Adult Webmastering a.k.a. Gallery making - GoFuckYourself.com

Webmaster101 · 03-14-2002, 02:32 PM

Saw this comming from day one when I started webmastering over a year ago. TGP is now the standard. There are SO many gallery makers (newbies & pros alike) that it seems you simply need sheer luck or many preferred submitting accounts to make it. Sure, i'll post my extra clean gallery with only two outgoing links and 16 high quality soft pornstar pics and the gallery reviewer says "hey thats a nice gallery, but the gallery after that made by joe newbie webmaster, has 20 hardcore pics and one sponsor link way below his counter...sorry quality tgp submitter, you lose..thx for playing". I'm ready to join the bp family now and remove myself from the rif raf. Thanks!

the Shemp · 03-14-2002, 02:44 PM

There are so many auto submitters , they are flooding the review process. If you have a great gallery, but you are #1800 that i got today, chances are I'm not even going to see that gallery. If your galleries are good, then you should email the TGP webmaster and ask for preferred status.

regards

shemp

Webmaster101 · 03-14-2002, 02:57 PM

Yes, so true shemp. I've begun asking around for preferred status all over the place. The only way for quality TGPs to remain above the rest is to build a nice preferred submitter list...then eventually they won't even need to take regular submissions anymore.

BTW, thx for the preferred status at your site you gave out to me recently, its much appreciated. =)

Bake · 03-14-2002, 03:26 PM

TGp's are getting up to 2k a day in submissions If your like me and only update 50 a day well you just have to delete the rest I allways look for people I know first, so e-mail the tgp reviewer dose help he may look for you and check out your stuff. It seems to get harder everyday to get good listings no mater how good your galleries.

AdultWire · 03-14-2002, 05:25 PM

I'm a brand new tgp and I'm getting 2k+ submissions daily. The computer auto-deletes about 1500 of the for me based on a ruleset that mandatory deletes cheaters and bans certaint things in pages, and then based on a rating system.. which I've really got to get working better.

playa · 03-14-2002, 05:40 PM

i don't thinks it auto submitters that fucking it up but rather these fly by night free hosting sites,,,

especially "bannerless" free hosting,,,, what a joke,,,,can you imagine how many domains were on zfreehost?

at least prior to the free host boom,, webmasters took extra special precaution when using auto submitters,,,

Steve · 03-14-2002, 05:47 PM

auto submit programs aren't bad, UNTIL they are abused by spamming fucks.

How many times do you see 8 copies of the same layout, hell sometimes the same fucking pics? On top of that, you get the shit like a 16 pic gallery, 12 pics are of a blonde teen, the other 4 are of an unrelated niche. Hmmm, guess you didn't divide the content up properly for your template pic count.

And then you get the bullshit, squeaky clean submnits, that magically redirect into pop up hell within 10 hours.

I don't slam freehosts. SmutServer is fine by me, and so are many others. But yeah, I do come across some of them that try to use active x (autobookmark, autodownload - what the fuck are they doing?) they suck, and they never get listed.

LoveAsianChicks · 03-14-2002, 05:49 PM

Too many cheaters out there, looking for a fast buck.
They aren't smart enough to figure out how to make money the honest way.

CHEATERS

Webmaster101 · 03-14-2002, 06:18 PM

In all honesty, what I can see happening (i'm already seeing it on alot of tgps) is going to preferred submitters only. It makes perfect sense too. Less work for the owner and the gallery makers get more stable listing results. Just better get on the bandwagon while there is still room.

TheFLY · 03-14-2002, 06:44 PM

To me it seems pointless for a TGP to accept auto-submits... Post the galleries of your close buds and that's it... If you buds don't have enough galleries to post -- get some more buds (or smarter ones)... Help your friends ;) When I had a TGP -- there were probably 3 guys that provided me with 100 galleries at a time -- between those 3 guys and my other buds there was no need to ever review galleries... I trusted them and they trusted me -- we both made each other money! Either they paid my rent or I paid for their Mercedes -- I made some really good friends that way -- when one of these friends from Germany had a child -- I was the first to know about it on ICQ! He even sent me a 6-pack of Becks through the mail!

