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Ted · 03-12-2002, 04:01 AM

where did nedder go ?
this was just getting interesting

jimmyf · 03-12-2002, 08:05 AM

Yip GW Bush is Stupid!!!

Like a FOX...

Nedder · 03-12-2002, 10:03 AM

Ya I finally went to sleep. Exposing hypocrisy is tiring work, especially with the onslaught of idiocy I've been receiving here. Examples?

>>quote:
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Where does your information come from? Friends? Media? Communist China?
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I listen to all sources of information to form a balanced opinion. Try it sometime<<

Correction. You listen to all sources of information that AGREE WITH YOU. It seems to me, that ANY information and ANYBODY that contradicts your prefabricated POV seems to be dismissed outright as someone who is "blind" and can't see your ultimate truth.

That, my friend, makes you a flaming liberal hypocrite. Don't worry you are in good company, there are plenty more like you.

As for the other guy, I forget your name, I'll call you Flaming Liberal Hypocrite #2....You show an extreme lack of understanding of the world when you say we are better off trying to UNDERSTAND why the terrorists want to attack us to prevent future attacks. Soundbites like "They attacked our freedom" are simply population control mechanisms to you?

Here's a newsflash little man. They attack us because they hate us for BEING Americans, and all those things that makes us AMERICANS, that simply go against their religiion and their culture. Their governments bombard them from birth with anti-American sentiment to deflect attention from their own inadequacy. Again, how do you intend to solve this? It's really easy and liberal to SAY lets understand, but if you look not so hard you will realize understanding is very EASY but because of the current situation, IRREVERSIBLE.

Did you want to have the World Court deal with Bin Laden instead of the military? Do you think we should have demanded he be brought to justice instead of destroying the Taliban and attacking Al Quada's means of terrorist strength? Do you actually think you can DEAL with them? Are you in favor of the last decades work with Arafat where he tells you he wants PEACE and goes home and sends out the suicide bombers?

Deal with the terrorists, yes, maybe we can meet their demands so they won't attack us anymore.

Don't tell me what is unAmerican you little screwjob.

Nz

Nedder · 03-12-2002, 10:10 AM

>>Dann said...
I would have definitely gone with McCain (though my commitment was already to the Greens). So you see, in my case, I'm not believing my party leaders, because technically, I belong to no party. What I like to do is this thing called reading.>>

God, McCain, it figures. In your independent readings have you heard anything about this guy and his exploits in Congress and otherwise?

Here's a hint. He acts like a spoiled little Napoleon. When he doesn't get his way, he stomps angrily out of the room. He's made one of the guys who helped get him out of Vietnam his #1 enemy. Ya this guy is a real "let's cooperate" kind of guy.

I think, my best argument however, will be GW's sweeping re-election in 2004. I can only imagine the sour faces of sorrow I'll see from those of you in this thread.

It sort of makes all of your idiot remarks worth it, you know?

Nz

jammyjenkins · 03-12-2002, 12:35 PM

It's due to people like Nedder that 5 billion people think Americans' are idiots...

Danny_C · 03-12-2002, 01:05 PM

Whew, why can't I just bring myself to ignore this asinine shit? Oh well, here we go....

You said, "Here's a hint. He acts like a spoiled little Napoleon. When he doesn't get his way, he stomps angrily out of the room. He's made one of the guys who helped get him out of Vietnam his #1 enemy. Ya this guy is a real "let's cooperate" kind of guy."

That's exactly why McCain would have been a much better candidate than Bush. Our government has gotten FAR to comfortable with its own corruption, and it's about time we had a man with some strong principles who is determined to clean things up a bit. McCain isn't 100% clean himself, and I never said I would have voted for him over Nader... I just said he was the best out of the 4 main party primary candidates... and how did Bush beat him? Some of the dirtiest political tactics of all time (sorry, but to use McCain's courage in a POW camp against him to make him out to be insane is NOT good politics... especially when Bush himself is a draft dodger). Let me simplify this for you: I was using that example to demonstrate that I'm not a Democrat, and that I don't get my opinions from Democrats, as you implied all liberals must do.

"Correction. You listen to all sources of information that AGREE WITH YOU. It seems to me, that ANY information and ANYBODY that contradicts your prefabricated POV seems to be dismissed outright as someone who is "blind" and can't see your ultimate truth."

