but that same gallery & sponsors, when submitted to bigger tgps, the ratio fucking drops drastically..."

The above is a quote from Spacedog.

Using an auto submitter, smaller TGP's can provide 5,000-30,000 (or even more) hits per day and Spacedog converts "1:100 or better" so Spacedog may be getting 50-300 signup's per day.

Way to go Spacedog. Congrats.

Im not a tgp'er but this just sounds like anouther rule used to thin out the submits and cheaters.

This has been happing on tgp's forever and it may never stop.

Just from reading this post I see that there are plenty of people who are willing to do it. Good or bad.... who am I to say.

My only thought is what happens when everyone accepts it and starts paying?

Then there would be a need for yet another rule to thin them out again.

It really seems like an endless cycle to me.

But who the fuck am I anyway :eyecrazy

I have to say that like 75% of the galleries are on freehosts and sponsor/stolen content. Really.
That would immediately eliminate those, maybe.
It would also eliminate people with no CC's (Aka. juveniles)
I know a lot of people who started when they were 15-16 (I was), if it wasn't for free content those wouldn't survive.

So ban freehosts. A number of the big guys have done that already.

Don't even wanna read this crap.

So are you basically debating whether people should pay TGP's so that they can give them FREE CONTENT.

I had to pay someone in order to give him free content.
LMAO

Hahaha a funny thread

Nope. You don't have to until Congress passes a law saying you have to pay this fee and submit to these TGP's. It's actually a voluntary choice to pay the TGP's to submit to them.

Well this is another Stupid Topic... Yeah right, Pay tgp's to list your galleries..hahahhahahha

First of all you can already do that with most of the so called bigger tgp's. But who would want to ??? their traffic may be ok and can be converted, but so is any traffic..anyone with even 1/2 a brain would laugh at any tgp who it was manditory to Pay to be listed. ....Get real :1orglaugh

okay go ahead.
Just more money to those that dont pay shit.:)

All big TGP's want to have a UNIQUE look. Do you think they can maintain it by getting submissions only from the same people LOL

Who said I was gonna pay it? I don't submit now and it's free. ;)

If 900 gallery makers are in, and TGPs only list 100-150 galleries per day, then they wont always have the same content...

But the real gallery makers with talent will have the opportunity to get listed on TGPs...without giving their placements to cheaters or other similar people...

Real gallery makers who are talented will get listed anyway. Free or pay.

Actually, shitty webmasters would get listed more easily when they have paid a "submission" fee. Actually I like the idea now ;))

100 :1orglaugh

JJJ

hahaha, that is true!!

You guys can't expect to make webmasters pay a fee and not list their galleries consistently. I'm looking forward to seeing lots of shitty galleries with screaming loud blue text on red backgrounds and made with overused $10 content getting listed.

:thumbsup

Soooooooo True. I wish I would've thought of this. The competition forces people to make their gallery better than the next guy's, but you're right if they pay, they better list it.

Of course, what they would do is exclude those webmaster's from being able to pay to submit, and then they are back to square one, with very few submissions.

Either way you look at it, it's a bad idea.

:)

Pathfinder, smaller TGPs may send 5,000-30,000 hits/day to his gallery, but then he has to get a % of those surfers to click his sponsor links. At a common 1% click thru ratio, he's sending 50-300 hits/day to his sponsor. Converted at 1:100 that would be like 3 sales/day, which is not an outrageous claim.

Anyway, this is not a realistic topic. Why would a TGP owner join some kind of co-op/collective, when the site owner could just sell listings independantly? Why split the pie, when you can have the whole fucking thing?

Hey guys,

Not along the same lines as most of you here, but I have hit up some TGP's for " partner" listings, and in some cases I was never even replied to, some I was asked for a monthly fee (about 100$ a month) to submit galleries, and some guys sent me a link to the submit area and were cool, to those I submit! To the others, eat a dick.

I will admit, the first gallery I EVER submitted got listed and it was on the Hun, the gallery looked like shit and made me 14 sales the first day, seems the nicer my galleries get the harder it is to get listed, with my most recent being this <a href=http://superbooger.com/tgp/galleries/georgia/georgia.html>Sweet Georgia gallery here was </a> declined by Richards Realm because of the "width" .... get this....the page scrolls about an inch and a half to the right on (800 x 600) and centered on higher resolution... and its too wide for your TGP? Ill never surf that site again nor submit to it, LOL which reminds me, I gotta take down my Richard Submit links on my webmaster pages.

I only make nice NO BANNER clean galleries and you tell me the fucker is too wide for your TGP? This was last week. That was the last draw for me, I got something wider for Richard if he likes :winkwink: Just my 2 cents on tgps for the day ;)

So instead of complaining about the Hun not accepting my galleries, or Richard telling me my gallery is too wide, (which still cracks me up) I went and changed all my free pics pics on one of my sites to censored images, and took down 200+ links to galleries with 12+ pics on each I had been building this monster for a year now. :glugglug

Haven't exactly found the way I aim to "sell them on it", but shit SexyKey is Free, and I dont need people who cant afford free surfing my site anymore, so....I took all the links and put them behind <a href=http://www.sexkey.com/webmaster.cfm?id=id115442>SexKey</a> (free AVS), I guess we shall see what happens? :(

By no means am I a big TGP site, but I had LOTS of galleries I have made over the years, and just tons of shit for free, with nothing to lose, I doubt the sales I make will change for the worst, I bet they increase, I KNOW they Will, .... I hope they will .....I actually think censored images may get people clicking around your page more... :thumbsup


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he's right.

One might add, the same gallery was "autodeclined" by the Hun for too aggressive of a sponsor.... :(

i'm sorry,but i feel the need to steal your content

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this is my present to Jenna

its true.

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I'm not too sure either. I think because they dont want their surfers to find out that top listings are paid for...might leave a bad taste in their mouths