I see no need for a TGP webmaster to post any galleries that he didn't make himself! -- Why give away traffic when you can send the surfer off to a link trade and then you get more traffic back... as for bookmarkers -- fuck them -- I spent 3 years catering to the freeloaders -- what do I have to show for it...? Jack shit... do you think those bookmarkers give a fuck about you? Fuck them! If TheHun got lazy one week and decided he got tired of reviewing galleries -- he would have jack shit for traffic... Sites that do trades exclusively can ignore their sites for months and they are still running and making money! The only time you should post a gallery is to your own site(s) when you want to make a sale...

If I was TheHun, I'd pay 5 smart college kids minimum wage to build galleries -- post them to myself and my buds -- take all the profits. All the recip buttons would just go to close friends. Now there is *no* review process ;) Or just post the galleries of your good friends -- maybe they will send you some Becks in the mail too! Building galleries is not rocket science!

Webmaster101 · 03-14-2002, 07:56 PM

Fly, couldn't have said it better myself. Need another bud for your tgp? ;p

icq - 141823362

Kimmykim · 03-14-2002, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY

as for bookmarkers -- fuck them -- I spent 3 years catering to the freeloaders -- what do I have to show for it...? Jack shit... do you think those bookmarkers give a fuck about you? Fuck them! If TheHun got lazy one week and decided he got tired of reviewing galleries -- he would have jack shit for traffic... Sites that do trades exclusively can ignore their sites for months and they are still running and making money! The only time you should post a gallery is to your own site(s) when you want to make a sale...

And with that Pete, you just raised my opinion of you quite a few notches

SykkBoy · 03-14-2002, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steve
auto submit programs aren't bad, UNTIL they are abused by spamming fucks.

I think clueless fucks hurt too...we have an assortment of webmasters who can't even build a single profitable gallery, yet, they'll go buy/use an autosubmitter...same with the AVS generators...if you can't make a profit from one AVS site how are you going to do it with 1000?

automation should come AFTER knowing how to make a profit, not before....

CumSensei · 03-15-2002, 01:36 AM

Well then like Fly I need gallery posting friends then.

I post Oral/facial galleries on cumdojo.com daily and need good people who will submit galleries daily.

Send me some of your work and we can talk

[email protected]

Icq: 20231065

Im tired too to see the same shit over and over again.

And could need a few posting partners..I allready got like 6 of them but they can only post so much.

Nedder · 03-15-2002, 01:42 AM

it's simple, just don't TGP.

Or purchase primo space.

Nz

CumSensei · 03-15-2002, 01:51 AM

Why not do tgp?
I make good money from my tgp.

So why shut it down?

Show me something that makes more money and sure I try it but for now im making good bucks for my 5 minutes every day.

Nedder · 03-15-2002, 02:07 AM

ya im not talking about tgp owners im talking about the whiners who keep saying they can't get a fair shot TGP'ing because their galleries don't get reviewed.

What I've done from Day 1 is use the same domain and same email address every time. I design very clean galleries with no banners other than the recips on top. I have 2 text links going out. I hand submit to a list of 30 of the big boys and autosubmit to the rest. For the last several months I've never had any real problem getting traffic. Do I convert like mad? No way. I just use TGP as part of my overall scheme of things, it isn't the most profitable for me by a longshot, but it still brings in the $$$.

Nz

CumSensei · 03-15-2002, 02:12 AM

Ohh sorry missunderstood ya then

digi · 03-15-2002, 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by the Shemp
There are so many auto submitters , they are flooding the review process. If you have a great gallery, but you are #1800 that i got today, chances are I'm not even going to see that gallery. If your galleries are good, then you should email the TGP webmaster and ask for preferred status.

regards

shemp

actually.. I did e-mail you and a couple of other TGP owners about never getting listed, and I wanted to know what I should change with my galleries. The only one who responded were Pierre from worldsex, so obviousley none of the others cared enough to take the time to help me out..