Ok, explain to me why I went out of my way to tell R3K and other Bush supporters that I wasn't targetting them. It's because they at least have put some THOUGHT into their beliefs. I still would maintain that they're wrong, but I respect their intelligence, and don't mind debating with them. You have yet to come up with a single intelligent argument to defend your case, other than slinging insults and regurgitating Bill "No Spin" O'Reilly idiocy.

And why is understanding the motivations of the terrorists a bad thing? Obviously you haven't tried, but you also haven't given me a legitimate reason why we shouldn't. If you have a good argument to defend your case here, give it. I'm listening.

I never said we shouldn't have used our military... that's not even the point of this debate. I'm saying that if we're forced to kill people (I hope you realize we've killed more innocent civilians than were killed in the WTC), then we should make an effort to really understand and SOLVE the problem so that we don't have to keep killing more people, and so that we don't have to worry quite so much about them killing our civilians again. There's NEVER a time in life when trying to understand a situation (especially one with such large consequences) is a negative thing.

Finally, you said, "Deal with the terrorists, yes, maybe we can meet their demands so they won't attack us anymore."

Did I say to meet their demands? See, when a person is backed against a wall and has no intelligent argument left, that what tends to happen. You twist words, or you put words in people's mouths, or you resort to insults and recitals of your favorite pundent. Let me also make this one as SIMPLE as possible for you: by understanding their motivations, we can better formulate the best possible response.

Anyway, I'm done with this thread. I'm not going to keep arguing with a person who is proud of not trying to understand the situation. Proud ignorance isn't a good opponent for debate.

Sjayne · 03-12-2002, 01:37 PM

Doesn't say much about the Ivy league system if you can graduate without being able to identify countries on an unlabled map.

I went to university in Boston and spent a lot of time with Harvard and MIT kids. On a whole I found that MIT kids where great because they had to actually have a super brain in their head to get in and to survive. With some exceptions the Harvard kids were there because mommy and daddy could afford to send them.

When I was at Northeastern University Bill Clinton gave the graduation address one of the years. I am not a huge Clinton fan but I have rarely been in the presence of anyone that oozed that much personality and intellegence. From just being someone in an audience he was addressing I understood why he can captivate people. On a one and one level that must be almost overpowering. That man is anything but stupid although from the things I read Hillary actually is debatably smarter. Of course that doesn't mean they are necessaribly honourable but they do have huge brain power.

I never voted for Clinton, in his last campaign I voted for an independent canidate because I was frustrated with him. However, give me a choice now and I would vote for him to get Bush out of office. Actually I would almost vote for Colin Powell to get Bush out of office.

When there is a war or whatever people often mistake respect for the office of president for respect of the actual president.

Clinton to many in the world was a hero..ask the people of N. Ireland. Domesticly that wasn't so. The reverse seems to be comming true for Bush. In an dream world we will have a president that balances the two.

Ted · 03-13-2002, 12:09 AM

Sorry Nedder, been out all day driving around the elderly for there monthly excursion.

You are

A fool
An idiot
Misguided
Deluded (no offense ludedude)
A fanatic
A Zealot
An Extremist
You have blind faith which is a dangerous thing.
You try to put words in peoples mouths.
Take the time to read and understand what people are saying.

One point you may be right on is that bush will be re-elected, but not for the reasons you think. History shows that war like activity increases a Leader's popularity.

TaDoW · 03-13-2002, 12:12 AM

Ted · 03-13-2002, 12:23 AM

It will make sense after a six pack

You will be able to post like nedder after 2 six packs

TaDoW · 03-13-2002, 12:24 AM

ahhh... now I got it =)

Jakke PNG · 03-13-2002, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jammyjenkins
It's due to people like Nedder that 5 billion people think Americans' are idiots...

I'm innocent.

Jamie · 03-13-2002, 01:04 AM

Quote:

And about your adult webmaster biz, how much you think that'd be earning you in Afghanistan you fuck. Think for a second.

I second that!

Ted · 03-13-2002, 01:25 AM

Ummm, Tadow.... got any beer left ? me thinks me need some

Danny_C · 03-13-2002, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jamie

I second that!

