Do private amateur sites' partnership work? - GoFuckYourself.com

SexyMarie · 03-11-2002, 10:21 AM

Hi there,

I'm new to this board so please

)))

I've been running my site www.sexymarie.com for over a year and a half now and I have a question concerning 'amateur site partnership programs'.

I started mine a couple of months ago and altough many webmasters subscribed to it they don't send much traffic. So I guess the reasons can be:

- there are much better partnership programs outthere (so why they bothered signing up at all)
- they were disappointed with the signup ratio (I don' t think so as they didn' t seem to send much traffic at all)
- those were the guys hoping to get some free promotional stuff
- can be anything else?

Could you help me with the answer? Should I work on it or just leave it and concentrate on my own traffic?

And one more thing... which of the tours I should use for partnership program?

At the moment I have the following:
1. http://www.sexymarie.com/
2. http://www.sexymarie.com/index_new.htm
3. http://www.sexymarie.com/news.shtm
4. http://www.sexymarie.com/dial_tour_1.htm
I've been playing for them for a while but still NONE of them works significantly better than the other...

sorry for the long post
thanks,

Marie

Pipecrew · 03-11-2002, 10:38 AM

I have been on the internet way too long and I couldnt even figure out where to click on your page to continue the tour or where to join.... that might be your first major problem, everything is too scattered and you even have a forced exit console with the OK button.... like really, treat surfers with respect.... that shit only works on free sites, not pay sites

greentea · 03-11-2002, 10:41 AM

Word of advice, partner programs are dead...

Unless you can keep members at your site for 4+ months
start paying per member or join, then more webmasters will use your proggy...

Ypur page has to way to much text, i got lost in it..

Also why charge 13 a month? I gather you really dont much content at all..

Post a password here, lets us take a look inside..

SykkBoy · 03-11-2002, 02:58 PM

yup, most webmasters are only sending their traffic to pay per signup prigrams because they just like looking at what appears to be a higher payout...

even with a pay per signup program, you still want a shitload of your own traffic...or learn how to shave ;)))

just concentrate on keeping your members for a long time by keeping a well maintained and constantly updated member's area...fuck webmasters, just work with your own traffic ;)))

TheJimmy · 03-11-2002, 03:01 PM

"fuck webmasters, just work with your own traffic ;)))"

or a variation of that could be

"fuck webmasters, after you get more to fuck"

seems to work for some...

Snake Doctor · 03-11-2002, 03:17 PM

Well Marie the problem with your site is the same as most single amateur paysites. You've got enough traffic leaks on your front page to qualify as a submarine.

I'm not going to send you my hard earned traffic so that when they get to your front door you can bounce them off somewhere else to improve your ranking on a toplist.

If you want webmasters to send you traffic make a tour that has ZERO traffic leaks on it, maybe pop a console after they leave your site completely, but not until then.

Save the traffic trades for your own traffic. Have the webmasters traffic going to a page designed for one thing and one thing alone, to SELL MEMBERSHIPS

SykkBoy · 03-11-2002, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheJimmy
"fuck webmasters, just work with your own traffic ;)))"

or a variation of that could be

"fuck webmasters, after you get more to fuck"

seems to work for some...

hahahah very true ;)

I meant it figuratively...but now that you mention it... ;))))

playa · 03-11-2002, 03:21 PM

no one will push a partnership with only 7 sale,,,

raise that shit to 29.99 thats more like it

Jakke PNG · 03-11-2002, 03:48 PM

Get a pro to design the site for you.

Or if you want to keep the amateurish look, get rid of the traffic-leaks (as mentioned above).

Rise the price too.

allreal · 03-11-2002, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lenny2
Well Marie the problem with your site is the same as most single amateur paysites. You've got enough traffic leaks on your front page to qualify as a submarine.

I can't agree with you more on this. I have been established in the "amateur" market for 3 years now and have found that this is the biggest problem amongst amateur webmasters.

It is so simple to create mirror tours. Use one for your referral program traffic, one for your self-generated traffic and one for traffic trades.

Check out my site and you will see

http://www.allrealgirls.com/tour (self-generated traffic has an exit console to a referral program)

http://www.allrealgirls.com/tour2 (pops a friends page and all friends page traffiic is filtred thru this tour)

http://www.allrealgirls.com/tour3 (for my partners to send traffic to. no consoles)

Also another thing I have seen with amateur sites is that they will offer multiple billing options on a tour (eg. ccbill for checks/cc and ibill for 900 and as a backup cc processor) when the referring webmaster can only get paid on one of them. This sucks big time cause you might acutally have a chance of making a sale but the user decides for whatever reason to use the backup processor and I lose the sale.

