Forest

with possibility of parole in 40 years

WTF



Kills 5 kids and gets to live

4Pics

damn, that sucks

Forest

taxpayers now have to pay to keep this bitch alive

Dawgy

prisons are generally not a safe place for child molesters... i wonder if they are any more safe for child murderers? altho i cant imagine she'll be in a prison that is 'tough'... itll probably be a fucking country club.

i think the bitch should die the way her little kids died... drowning... that is a fucking terrible way to die

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Dawgy

I believe she will be in solitary so she is safe from the general population but hey on the bright side so was Jeff Dahlmer and someone got to him

spacedog

They should've fucking exucuted that bitch...

Forest

that may have been to easy for her

Life in prison with Torture and no chance for parole

There is a fit punishment

Gemini

Cheaper to keep her than to execute... Even if it doesn't sound fair.

Dawgy

fuck that, ill drown her for free.

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payrollpete

Forest,

the remarks you are making are pretty snobby.

i mean, obviously the lady went mental, and she killed her kids. however, there are spur of the moment syndromes that can cause this, due to stress, or a ton of other things.

i was watching a 20/20 show about this, and these women were perfectly normal before, and then bam, they just went crazy, and started doing very odd things. there is treatment for these types of diseases, so just "killing" someone instead of giving them life in prison isn't very fair.

sure she commited a crime, went sicoe, and killed her kids, but it takes a mental person to do that! and if your mind isn't all there then...

think if that was your wife, you loved her and lived with her for 20 yrs, and then she suddenly does this and goes insane, would you want your wife to get the death penalty or keep her alive to see what exactly went wrong and try to help her. i personaly would help my wife. it would be a big task getting over the "my wife killed the kids", but i love this person and i would try to help this person. same with the public, we should be helping men and women find these diseases before they take over and go and commit crimes. giving people death by lethal injection is for people who rob stores and shoot up the whole store, or child rapers etc.

smack

fuck that i'll donate the gun and the bullet

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NetRodent

Are you implying that its better to kill a child than to rape one?

Sly_RJ

You stupid ignorant piece of shit. Do you know anything or are you just flapping your gums because you can't find a cock to suck?

Get your facts straight before you say stupid shit. You sound like the idiot that you probably are.

Keeping this bitch alive for life will cost around $250K. Killing her will cost well over a million dollars.

If you want her dead, fine. Just use a different reason next time.

payrollpete

ofcourse its not right either way.

however, when the person has no prior criminal or mental problems, and it was just "spur" of the moment, then it is a different story. she obviously did this out of insanity...

Clay

blah, whatever

Temporarily insane is smacking your kid cuz you were stressed, or swearing at him. To hold your own defenseless kids' heads under water for minutes while theyre struggling for air is inexcusable. She knew exactly what she was doing because she took the time to fill the tub and the time to drown them.

They should wrap her in plastic and light her on fire.

4Pics

and if a man did this, he would get fryed without a problem.

There is no worse crime you can commit then to kill your own flesh and blood.

Hell she even chased down one kid after he tried to escape, and the kids were asking the mom what they did wrong.

Also the jury did not find her insane.

Hooterdog

It costs taxpayers min. $30,000 per year, per prisoner

Paul Markham

It's good to see the Christian forgiveness and Liberal thinking coming through loud and clear here.

Any heretics or witches around? I'll bring the firewood.

Killing her will not deter the next insane person from doing something crazy. Nor will it bring her children back. It will just make us seem as crazy as she is.

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Clay

What are you supposed to do?
Pat her on the head and put her in a stress management program?
She fucking held her defenseless kids underwater for no reason so they could die a painful death.

How can a mother watch her children turn purple and keep going? She's a fucking fruit loop and should get the same punishment she gave her kids.

payrollpete

it's easy to sit behind a computer and give your opinions...

how about if it was your wife...

Forest

If it was My wife I would hope to see her DIE for Killing my children

what was the womans name that killed her kids in the car that she rolled into the lake and lied about it

susan smith?

Babaganoosh

I don't give a flying fuck what her "excuse" for killing 5 kids is. I don't care how crazy she was or what "syndrome" she had. She NEEDS to DIE. She has NO right to continue living.

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Clay

I couldn't love someone that would do that to my children.
That's not a wife that's a baby killer.

Forest

You know its not even the fact that she is still living that gets me

Its the fact that she can GET OUT OF PRISON in 40 years

Her kids NEVER will have that chance

Paul Markham

You even admit she is crazy but still want to kill her. No one in there right mind could have done this, but it does seem to happen more often in the US.

Any ideas why this is?

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Forest

inbreeding

Babaganoosh

I doubt it happens more often in the US. I think the real reason you always hear about it in the US is we have a real media network. We aren't some shithole third world country with a shattered economy. We have news agencies here that pick things up and report them.

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Sjayne

Well, if she was my wife I would have had the snip or worn a condom to stop her from getting pregnant again. Afterall, in this case it wasn't the first time she had post natal depression. The couple was warned after the last child that another pregnancy might send her over the edge. Yet, he had sex with her and got her pregnant. So, I would have tried to help my wife and any future potential kids by taking such responsible actions.

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Danny_C

Forest (and those who agree with him): Read a book.