You second it, and yet I still don't get the point or the relevance. Is it me who's the dumb one? (don't answer that)

03-12-2002, 08:05 AM	#52
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03-12-2002, 10:03 AM	#53
Nedder Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 555	Ya I finally went to sleep. Exposing hypocrisy is tiring work, especially with the onslaught of idiocy I've been receiving here. Examples? >>quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Where does your information come from? Friends? Media? Communist China? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I listen to all sources of information to form a balanced opinion. Try it sometime<< Correction. You listen to all sources of information that AGREE WITH YOU. It seems to me, that ANY information and ANYBODY that contradicts your prefabricated POV seems to be dismissed outright as someone who is "blind" and can't see your ultimate truth. That, my friend, makes you a flaming liberal hypocrite. Don't worry you are in good company, there are plenty more like you. As for the other guy, I forget your name, I'll call you Flaming Liberal Hypocrite #2....You show an extreme lack of understanding of the world when you say we are better off trying to UNDERSTAND why the terrorists want to attack us to prevent future attacks. Soundbites like "They attacked our freedom" are simply population control mechanisms to you? Here's a newsflash little man. They attack us because they hate us for BEING Americans, and all those things that makes us AMERICANS, that simply go against their religiion and their culture. Their governments bombard them from birth with anti-American sentiment to deflect attention from their own inadequacy. Again, how do you intend to solve this? It's really easy and liberal to SAY lets understand, but if you look not so hard you will realize understanding is very EASY but because of the current situation, IRREVERSIBLE. Did you want to have the World Court deal with Bin Laden instead of the military? Do you think we should have demanded he be brought to justice instead of destroying the Taliban and attacking Al Quada's means of terrorist strength? Do you actually think you can DEAL with them? Are you in favor of the last decades work with Arafat where he tells you he wants PEACE and goes home and sends out the suicide bombers? Deal with the terrorists, yes, maybe we can meet their demands so they won't attack us anymore. Don't tell me what is unAmerican you little screwjob. Nz Last edited by Nedder; 03-12-2002 at 10:05 AM..

03-12-2002, 01:37 PM	#57
Sjayne Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,182	Doesn't say much about the Ivy league system if you can graduate without being able to identify countries on an unlabled map. I went to university in Boston and spent a lot of time with Harvard and MIT kids. On a whole I found that MIT kids where great because they had to actually have a super brain in their head to get in and to survive. With some exceptions the Harvard kids were there because mommy and daddy could afford to send them. When I was at Northeastern University Bill Clinton gave the graduation address one of the years. I am not a huge Clinton fan but I have rarely been in the presence of anyone that oozed that much personality and intellegence. From just being someone in an audience he was addressing I understood why he can captivate people. On a one and one level that must be almost overpowering. That man is anything but stupid although from the things I read Hillary actually is debatably smarter. Of course that doesn't mean they are necessaribly honourable but they do have huge brain power. I never voted for Clinton, in his last campaign I voted for an independent canidate because I was frustrated with him. However, give me a choice now and I would vote for him to get Bush out of office. Actually I would almost vote for Colin Powell to get Bush out of office. When there is a war or whatever people often mistake respect for the office of president for respect of the actual president. Clinton to many in the world was a hero..ask the people of N. Ireland. Domesticly that wasn't so. The reverse seems to be comming true for Bush. In an dream world we will have a president that balances the two. __________________ <a href="http://www.wishing.com/money">Make 50% commissions promoting our penis pills, breast pills, weight loss pills and more!</a> <a href="http://www.webinc.com">Need Design Work? Check Out Our Huge Design Portfolio Online, Special: 100 Animated Banners, $799.00 </a> - tell them Sarah sent you.

