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Old 11-03-2005, 02:45 PM   #1
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Have You Seen Mind Freak with Criss Angel (magician) on A&E? WILL BLOW YOUR MIND !!!

IF you haven't been watching Magician Criss Angel on A&E you are missing the fuck out. crissangel.com He is the only two-time recipient of the "Magician of the Year" award, Criss Angel melds his original music, surreal characters, daredevil stunts, performance art and, of course, his revolutionary illusions, to provoke an experience that will stir the soul - and that have earned him the moniker "the new Houdini."

HOW THE FUCK DOES HE READ MINDS AND ELEVATE HIMSELF?
DID ANYONE SEE THE WOOD CHIPPER STUNT ?

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I would enjoy his "magic" if he was ANYONE else... unfortunately he appears to be some sort of deformed Goth twink and I can not even stand looking at him for 10 seconds... so I switch it over to Discovery Channel and watch the mating habits of the African Tree Frog instead
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its all fake.
as opposed to what? That's what illusions are unless he is an Alien or God which at this point I haven't ruled out
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I would enjoy his "magic" if he was ANYONE else... unfortunately he appears to be some sort of deformed Goth twink and I can not even stand looking at him for 10 seconds... so I switch it over to Discovery Channel and watch the mating habits of the African Tree Frog instead
Don't let the Marilyn Manson look spoil your fun. This guy is pure Entertainment.
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I watched some of the Halloween special - it was freaky when he turned ashes from a card into a 'stain' on the tabletop - and 'reading peoples minds' trippy stuff - good magicians are hard to find nowadays cos so many people know the 'tricks of the trade'

Good stuff!
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I watched some of the Halloween special - it was freaky when he turned ashes from a card into a 'stain' on the tabletop - and 'reading peoples minds' trippy stuff - good magicians are hard to find nowadays cos so many people know the 'tricks of the trade'

Good stuff!
I know...how the fuck did he do that?
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It's an illusion, using cameras and television. Magic. Tada!
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It's an illusion, using cameras and television. Magic. Tada!
but's it's live in front of tons of skeptical people. You have to see the show to truly appreciate it
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i got bored with it sometime around the stupid ass hanging from hooks under a helicoptor stunt..

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i got bored with it sometime around the stupid ass hanging from hooks under a helicoptor stunt..

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Stupid? That was amazing. That has never been done before.
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i cannot stand the dude, he is terrible imo, nothing a few cameras couldnt do, and the way he tries to make it all "mystikal" is fucking annoying.
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i cannot stand the dude, he is terrible imo, nothing a few cameras couldnt do, and the way he tries to make it all "mystikal" is fucking annoying.
It's alot more then trick cameras bro. Give credit where credit is due. He is the best illusionist of our time
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It's alot more then trick cameras bro. Give credit where credit is due. He is the best illusionist of our time

i personally think he is horrid, i do not have much respect for alot of magicians in this time, everyone else just a copy of someone else, and use of lights and bullshit.

you slap a new face on a product and anyone gets amazed.
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i personally think he is horrid, i do not have much respect for alot of magicians in this time, everyone else just a copy of someone else, and use of lights and bullshit.

you slap a new face on a product and anyone gets amazed.
Well he has done things that have never been done by any magician before.
I guarantee that if you saw the wood chipper stunt you would have been blown away. How much of him have you actually seen?
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Well he has done things that have never been done by any magician before.
I guarantee that if you saw the wood chipper stunt you would have been blown away. How much of him have you actually seen?

i saw about the first 5-6 episodes then stopped watching, i just cannot stand his act,

anyone who tries to act all "mythical" i personally find annoying, dont stand there for 4 min and pretend like you have some kind of "magical force", do the f'in trick already.

i cannot stand him, i actually left one of my buddies house recently because they had "MIND FREAK" on, he imo is seriously that bad, i would rather watch Home & Garden television.
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i saw about the first 5-6 episodes then stopped watching, i just cannot stand his act,

anyone who tries to act all "mythical" i personally find annoying, dont stand there for 4 min and pretend like you have some kind of "magical force", do the f'in trick already.

