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clickclickclick · 10-30-2005, 11:31 AM

i know its "just business". but if someone with a loud mouth told you everything you needed to make alot of cash, would it be wrong to take his idea and do it?

no nda or anything moral to prevent you from doing this. he would get a smaller cut of the pie now that he told me everything (since more ppl + same pie = smaller pieces)

thoughts?

detoxed · 10-30-2005, 11:34 AM

well.. some people would kill you for it

Paul Waters · 10-30-2005, 11:36 AM

If it is not you, it will be someone else.

Zebra · 10-30-2005, 11:36 AM

You would be amazed at how often it happens in this industry. Many programs were built on the ideas of another.

HorseShit · 10-30-2005, 11:37 AM

what idea are you talking about? it depends on the situation

Redrob · 10-30-2005, 11:40 AM

If you are going to discuss a project with someone, I'd have them sign a Confidentiality/Non-disclosure Agreement first.

Pipecrew · 10-30-2005, 11:40 AM

I am sure he will be thrilled, You remember that when you end up in a ditch somewhere.

~Ray · 10-30-2005, 11:41 AM

sell it to Rick Latona

Babagirls · 10-30-2005, 11:52 AM

theres ONE person in particualar that everytime i open my mouth, this newbie goes & does it and promotes the hell out of it and rakes in the cash, or better yet, he'll look at what i've already DONE, make a few (and i mean VERY LITTLE) changes to it and claim it was his idea.

cant believe its got to the point in this industry where you cant even TALK about ideas anymore. heh.

bdld · 10-30-2005, 12:35 PM

i never share info for this very reason

NoWhErE · 10-30-2005, 12:58 PM

Stealing someone else's idea is completely immoral... but... alot of people are immoral.

So it comes down to a question of personnal values. Are you a moral person or not?

polle54 · 10-30-2005, 01:22 PM

why don't you clear it with the guy and make biz with him?

Hmm I appreiciate honest people I almost never tell people with interests about potential money making oppotunities but I did it once over icq with a guy from this board and he had the last of the idea and we split 50/50.

I suggest you do the same or if your greedy go along and start making yourself a bad rep.

nofx · 10-30-2005, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Babagirls

theres ONE person in particualar that everytime i open my mouth, this newbie goes & does it and promotes the hell out of it and rakes in the cash, or better yet, he'll look at what i've already DONE, make a few (and i mean VERY LITTLE) changes to it and claim it was his idea.

cant believe its got to the point in this industry where you cant even TALK about ideas anymore. heh.

post their name

clickclickclick · 10-30-2005, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polle54

why don't you clear it with the guy and make biz with him?

Hmm I appreiciate honest people I almost never tell people with interests about potential money making oppotunities but I did it once over icq with a guy from this board and he had the last of the idea and we split 50/50.

I suggest you do the same or if your greedy go along and start making yourself a bad rep.

I have offered my resources (money, knowledge, skills, etc..) and they were not interested.

That being said, it is them who took their idea off the original person to begin with.. i would just be collaterial damage

nastyboy1 · 10-30-2005, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Redrob

If you are going to discuss a project with someone, I'd have them sign a Confidentiality/Non-disclosure Agreement first.

yup. And make sure it has some financial teeth to it.

clickclickclick · 10-30-2005, 01:55 PM

to be fair, which how many sales rep opened their own paysites? is it a significant %? because experience is based on working known ideas. Thus if they opened up their own site, chances are they "stole" some ideas. IMO

dcortez · 10-30-2005, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickclickclick

i know its "just business". but if someone with a loud mouth told you everything you needed to make alot of cash, would it be wrong to take his idea and do it?

no nda or anything moral to prevent you from doing this. he would get a smaller cut of the pie now that he told me everything (since more ppl + same pie = smaller pieces)

thoughts?

Ask the person whose idea it was.

If it seems like a dumb idea (to ask the person), then maybe there is no official NDA but the 'anything moral' part might not be as clear.

What would you want someone to do if the roles were reversed?

Will this burn a friendship/trust?