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03-13-2002, 12:24 AM	#61
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03-12-2002, 04:01 AM	#51
Ted Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 830	where did nedder go ? this was just getting interesting

03-12-2002, 10:10 AM	#54
Nedder Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 555	>>Dann said... I would have definitely gone with McCain (though my commitment was already to the Greens). So you see, in my case, I'm not believing my party leaders, because technically, I belong to no party. What I like to do is this thing called reading.>> God, McCain, it figures. In your independent readings have you heard anything about this guy and his exploits in Congress and otherwise? Here's a hint. He acts like a spoiled little Napoleon. When he doesn't get his way, he stomps angrily out of the room. He's made one of the guys who helped get him out of Vietnam his #1 enemy. Ya this guy is a real "let's cooperate" kind of guy. I think, my best argument however, will be GW's sweeping re-election in 2004. I can only imagine the sour faces of sorrow I'll see from those of you in this thread. It sort of makes all of your idiot remarks worth it, you know? Nz

03-12-2002, 12:35 PM	#55
jammyjenkins So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,371	It's due to people like Nedder that 5 billion people think Americans' are idiots...

03-12-2002, 01:05 PM	#56
Danny_C Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,160	Whew, why can't I just bring myself to ignore this asinine shit? Oh well, here we go.... You said, "Here's a hint. He acts like a spoiled little Napoleon. When he doesn't get his way, he stomps angrily out of the room. He's made one of the guys who helped get him out of Vietnam his #1 enemy. Ya this guy is a real "let's cooperate" kind of guy." That's exactly why McCain would have been a much better candidate than Bush. Our government has gotten FAR to comfortable with its own corruption, and it's about time we had a man with some strong principles who is determined to clean things up a bit. McCain isn't 100% clean himself, and I never said I would have voted for him over Nader... I just said he was the best out of the 4 main party primary candidates... and how did Bush beat him? Some of the dirtiest political tactics of all time (sorry, but to use McCain's courage in a POW camp against him to make him out to be insane is NOT good politics... especially when Bush himself is a draft dodger). Let me simplify this for you: I was using that example to demonstrate that I'm not a Democrat, and that I don't get my opinions from Democrats, as you implied all liberals must do. "Correction. You listen to all sources of information that AGREE WITH YOU. It seems to me, that ANY information and ANYBODY that contradicts your prefabricated POV seems to be dismissed outright as someone who is "blind" and can't see your ultimate truth." Ok, explain to me why I went out of my way to tell R3K and other Bush supporters that I wasn't targetting them. It's because they at least have put some THOUGHT into their beliefs. I still would maintain that they're wrong, but I respect their intelligence, and don't mind debating with them. You have yet to come up with a single intelligent argument to defend your case, other than slinging insults and regurgitating Bill "No Spin" O'Reilly idiocy. And why is understanding the motivations of the terrorists a bad thing? Obviously you haven't tried, but you also haven't given me a legitimate reason why we shouldn't. If you have a good argument to defend your case here, give it. I'm listening. I never said we shouldn't have used our military... that's not even the point of this debate. I'm saying that if we're forced to kill people (I hope you realize we've killed more innocent civilians than were killed in the WTC), then we should make an effort to really understand and SOLVE the problem so that we don't have to keep killing more people, and so that we don't have to worry quite so much about them killing our civilians again. There's NEVER a time in life when trying to understand a situation (especially one with such large consequences) is a negative thing. Finally, you said, "Deal with the terrorists, yes, maybe we can meet their demands so they won't attack us anymore." Did I say to meet their demands? See, when a person is backed against a wall and has no intelligent argument left, that what tends to happen. You twist words, or you put words in people's mouths, or you resort to insults and recitals of your favorite pundent. Let me also make this one as SIMPLE as possible for you: by understanding their motivations, we can better formulate the best possible response. Anyway, I'm done with this thread. I'm not going to keep arguing with a person who is proud of not trying to understand the situation. Proud ignorance isn't a good opponent for debate.

03-13-2002, 12:09 AM	#58
Ted Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 830	Sorry Nedder, been out all day driving around the elderly for there monthly excursion. You are A fool An idiot Misguided Deluded (no offense ludedude) A fanatic A Zealot An Extremist You have blind faith which is a dangerous thing. You try to put words in peoples mouths. Take the time to read and understand what people are saying. One point you may be right on is that bush will be re-elected, but not for the reasons you think. History shows that war like activity increases a Leader's popularity.

03-13-2002, 12:23 AM	#60
Ted Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 830	It will make sense after a six pack You will be able to post like nedder after 2 six packs

03-13-2002, 01:25 AM	#64
Ted Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 830	Ummm, Tadow.... got any beer left ? me thinks me need some