Will DRM become the norm? - GoFuckYourself.com

VirtuozzoSimon · 11-16-2005, 01:36 PM

Hi All,

Do you guys think incorporating DRM into *all* downloadable WMV files at pay sites become the norm?

My opinion:

It's good because:

-anonymous p2p spreading of files is made more difficult

It's not good because:

-downloaded files can "expire" when you cancel your membership

Certainly, there are other video formats which don't have DRM mechanisms to be built in...but wmv seems to be the most popular.

Methodcash Rick · 11-16-2005, 01:41 PM

Short answer... No

FreeHugeMovies · 11-16-2005, 02:26 PM

No0000000000

Maxy · 11-16-2005, 02:27 PM

Can you guys elaborate why not?

Steve · 11-16-2005, 02:27 PM

nope
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Steve · 11-16-2005, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxy

Can you guys elaborate why not?

surfers (the customer) hate it - customer is always right

Sosa · 11-16-2005, 02:30 PM

I doubt it.

SpeakEasy · 11-16-2005, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BB-Rick

Short answer... No

Agreed ...

XPays · 11-16-2005, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VirtuozzoSimon

It's not good because:

-downloaded files can "expire" when you cancel your membership

wouldn't that help retention when the consumer is itching to see that scene in the file the consumer has on his/her hard-drive? all they have to do is renew again and walla the file plays....

Roald · 11-16-2005, 02:31 PM

To much troubles with customers, so no (not yet)

ejeet · 11-16-2005, 02:32 PM

The Microsoft implementation for DRM so far has been bad and inconsistent hence causing problems for surfers who inturn bitch to the paysite owners.

Sexzity · 11-16-2005, 02:32 PM

There is a way to get around the DRM.
Maby the next big shareware are going to be a media player, that goes around the DRM.

Roald · 11-16-2005, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays

wouldn't that help retention when the consumer is itching to see that scene in the file the consumer has on his/her hard-drive? all they have to do is renew again and walla the file plays....

personally I would never join a site (or stay a member) if they have DRM on thier files. I like to download movies and check them out later without having to pay for it again. But thats just my opinion.

ejeet · 11-16-2005, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays

wouldn't that help retention when the consumer is itching to see that scene in the file the consumer has on his/her hard-drive? all they have to do is renew again and walla the file plays....

Very unfair. Just give them unlimited license lifetime and unlimited video plays for each file. The user can backup his licenses and restore them if he/she formats.

XPays · 11-16-2005, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuaShe

personally I would never join a site (or stay a member) if they have DRM on thier files. I like to download movies and check them out later without having to pay for it again. But thats just my opinion.

that must be why our members go kookoo for itsyourporn downloads in our member's areas

Roald · 11-16-2005, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays

that must be why our members go kookoo for itsyourporn downloads in our member's areas

like I said thats my opinion. If someone would charge me 30$ for drm encoded movies I would feel fucked in the ass ;))

XPays · 11-16-2005, 02:42 PM

we have surplus drm domains - including:

DRMBILL.COM and .net
DRMBILLING.COM and .net

plus more if anyone is interested fyi

VirtuozzoSimon · 11-16-2005, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuaShe

like I said thats my opinion. If someone would charge me 30$ for drm encoded movies I would feel fucked in the ass ;))

ie Videosz for *most* vids

Maybe off-topic, but also a bit annoying is allowing only streaming (TCG)

TheDoc · 11-16-2005, 02:54 PM

If MS corrects WMP and DRM then it could one day take off.

Pornwolf · 11-16-2005, 03:25 PM

A few big programs only allow streaming.

Hmm... Does Ox use DRM?

We had these DRM conversation before a year ago. DRM was the big buzz. That buzz is gone.

Methodcash Rick · 11-16-2005, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays

wouldn't that help retention when the consumer is itching to see that scene in the file the consumer has on his/her hard-drive? all they have to do is renew again and walla the file plays....

If you look at it another way, it could also help create chargebacks..

While you and I both know that with DRM they members are technically "renting" the movie, no matter how much fine print you put in the join page, in the members area, and anywhere else, if the movies they downloaded stop working when their membership expires, they have 6 months to get pissed about it, and chargeback...

Just playing devils advocate here..

XPays · 11-16-2005, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BB-Rick

If you look at it another way, it could also help create chargebacks..

While you and I both know that with DRM they members are technically "renting" the movie, no matter how much fine print you put in the join page, in the members area, and anywhere else, if the movies they downloaded stop working when their membership expires, they have 6 months to get pissed about it, and chargeback...

Just playing devils advocate here..

i sort of was playing devil's advocate too and we don't use drm inside the member's area at all these days actually. btw we captured sxbb.com today is you are interested

ejeet · 11-16-2005, 03:41 PM

Haha I love XPays spam hidden in every message

Tat2Jr · 11-16-2005, 03:59 PM

DRM makes baby jesus cry.

jay23 · 11-16-2005, 04:22 PM

If any one wants DRM software, you guys know who to call :-)

www.objectcube.com

Jay

DEisenbacher · 01-05-2006, 11:55 AM

After reading all 20+ replies to the idea of DRM going to be the "NORM" the answer is yes. DRM helps in client retention, true ownership and most important Profits.

All the large companies do it for these reasons and others and with the price of DRM and the ease to integrate it the SMB and one man shops can add it to there site as well.

The once who believe in DRM being bad well you can not please everyone and there will always be that group. But as for the Norm yes DRM will be the norm and look around you will see it more then you think.

EZDRM.com

11-16-2005, 01:36 PM	#1
VirtuozzoSimon Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 110	Will DRM become the norm? Hi All, Do you guys think incorporating DRM into all downloadable WMV files at pay sites become the norm? My opinion: It's good because: -anonymous p2p spreading of files is made more difficult It's not good because: -downloaded files can "expire" when you cancel your membership Certainly, there are other video formats which don't have DRM mechanisms to be built in...but wmv seems to be the most popular.

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TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	If MS corrects WMP and DRM then it could one day take off. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

11-16-2005, 01:41 PM	#2
Methodcash Rick Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,720	Short answer... No

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FreeHugeMovies Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 14,137	No0000000000

11-16-2005, 02:27 PM	#5
Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,894	nope 123456

11-16-2005, 02:30 PM	#7
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	I doubt it.

11-16-2005, 02:32 PM	#11
ejeet Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 258	The Microsoft implementation for DRM so far has been bad and inconsistent hence causing problems for surfers who inturn bitch to the paysite owners.

11-16-2005, 02:32 PM	#12
Sexzity Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Cyperspaces! Posts: 1,329	There is a way to get around the DRM. Maby the next big shareware are going to be a media player, that goes around the DRM.

11-16-2005, 03:25 PM	#20
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	A few big programs only allow streaming. Hmm... Does Ox use DRM? We had these DRM conversation before a year ago. DRM was the big buzz. That buzz is gone. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

11-16-2005, 03:41 PM	#23
ejeet Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 258	Haha I love XPays spam hidden in every message

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11-16-2005, 04:22 PM	#25
jay23 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,444	If any one wants DRM software, you guys know who to call :-) www.objectcube.com Jay

01-05-2006, 11:55 AM	#26
DEisenbacher Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 4	DRM is the smart way to go After reading all 20+ replies to the idea of DRM going to be the "NORM" the answer is yes. DRM helps in client retention, true ownership and most important Profits. All the large companies do it for these reasons and others and with the price of DRM and the ease to integrate it the SMB and one man shops can add it to there site as well. The once who believe in DRM being bad well you can not please everyone and there will always be that group. But as for the Norm yes DRM will be the norm and look around you will see it more then you think. EZDRM.com