I have a site that does promote amateur partner programs most of the tours are clean. The few that aren't are personal friends so I let them slide a little on some of my normal requirements.

In my opinion a good solo girl site can convert very well given that the content is exclusive and the sites have personality that is lacking in mulit-girl sites. I have done very well with many of them in the past and continue to today.

J.R. · 03-11-2002, 05:19 PM

Amateur Niche sites are the real
money makers these days.

The days of Glamour Mega Sites are on
the rapid decline.

Amateur sites that focus on 1 girl
are the biggest loosers in the money
making game, unless your a person in
the magazines or tv.

My 3 cents..

Living For Today · 03-11-2002, 05:29 PM

You really need to clean up that design. Very messy.

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Mikey · 03-14-2002, 12:19 AM

You should create a clean tour for partners to send their traffic to. No one wants to send their traffic to a site that has traffic leaks that they won't get credit for. You can keep your tour for non-partners complete with links out, but for partners clean it up.

Also, the thing about single girl amateur sites that makes them unique is the girl, so you shold be generous with allowing webmasters to use your content for galleries, free sites, and avs sites. These images don't have to be yor top notch stuff found in your members area, it could be stuff that you didn't think you had a use for inside your site, or whatever. it makes it easier to sell your site when the webmaster uses you in the promotion. No one can really promote a particular girl site using a different girl's picture's.

You should also be more creative in the banner ads. Have a bigger variety in different sizes and shapes.

You should email your webmsaters who have signed up and ask them what they need to promote your site more. many won't respond, but maybe a few will and then bend over backwards to help make sure those few have everything they need to promote your site. If you get about 10 webmasters sending your 2-5 signups a day you will do well.

nemesis · 03-14-2002, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pipecrew
I have been on the internet way too long and I couldnt even figure out where to click on your page to continue the tour or where to join.... that might be your first major problem, everything is too scattered and you even have a forced exit console with the OK button.... like really, treat surfers with respect.... that shit only works on free sites, not pay sites

very true, I got lost too... To actually get to your sign up page, i had to clicked 9 times(from the main page to your cc page) Nobody would do that...

Terenzo · 03-14-2002, 02:08 AM

some webmasters still think a click to a toplist weights more than a click to the own join page. this is good - so the surfers will signup on my sites ;)

Krome · 03-14-2002, 04:24 AM

I maybe stoned but the sign up now link goes to some top rank script....errr...in my opinion you should have a link..in big text or graphic going to the join page on every page.

LoveAsianChicks · 03-14-2002, 04:35 AM

I like the page. Amateur sites can have huge member retention because the guys really like the chick. The low cost makes it less likely they cancel and you get tons of rebills.

Amateur sites only work if there is alot of interaction between the amateur star & the members.

If I had an amateur site I would try sending traffic to some page like that.

03-11-2002, 10:21 AM	#1
SexyMarie Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 52	Do private amateur sites' partnership work? Hi there, I'm new to this board so please ))) I've been running my site www.sexymarie.com for over a year and a half now and I have a question concerning 'amateur site partnership programs'. I started mine a couple of months ago and altough many webmasters subscribed to it they don't send much traffic. So I guess the reasons can be: - there are much better partnership programs outthere (so why they bothered signing up at all) - they were disappointed with the signup ratio (I don' t think so as they didn' t seem to send much traffic at all) - those were the guys hoping to get some free promotional stuff - can be anything else? Could you help me with the answer? Should I work on it or just leave it and concentrate on my own traffic? And one more thing... which of the tours I should use for partnership program? At the moment I have the following: 1. http://www.sexymarie.com/ 2. http://www.sexymarie.com/index_new.htm 3. http://www.sexymarie.com/news.shtm 4. http://www.sexymarie.com/dial_tour_1.htm I've been playing for them for a while but still NONE of them works significantly better than the other... sorry for the long post thanks, Marie __________________ Try me - real amateur program, real girl = real money

03-11-2002, 02:58 PM	#4
SykkBoy Jesus loves bacon Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Sin City, Motherfucker Posts: 19,969	yup, most webmasters are only sending their traffic to pay per signup prigrams because they just like looking at what appears to be a higher payout... even with a pay per signup program, you still want a shitload of your own traffic...or learn how to shave ;))) just concentrate on keeping your members for a long time by keeping a well maintained and constantly updated member's area...fuck webmasters, just work with your own traffic ;))) __________________ Support my new movie “The Second Coming”