ThumbsMaster · 03-15-2002, 02:30 AM

we will list every MANUAL submitter . In fact , we will make every GFY members preferred .
Just wait for the big time submission and laugh your way to the banks LOLO

TheFLY · 03-15-2002, 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CumSensei
Why not do tgp?
I make good money from my tgp.

So why shut it down?

Shit I lost your ICQ -- I have a amateur cumshot proggie w/ exclusive content -- nobody has seen it yet ;) -- gimme a shout on ICQ and I'll send you the contact info... ICQ#1622420

CumSensei · 03-15-2002, 02:33 AM

Check!

03-14-2002, 03:26 PM	#4
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03-14-2002, 05:25 PM	#5
AdultWire Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 962	I'm a brand new tgp and I'm getting 2k+ submissions daily. The computer auto-deletes about 1500 of the for me based on a ruleset that mandatory deletes cheaters and bans certaint things in pages, and then based on a rating system.. which I've really got to get working better. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

03-14-2002, 05:49 PM	#8
LoveAsianChicks Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: -CANADA- Posts: 1,464	Too many cheaters out there, looking for a fast buck. They aren't smart enough to figure out how to make money the honest way. CHEATERS Last edited by LoveAsianChicks; 03-14-2002 at 05:59 PM..

03-15-2002, 01:36 AM	#14
CumSensei Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 3,986	Well then like Fly I need gallery posting friends then. I post Oral/facial galleries on cumdojo.com daily and need good people who will submit galleries daily. Send me some of your work and we can talk [email protected] Icq: 20231065 Im tired too to see the same shit over and over again. And could need a few posting partners..I allready got like 6 of them but they can only post so much. __________________ CumSensei say: SEO traffic makes big boom boom.

03-15-2002, 02:30 AM	#20
ThumbsMaster Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Protected TGPS' under constructions Posts: 54	we will list every MANUAL submitter . In fact , we will make every GFY members preferred . Just wait for the big time submission and laugh your way to the banks LOLO __________________ Traffics 'master

03-14-2002, 02:32 PM	#1
Webmaster101 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 113	Adult Webmastering a.k.a. Gallery making Saw this comming from day one when I started webmastering over a year ago. TGP is now the standard. There are SO many gallery makers (newbies & pros alike) that it seems you simply need sheer luck or many preferred submitting accounts to make it. Sure, i'll post my extra clean gallery with only two outgoing links and 16 high quality soft pornstar pics and the gallery reviewer says "hey thats a nice gallery, but the gallery after that made by joe newbie webmaster, has 20 hardcore pics and one sponsor link way below his counter...sorry quality tgp submitter, you lose..thx for playing". I'm ready to join the bp family now and remove myself from the rif raf. Thanks!

03-14-2002, 02:44 PM	#2
the Shemp congrats to the winners Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Echo Beach Posts: 10,891	There are so many auto submitters , they are flooding the review process. If you have a great gallery, but you are #1800 that i got today, chances are I'm not even going to see that gallery. If your galleries are good, then you should email the TGP webmaster and ask for preferred status. regards shemp

03-14-2002, 02:57 PM	#3
Webmaster101 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 113	Yes, so true shemp. I've begun asking around for preferred status all over the place. The only way for quality TGPs to remain above the rest is to build a nice preferred submitter list...then eventually they won't even need to take regular submissions anymore. BTW, thx for the preferred status at your site you gave out to me recently, its much appreciated. =)

03-14-2002, 05:40 PM	#6
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	i don't thinks it auto submitters that fucking it up but rather these fly by night free hosting sites,,, especially "bannerless" free hosting,,,, what a joke,,,,can you imagine how many domains were on zfreehost? at least prior to the free host boom,, webmasters took extra special precaution when using auto submitters,,,