i cannot stand him, i actually left one of my buddies house recently because they had "MIND FREAK" on, he imo is seriously that bad, i would rather watch Home & Garden television.
So if he didn't act so mysterious you would be impressed with his illusions?
All magicians act mystical and mysterious it's part of the gig. Who does impress you entertainement wise?
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He annoys me with that cocksucker like lisp! Outside of that, his stuffs pretty cool~
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He annoys me with that cocksucker like lisp! Outside of that, his stuffs pretty cool~
LOL, he doesn't talk with a lips but he does sound like Paul Stanely from Kiss
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It's alot more then trick cameras bro. Give credit where credit is due. He is the best illusionist of our time

I totally agree it takes skill. I have seen many at the magic castle and other places and its amzing what they do right in front of your eyes..
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LOL, he doesn't talk with a lips but he does sound like Paul Stanely from Kiss
It's a gray area LOL. Not quite the singer from the Romantic's type lisp, not quite Paul Stanely's deal...it's caused from exsessive cocksucking, I am almost sure of it LOL
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So if he didn't act so mysterious you would be impressed with his illusions?
All magicians act mystical and mysterious it's part of the gig. Who does impress you entertainement wise?

not to sure, magic is a show yes, and when i dont enjoy the show i dont enjoy the magic.

just like if there is a crappy movie with a good actor in it, the movie is still crappy.

i saw copperfield at MGM this year and fully enjoyed his show, he is comical and well timed,

i find CHRIS ANGEL to be slow and boring.
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not to sure, magic is a show yes, and when i dont enjoy the show i dont enjoy the magic.

just like if there is a crappy movie with a good actor in it, the movie is still crappy.

i saw copperfield at MGM this year and fully enjoyed his show, he is comical and well timed,

i find CHRIS ANGEL to be slow and boring.
Dude Copperfield is a million times more cheesy then Chriss angel.
However, they are both really good. What do you think of David Blayne?
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Dude Copperfield is a million times more cheesy then Chriss angel.
However, they are both really good. What do you think of David Blayne?

i like David Blayne also until he started doing those gay "mind over body" type stunts,

how can you possibly more cheesy than a guy who pretends he has "supernatural powers"? unless Chris Angel is now an X-Men?
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i like David Blayne also until he started doing those gay "mind over body" type stunts,

how can you possibly more cheesy than a guy who pretends he has "supernatural powers"? unless Chris Angel is now an X-Men?
Are you suggesting all the peoples minds he reads the minds of are planted in the audience and in on the "trick"? Psychics may exist
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I would enjoy his "magic" if he was ANYONE else... unfortunately he appears to be some sort of deformed Goth twink and I can not even stand looking at him for 10 seconds... so I switch it over to Discovery Channel and watch the mating habits of the African Tree Frog instead
Yeah he just annoys me with all his look at me bullshit. Get a haircut, quit trying to be a rockstar and stop talking in that fake deep voice and he might be watchable.
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Yeah he just annoys me with all his look at me bullshit. Get a haircut, quit trying to be a rockstar and stop talking in that fake deep voice and he might be watchable.
Well he does play music and who cares about his style his magic is Top Notch
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what time does his show come on? I remember he was a guest on some radio show a few weeks back and they were talking about how he leveted a bunch of people in times square or something?
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what time does his show come on? I remember he was a guest on some radio show a few weeks back and they were talking about how he leveted a bunch of people in times square or something?
Yeah, he did do that. It was Awsome. Check out www.crissangel.com for show times. It's on every night
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Well he does play music and who cares about his style his magic is Top Notch
Not if you can't stand to watch him long enough to see any.
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I would enjoy his "magic" if he was ANYONE else... unfortunately he appears to be some sort of deformed Goth twink and I can not even stand looking at him for 10 seconds... so I switch it over to Discovery Channel and watch the mating habits of the African Tree Frog instead


I don't even get his "magic". Most of his stunts take about 10 minutes to figure out and most of the audience ( on the street ) is hired actors. You simply can't do magic on t.v. and be believable. If you look like that guy nobody is ever going to believe you.
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david blaine is the only good t.v. magician , and its not even his magic that makes him good , ( because most of his follows the same logic i.e. camera angles , paid actors ). its his persona, the guy just acts creepy , it freaks you out.
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I'm not sure if it's all true. David Blane does the same tricks.
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I actually just got done watching the Halloween special about an hour ago (I had it recorded). It is pretty amazing how he does what he does. The tree shredder was amaing. You see his hands go inside a second before it enters the shredder, then he pops out inside the back of the truck. It seems impossible.
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mastermind or a new-school magician?

