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woj · 11-05-2005, 05:23 PM

50...........

pornguy · 11-05-2005, 06:02 PM

Bush is Hitler reborn.

Redrob · 11-05-2005, 06:06 PM

As ex-military, I think torture is wrong and people who commit and enable such actions should be tried as war criminals. Historically, among the military, there was always honor among brothers-in-arms. When the fighting stopped, the prisoners are to be treated with respect, dignity, and have their basic needs cared for. I would vote to bring charges against any torturer or those who give the orders for the torture to occur. I'm with Senator McCain on this one.

Torture is the antithesis of everything the USA supposedly stands for.

dig420 · 11-05-2005, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

Obviously the government supports torture because it works.

When you KNOW someone has information, we have a right to get it out of them if it means protecting national security.

Thanks for your barbaric opinion Saddam, but this is the United States.

youngnat · 11-05-2005, 07:04 PM

Webby · 11-05-2005, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy

Bush is Hitler reborn.

Dunno if Bush even qualifies for that status!

Just a thought... It was Hitler that forecast the US would be the country to adopt the mantle of the "Fourth Reich" in a new rebirth.

BlueDesignStudios · 11-05-2005, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexg

see, with this statement I don't agree.

there CAN be an excuse for torture under very specific circumstances.

Iif a democratic country believed YOU had information of a terrorist attack, would you understand and accept being tortured for the good of democracy?

directfiesta · 11-05-2005, 11:04 PM

Perfect example of Why this is wrong ( today ):

Quote:

3 Bahrainis released from Guantánamo

A senior Bahraini government official said the released men would not stand trial, the Emirates-based Khaleej Times newspaper said.

The three were arrested four years ago by Pakistani authorities and handed over to U.S. forces during the 2001 war in Afghanistan, lawmaker Mohammed Khaled said.

"They were only distributing humanitarian aid among Afghani refugees, but some Pakistanis sold them to U.S. forces claiming that they are al-Qaida members," Khaled said.

Khaled said that there are three other Bahrainis being held at Guantánamo and that the Bahraini Foreign Ministry was negotiating their release.

"Most of the detainees were interrogated, and the three remaining were subjected to severe torture over the past four years," Khaled said.

One of those named by Khaled, Juma'a Mohammed al-Dossary, 32, has allegedly tried twice to commit suicide in Guantánamo.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...9_gitmo05.html

Nice going, DICK .....

After all, " they " hate your freedoms, what you stand for ....

Paul Markham · 11-05-2005, 11:17 PM

Think about what Bin Ladan set out to achieve by 9/11.

Now decide if he has got it.

I think he wanted to make America even more hated by Muslims. Wanted to get noticed. Wanted to increase terrorism. Do you think he got those things?

ModelPerfect · 11-05-2005, 11:33 PM

I don't think any means of saving innocent lives should be *completely* ruled out.

EviLSuperstaR · 11-15-2005, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

Sorry, but I think you mean "torturing a man who YOU BELIEVE MAY HAVE information"

The problem with torture is that you can do serious harm to someone for no good reason what so ever. You'll have someone telling you anything and everything just to make you stop causing them unbearable harm.

In the end, you may end up with no information... and then you have to distinguish between a tough guy who can take it, and an innocent person who just got brutally harmed for nothing.

And no, that's not worth giving up democracy and freedom just to stop one terrorist.

Exactly the US is torturing suspects and people they believe have information. In the end they will say whatever to stop the torture.

dunefield · 11-15-2005, 02:21 AM

hahaha good ol america going backwards rather than forward...

sonofsam · 11-15-2005, 02:23 AM

watch out! there are evil doers eveywhere!

Buzz · 11-15-2005, 04:54 AM

There's no terrorism without reason
Once Bush/Cheney understand that there'll be no terrorism left

Paul Waters · 11-15-2005, 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzz

There's no terrorism without reason
Once Bush/Cheney understand that there'll be no terrorism left

Don't hold your breath.

Cheney is the devil incarnate, who believes that he is justified in exploiting his position.

Bush hears voices in his head, and thinks it is a deity.

Three more years. Plenty of time for everyone on the planet to hate the americans. Including the Brits.

ejeet · 11-15-2005, 05:19 AM

Where's that surfer ronbotx?

alexg · 11-15-2005, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDesignStudios

Iif a democratic country believed YOU had information of a terrorist attack, would you understand and accept being tortured for the good of democracy?

no, this is a stupid example and doesn't qualify for the specific sircumstances i meant.

MetroPornTour · 11-15-2005, 09:55 AM

For the fact this is even a debate tells me how fucked up the world is.
There isn't a damn thing worth saving the human race for.

Paul Waters · 11-15-2005, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetroPornTour

For the fact this is even a debate tells me how fucked up the world is.
There isn't a damn thing worth saving the human race for.

What about pussies and bums?????

directfiesta · 11-15-2005, 06:03 PM

Seems I missed something ...

Last thing was that Iraqis were getting liberated ...

Now, it seems that they are getting abused...

Hard to understand, since the " bad guy" is already in jail ..

Seems abuse is to stay with those guys ...

Iraq Launches Probe into Alleged Prisoner Abuse

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