Paul Markham

Yes we are always having kids go into school and shoot the students a teachers, and as for postal workers well the less said the better.
Our press are so lousy we never get to hear about it. They are completely useless BBC, Reuters, Times always missing things. Thank God you have the National Enquirer otherwise miss so much as well.

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payrollpete

I think having 5 kids would drive anyone crazy :P

Oh well, she got her punishment. Living 40+ yrs with "chance" of parole is alot more painfull then an ez way out via lethal enjection. she has to live with what she did, she is going to be in her cell 23 hrs a day for the next 3 years, with 1 hour of exercise out of her cell. And that is not punishment?

hollywood

My thoughts exactly.

Danny_C

... in other words, there ARE cures for ignorance.

Forest

WOW

Thats you answer to people expressing Their Outrage at a murder who killed the future of 5 children but gets a future of her own and possible freedom someday

I have several books for you to read

corvette

No, let her suffer

Whatever the reason she did it, her children are dead. Get any murderer an attorney and some time and they will think of "reasons"

the end result is that she killed ALL 5 children intentionally

any person who can look at one childs face after the other as the kills them deserves no mercy for the rest of her life. She made a horrible choice and now has to live with the consequences.

What she did didn't just affect the children, it adversly affected her parents, relatives, husband, the nation, and the world

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Danny_C

I've already been through all this on another thread, and I'm not going to go through it again. I have no lack of compassion for the victims, or for Andrea Yates, or for the family.

Go ahead and express your outrage, but remember that speaking out of rage uses produces dumb words.

"taxpayers now have to pay to keep this bitch alive"

WOW. That's your answer to people who actually feel compassion for the people involved rather than just anger at having to front the bill?

eroswebmaster

Wrong!!!! She had thought this out for almost 2 years.
She had planned this, she admitted as much.
She first considered knives but that would be too messy...she finally decided upon drowning and waited until her husband left for work and before her mother-in-law arrived.

IMHO anyone that takes another human life is mentally ill.

It takes a lot to get past that inherent trait in us all that keeps us from taking another life, and she was able to do it.

She was mentally ill, but she was well aware that what she did was wrong and had consequences so that makes her responsible.

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Za Ha

She should be killed publicly to show people that fucked up people have no place in society!

Yates

FATPad

She should never get out.

Even if she was mentally incapable of determining right from wrong, someone who could look 5 of their own children in the face, then drown them will never really be a useful, productive member of society, and she is a danger to anyone around her.

Her husband should be in jail as well. He knew what she was like and he continued to have children with her.

That's our whole country's problem....everyone always has an excuse for what they do and no one is held personally responsible for their own actions anymore.

payrollpete

eroswebmaster,
i think you have heard something wrong. she was never plotting this for 2 years?

url where you read this?

AaronM

DAMN! For a minute there I thought that said "Gates gets life"

eroswebmaster

This was according to either MSNBC or CNN after the verdict was read and all of the discussion regarding why she was not found "guilty by reason of insanity." They were discussing this with the former assistant attorney general for the state of Texas so whichever news station she's consulting for that was the one I saw it on.

This information was based upon testimony regarding statements she made after she was arrested.

She had considered killing her children for over two years and had worked out various methods one being stabbing them to death but decided that was too messy.

Don't blame me...I'm just repeating what was stated on the news.

Regardless whether she considered it for 2 years or 2 days this was not a "spur of the moment" decision...it was something well thought out...something she had been dealing with for a long time.

She thought her children would grow up and die and end up in hell...so she killed them in order to save their souls...once again this was well thought out...she did not come to that conclusion on the spur of the moment.

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payrollpete

odd

i watch cnn daily and watch msn every now and then and never hard this...

msnbc has better vid streams

eroswebmaster

Well this article touches a bit on her "visions," but doesn't exactly come out and say she had plotted this as the aag from Texas stated.
http://www.courttv.com/trials/yates/background.html

But it does mention the fact that she had these visions for quite some time and how she worried about how her kids would turn out...which goes to prove this was not a spur of the moment episode.
This was an illness that went untreated for many years and in my opinion she should be sharing a cell with her husband and any and all doctors and psychiatrists she shared her "visions" with.

http://www.courttv.com/trials/yates/background.html

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payrollpete

lol she's insaine

i heard of this syndrome
its really sad
i watched it on oprah, they had some women with it

it happens after the woman has birth, really odd

Danny_C

Forest: I want to apologize. That came off even ruder than I meant it to. It's not you I have a problem with, it's this topic. I feel strongly that the death penalty should be abolished - not because people who kill 5 children should go on living, but because SO MANY innocent people die in our justice system. And I've already been through statistics and other reasons on another Andrea Yates thread, so it was easier just to say what I did on this one, rather than repeat myself.

Anyway, the point is this: It's disgusting to me how many innocent people are rotting away on death row right now, and yet the death penalty isn't even an issue in politics. This was Nader's entire point when he said the two parties have merged. He was the only person standing against the death penalty. And while I'm trying to educate people on the inherent cruelties and injustices in capital punishment, I come to boards and read shit like this, where people say, "They should publicly kill her to send a message to crazy people that we don't accept crazy people in our society." I just wish people would think, and do a little research, before they spread their ignorance.

http://www.aclu.org/death-penalty/

payrollpete

danny,
thats a good point, never thought of the innocent people they kill.

interesting