03-11-2002, 03:01 PM	#5
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03-11-2002, 03:17 PM	#6
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	Well Marie the problem with your site is the same as most single amateur paysites. You've got enough traffic leaks on your front page to qualify as a submarine. I'm not going to send you my hard earned traffic so that when they get to your front door you can bounce them off somewhere else to improve your ranking on a toplist. If you want webmasters to send you traffic make a tour that has ZERO traffic leaks on it, maybe pop a console after they leave your site completely, but not until then. Save the traffic trades for your own traffic. Have the webmasters traffic going to a page designed for one thing and one thing alone, to SELL MEMBERSHIPS __________________ sig too big

03-11-2002, 03:48 PM	#9
Jakke PNG ex-TeenGodFather Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suomi Finland Perkele Posts: 20,306	Get a pro to design the site for you. Or if you want to keep the amateurish look, get rid of the traffic-leaks (as mentioned above). Rise the price too. __________________ ..and I'm off.

03-11-2002, 10:38 AM	#2
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	I have been on the internet way too long and I couldnt even figure out where to click on your page to continue the tour or where to join.... that might be your first major problem, everything is too scattered and you even have a forced exit console with the OK button.... like really, treat surfers with respect.... that shit only works on free sites, not pay sites

03-11-2002, 10:41 AM	#3
greentea Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Florida Posts: 6,580	Word of advice, partner programs are dead... Unless you can keep members at your site for 4+ months start paying per member or join, then more webmasters will use your proggy... Ypur page has to way to much text, i got lost in it.. Also why charge 13 a month? I gather you really dont much content at all.. Post a password here, lets us take a look inside..

03-11-2002, 03:21 PM	#8
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	no one will push a partnership with only 7 sale,,, raise that shit to 29.99 thats more like it

03-11-2002, 05:19 PM	#11
J.R. WantBoobs.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Calif & Washington Posts: 3,474	Amateur Niche sites are the real money makers these days. The days of Glamour Mega Sites are on the rapid decline. Amateur sites that focus on 1 girl are the biggest loosers in the money making game, unless your a person in the magazines or tv. My 3 cents..

03-11-2002, 05:29 PM	#12
Living For Today Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3,970	You really need to clean up that design. Very messy.

03-11-2002, 05:37 PM	#13
TaDoW Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Where It Rains Posts: 3,875	Our program seems to work =) www.dormangels.com is the site www.dormangels.com/angelcash/ is the place to sign up =) email or icq me if you have any questions [email protected] 95967590 __________________ -TaDoW I've Upped My Standards, Up Yours!

03-11-2002, 06:38 PM	#14
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03-14-2002, 12:19 AM	#15
Mikey Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 665	You should create a clean tour for partners to send their traffic to. No one wants to send their traffic to a site that has traffic leaks that they won't get credit for. You can keep your tour for non-partners complete with links out, but for partners clean it up. Also, the thing about single girl amateur sites that makes them unique is the girl, so you shold be generous with allowing webmasters to use your content for galleries, free sites, and avs sites. These images don't have to be yor top notch stuff found in your members area, it could be stuff that you didn't think you had a use for inside your site, or whatever. it makes it easier to sell your site when the webmaster uses you in the promotion. No one can really promote a particular girl site using a different girl's picture's. You should also be more creative in the banner ads. Have a bigger variety in different sizes and shapes. You should email your webmsaters who have signed up and ask them what they need to promote your site more. many won't respond, but maybe a few will and then bend over backwards to help make sure those few have everything they need to promote your site. If you get about 10 webmasters sending your 2-5 signups a day you will do well.

03-14-2002, 02:08 AM	#17
Terenzo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 971	some webmasters still think a click to a toplist weights more than a click to the own join page. this is good - so the surfers will signup on my sites ;) __________________ Signature Spot - USD 5000 / month

03-14-2002, 04:24 AM	#18
Krome Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London - UK Posts: 2,851	I maybe stoned but the sign up now link goes to some top rank script....errr...in my opinion you should have a link..in big text or graphic going to the join page on every page.

03-14-2002, 04:35 AM	#19
LoveAsianChicks Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: -CANADA- Posts: 1,464	I like the page. Amateur sites can have huge member retention because the guys really like the chick. The low cost makes it less likely they cancel and you get tons of rebills. Amateur sites only work if there is alot of interaction between the amateur star & the members. If I had an amateur site I would try sending traffic to some page like that.