If their was a friendship/trust involved, are you suggesting the potential monetary return of the idea is worth more?

Is that what can be expected of you when dealing with you?

Why not get his/her blessing for you to try it out and do it with clear conscience?

-Dino

clickclickclick · 10-30-2005, 02:10 PM

This idea is currenty done by a big business, so he stole this idea from them and is currently doing it. He just opened his big mouth to me about it.

Part of the thing is that he has been telling alot of people about this, yet many just dont care unlike myself. I can hide everything so that he wont know its me, but it will affect his progress/finance. He wont go broke, but he will grow slower.

He is an acquitance, friend of a friend. the potential rewards goes upto 150k a month, with perhaps 30% recurring monthly and 40% recurring yearly.

I like to think that i rather work with you before working against you. I will do all that i can to setup a partnership. But if the reward outweights this and partnership is not a solution, i might be inclinded to compete with you. That being said, there are more than just me and him competing on this level.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcortez

Ask the person whose idea it was.

If it seems like a dumb idea (to ask the person), then maybe there is no official NDA but the 'anything moral' part might not be as clear.

What would you want someone to do if the roles were reversed?

Will this burn a friendship/trust?

If their was a friendship/trust involved, are you suggesting the potential monetary return of the idea is worth more?

Is that what can be expected of you when dealing with you?

Why not get his/her blessing for you to try it out and do it with clear conscience?

-Dino

10-30-2005, 11:31 AM	#1
clickclickclick Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,227	Stealing other ppls ideas i know its "just business". but if someone with a loud mouth told you everything you needed to make alot of cash, would it be wrong to take his idea and do it? no nda or anything moral to prevent you from doing this. he would get a smaller cut of the pie now that he told me everything (since more ppl + same pie = smaller pieces) thoughts? __________________ if you need more than 3 clicks to get to a join page, something is wrong ;) p.s. i still bring the sales whores here.

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10-30-2005, 11:36 AM	#4
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Babagirls Text Writer Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 18,812	theres ONE person in particualar that everytime i open my mouth, this newbie goes & does it and promotes the hell out of it and rakes in the cash, or better yet, he'll look at what i've already DONE, make a few (and i mean VERY LITTLE) changes to it and claim it was his idea. cant believe its got to the point in this industry where you cant even TALK about ideas anymore. heh. __________________ Need a Text Writer? Blogs\|Reviews\|Descriptions\|Paysites\|TGP's\|Stories ICQ: 397892500

10-30-2005, 11:34 AM	#2
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	well.. some people would kill you for it

10-30-2005, 11:37 AM	#5
HorseShit Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 17,513	what idea are you talking about? it depends on the situation

10-30-2005, 11:40 AM	#6
Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,791	If you are going to discuss a project with someone, I'd have them sign a Confidentiality/Non-disclosure Agreement first.

10-30-2005, 11:40 AM	#7
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	I am sure he will be thrilled, You remember that when you end up in a ditch somewhere.

10-30-2005, 12:35 PM	#10
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	i never share info for this very reason

10-30-2005, 12:58 PM	#11
NoWhErE Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 10,411	Stealing someone else's idea is completely immoral... but... alot of people are immoral. So it comes down to a question of personnal values. Are you a moral person or not? __________________ skype: lordofthecameltoe

10-30-2005, 01:22 PM	#12
polle54 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The Beach Posts: 4,626	why don't you clear it with the guy and make biz with him? Hmm I appreiciate honest people I almost never tell people with interests about potential money making oppotunities but I did it once over icq with a guy from this board and he had the last of the idea and we split 50/50. I suggest you do the same or if your greedy go along and start making yourself a bad rep. __________________ ICQ# 143561781

10-30-2005, 01:55 PM	#16
clickclickclick Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,227	to be fair, which how many sales rep opened their own paysites? is it a significant %? because experience is based on working known ideas. Thus if they opened up their own site, chances are they "stole" some ideas. IMO __________________ if you need more than 3 clicks to get to a join page, something is wrong ;) p.s. i still bring the sales whores here.