03-14-2002, 05:47 PM	#7
Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,894	auto submit programs aren't bad, UNTIL they are abused by spamming fucks. How many times do you see 8 copies of the same layout, hell sometimes the same fucking pics? On top of that, you get the shit like a 16 pic gallery, 12 pics are of a blonde teen, the other 4 are of an unrelated niche. Hmmm, guess you didn't divide the content up properly for your template pic count. And then you get the bullshit, squeaky clean submnits, that magically redirect into pop up hell within 10 hours. I don't slam freehosts. SmutServer is fine by me, and so are many others. But yeah, I do come across some of them that try to use active x (autobookmark, autodownload - what the fuck are they doing?) they suck, and they never get listed.

03-14-2002, 06:18 PM	#9
Webmaster101 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 113	In all honesty, what I can see happening (i'm already seeing it on alot of tgps) is going to preferred submitters only. It makes perfect sense too. Less work for the owner and the gallery makers get more stable listing results. Just better get on the bandwagon while there is still room.

03-14-2002, 06:44 PM	#10
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	To me it seems pointless for a TGP to accept auto-submits... Post the galleries of your close buds and that's it... If you buds don't have enough galleries to post -- get some more buds (or smarter ones)... Help your friends ;) When I had a TGP -- there were probably 3 guys that provided me with 100 galleries at a time -- between those 3 guys and my other buds there was no need to ever review galleries... I trusted them and they trusted me -- we both made each other money! Either they paid my rent or I paid for their Mercedes -- I made some really good friends that way -- when one of these friends from Germany had a child -- I was the first to know about it on ICQ! He even sent me a 6-pack of Becks through the mail! I see no need for a TGP webmaster to post any galleries that he didn't make himself! -- Why give away traffic when you can send the surfer off to a link trade and then you get more traffic back... as for bookmarkers -- fuck them -- I spent 3 years catering to the freeloaders -- what do I have to show for it...? Jack shit... do you think those bookmarkers give a fuck about you? Fuck them! If TheHun got lazy one week and decided he got tired of reviewing galleries -- he would have jack shit for traffic... Sites that do trades exclusively can ignore their sites for months and they are still running and making money! The only time you should post a gallery is to your own site(s) when you want to make a sale... If I was TheHun, I'd pay 5 smart college kids minimum wage to build galleries -- post them to myself and my buds -- take all the profits. All the recip buttons would just go to close friends. Now there is no review process ;) Or just post the galleries of your good friends -- maybe they will send you some Becks in the mail too! Building galleries is not rocket science!

03-14-2002, 07:56 PM	#11
Webmaster101 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 113	Fly, couldn't have said it better myself. Need another bud for your tgp? ;p icq - 141823362

03-15-2002, 01:42 AM	#15
Nedder Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 555	it's simple, just don't TGP. Or purchase primo space. Nz

03-15-2002, 01:51 AM	#16
CumSensei Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 3,986	Why not do tgp? I make good money from my tgp. So why shut it down? Show me something that makes more money and sure I try it but for now im making good bucks for my 5 minutes every day. __________________ CumSensei say: SEO traffic makes big boom boom.

03-15-2002, 02:07 AM	#17
Nedder Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 555	ya im not talking about tgp owners im talking about the whiners who keep saying they can't get a fair shot TGP'ing because their galleries don't get reviewed. What I've done from Day 1 is use the same domain and same email address every time. I design very clean galleries with no banners other than the recips on top. I have 2 text links going out. I hand submit to a list of 30 of the big boys and autosubmit to the rest. For the last several months I've never had any real problem getting traffic. Do I convert like mad? No way. I just use TGP as part of my overall scheme of things, it isn't the most profitable for me by a longshot, but it still brings in the $$$. Nz

03-15-2002, 02:12 AM	#18
CumSensei Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 3,986	Ohh sorry missunderstood ya then __________________ CumSensei say: SEO traffic makes big boom boom.

03-15-2002, 02:33 AM	#22
CumSensei Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 3,986	Check! __________________ CumSensei say: SEO traffic makes big boom boom.