I went to a private party on saturday for the drummer of AC/DC at the magic castle. 2 blocks from my house, its this huge castle-like place with restaurant and tons of rooms for magic shows. Wild. I'd never been there but had only driven by it many times. So I put on my vampire costume complete with fangs and black 17th century jimi hendrix/Napoleon Boneapart coat and walked over.. got my free admission and 2 free drink tix..said OPEN SESAME to the bookcase, and after it slid open, I walked in. TONS OF FUCKIN HOT CHICKS... man I couldn't stop hittin on girls after the champagne... so after the surprise for Chris from AC/DC, in walks Criss Angel and begins to meet people at the party.. he was cool, I introduced myself, Adam Black, pleasure to meet you.. good for you on your recent contract..
guess what? did you know this guy was just give a $100 million dollar contract to perform at the Magic Theater the Wynn casino in vegas is building him???

yeah.

rumor? I haven't seen press on this yet.

damn
like I said, I aint hatin, good for him.

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david blaine is the only good t.v. magician , and its not even his magic that makes him good , ( because most of his follows the same logic i.e. camera angles , paid actors ). its his persona, the guy just acts creepy , it freaks you out.
Street magics aint TV magics. David Blaine does great with his craft with or without these camera tricks you've been talking about.
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First Criss Angel stunt I saw was his street levitation. I immediately saw the 2 wires, which indicates a crane above.. totally TV magic. The stunned onlookers = actors. Still, this is a tv show and the illusion is for the viewers. He's a decent, but very cheezy actor.
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He does not use a crane and wires!!

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Ok, there have been a bunch of threads about Criss Angel and I have decided to finally post my opinion.

I cannot believe the amount of haters, if you do not know anything about magic or are not interested in magic why post BS trashing someone??

I have studied magic for many many years, Books, Videos, live shows, I have meet and talked with a few big magicians, everything short of performing shows myself Criss Angel is one of the best if not the best I have ever seen! The difference with him is he takes alot of older tricks and redefines them and takes them a step beyond anything anyone has ever tried! He is truly amazing!

Here are some tips for the haters and for people interested in magic and Criss Angel:

1. Stop posting things like, "it is a trick he is not real". Magic is ILLUSION, of course there are tricks to it!! He is not a fucking alien!!

2. All his tricks are performed in front of live people, some of the tricks are edited down to fit in the time slot of the show, that does NOT mean he uses camera tricks. (If you have ever seen someone perform a live show, you would know that some tricks have a lot of "Stories" to them to drag them out longer and give the tricks a better effect)

3. He DOES NOT use special cameras or camera tricks to fool TV. yes there are ticks involved, its magic tricks, NOT camera tricks.

4. For all the people who say his tricks are so easy I can figure them out, believe me I am sure you are wrong in what you are thinking. I know alot about magic, which actually ruins it for me sometimes when I am watching because I know alot of what they are doing, but his tricks are executed with such perfection, 90% are almost impossible to figure out. It is not always what you think!!

5. His "Gothic look" and Strange show intros need to be overlooked, who cares what he looks like, it is all stage presence, do you think Ozzy goes around biting heads off of bats?? No it is for shock value and stage performance.

6. All his talk about mind over body, superhuman strength, reading minds, etc.. is because he is trying to bring out a new type of magic, he is not only showing his ability as an Illusionist, but he is also trying to show the world that the mind and body can be used in a way that most people do not understand. the stunts he does like getting electrocuted, hanging from hooks in his back, etc.. those are not tricks. He simply has trained himself on how to overcome pain and make his body do things unimaginably.


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"the new Houdini."


Houdini did not do illusions. He was an escape artist. HUGE difference.
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Ok, there have been a bunch of threads about Criss Angel and I have decided to finally post my opinion.

I cannot believe the amount of haters, if you do not know anything about magic or are not interested in magic why post BS trashing someone??

I have studied magic for many many years, Books, Videos, live shows, I have meet and talked with a few big magicians, everything short of performing shows myself Criss Angel is one of the best if not the best I have ever seen! The difference with him is he takes alot of older tricks and redefines them and takes them a step beyond anything anyone has ever tried! He is truly amazing!

Here are some tips for the haters and for people interested in magic and Criss Angel:

1. Stop posting things like, "it is a trick he is not real". Magic is ILLUSION, of course there are tricks to it!! He is not a fucking alien!!

2. All his tricks are performed in front of live people, some of the tricks are edited down to fit in the time slot of the show, that does NOT mean he uses camera tricks. (If you have ever seen someone perform a live show, you would know that some tricks have a lot of "Stories" to them to drag them out longer and give the tricks a better effect)

3. He DOES NOT use special cameras or camera tricks to fool TV. yes there are ticks involved, its magic tricks, NOT camera tricks.

4. For all the people who say his tricks are so easy I can figure them out, believe me I am sure you are wrong in what you are thinking. I know alot about magic, which actually ruins it for me sometimes when I am watching because I know alot of what they are doing, but his tricks are executed with such perfection, 90% are almost impossible to figure out. It is not always what you think!!

5. His "Gothic look" and Strange show intros need to be overlooked, who cares what he looks like, it is all stage presence, do you think Ozzy goes around biting heads off of bats?? No it is for shock value and stage performance.

6. All his talk about mind over body, superhuman strength, reading minds, etc.. is because he is trying to bring out a new type of magic, he is not only showing his ability as an Illusionist, but he is also trying to show the world that the mind and body can be used in a way that most people do not understand. the stunts he does like getting electrocuted, hanging from hooks in his back, etc.. those are not tricks. He simply has trained himself on how to overcome pain and make his body do things unimaginably.


Nice read, I agree with everything except him being an Alien. He is not of this Earth
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Old 11-03-2005, 08:30 PM   #46
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All magicians and illusionists lose their appeal once you learn how the tricks are done.

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1. Stop posting things like, "it is a trick he is not real". Magic is ILLUSION, of course there are tricks to it!! He is not a fucking alien!!
The point is if you can spot the trick quickly , its not very "magical"
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2. All his tricks are performed in front of live people, some of the tricks are edited down to fit in the time slot of the show, that does NOT mean he uses camera tricks. (If you have ever seen someone perform a live show, you would know that some tricks have a lot of "Stories" to them to drag them out longer and give the tricks a better effect)
Doesnt mean he "doesn't" use camera tricks or fake audience members.
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3. He DOES NOT use special cameras or camera tricks to fool TV. yes there are ticks involved, its magic tricks, NOT camera tricks.
What factual evidence did you use to come to this conclusion ?
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4. For all the people who say his tricks are so easy I can figure them out, believe me I am sure you are wrong in what you are thinking. I know alot about magic, which actually ruins it for me sometimes when I am watching because I know alot of what they are doing, but his tricks are executed with such perfection, 90% are almost impossible to figure out. It is not always what you think!!
That would be assuming your smarter than the person your making assumptions about prob not the smartest way to start


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5. His "Gothic look" and Strange show intros need to be overlooked, who cares what he looks like, it is all stage presence, do you think Ozzy goes around biting heads off of bats?? No it is for shock value and stage performance.
If he is performing for an audience , then his appearance makes all the difference.
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6. All his talk about mind over body, superhuman strength, reading minds, etc.. is because he is trying to bring out a new type of magic, he is not only showing his ability as an Illusionist, but he is also trying to show the world that the mind and body can be used in a way that most people do not understand. the stunts he does like getting electrocuted, hanging from hooks in his back, etc.. those are not tricks. He simply has trained himself on how to overcome pain and make his body do things unimaginably.
Superman talked the same smack , it don't make him any more real.

Talk is talk and thats all it is.. If he has trained himself to overcome pain , he should start boxing.

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its all fake.
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Nice read, I agree with everything except him being an Alien. He is not of this Earth
lol, Yes, some of his tricks are so hard to explain, makes you wonder
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"the new Houdini."


Houdini did not do illusions. He was an escape artist. HUGE difference.
He was both.

Read Houdini's bio - "The Man Who Walked Through Walls" by (1959)William Lindsay Gresham. A large part of his act was illusions.

Many of the tricks Mindfreak does are straight outta that book. The stunt where he swallows the pins and thread and pulls them out all threaded is Houdini's. The woodchipper/coffin was a variation of Houdinis. The helicopter stunt was a spin on Houdini's inverted suspension straitjacket stunts he performed from office towers.

The book describes in minute detail how the coffin stunt is done. Its a forehead slapper once ya' read it.


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