you are soooooo far in over your head that you have no idea how you are embarrassing yourself. 10K is nothing. its not even enough to spend on traffic to learn anything from. you are talking to mostly nobodies who don't run sites or affiliate programs. voyeur sites suck. they dont convert. they dont retain and no one is going to send you traffic. the content sucks. its been done to death and all the sites except Claudias in amsterdam and the ones from Candid and geishahouse.com are gone. well over 100 sites just as the one you are describing have came and went from all over the world since 98. all with hot chicks, great content and "great ideas" .... in the end, no one cares.

people start programs with 100's of thousands of dollars and are gone in 6 months all the time. its not that easy. it has nothing to do with money and how much you have to spend. it has to do with a keen understanding of the biz, a good understanding of traffic and how to convert it and the connections to be able to get that traffic. you continue to show that you have none of those vital elements in place. getting traffic is simple. getting good traffic is extremely difficult.

you want to rely on affiliates? how are you going to get affiliates? 10K... a banner ad on this board will cost a couple k and no one will click on it. 10% of affiliates control 90% of the traffic and that 10% is never going to talk to you. its not me being an asshole... its me talking from experience. do you have any idea how many people come and go with "great ideas" everyday in this biz? how long they last because they dont understand the business. Do you think you have something unique? naked girls and cams? its never been done before?

the best advice that can be given to you is to simply slow down, try to learn about the biz first... and save your money. you are going to lose it all. dont spend anything more than you are ready to lose.

all the people here saying "yeah, its doable" are not running affiliate programs or managing similar sites. i have done both.

:2 cents: :2 cents:

can I see the 8 "hot" girls?

then I'll tell you if 100 signups a day is possible :pimp

I sure don't see why not. At one time, I was making on average 23.5 signups per day with AVS on just one site with no paid advertising. (Of course, that was "in the day", and I don't do anywhere near that now). It only takes 4 affiliates pulling that same number to get close, and I highly doubt I was the top affiliate. Sure AVS and paysites are very different animals, but to me it shows the potential...

Dude Chill The Fuck Out...
 

Dude what the fuck was that all about, what do you run ??? So no one who as posted in this thread knows what they are talking about, but you do ??? Interesting idea... good to see your full of confidence...

I dont make out to be the be all and end all in this industry... but I am keen to learn... I guess I will have to try and prove you wrong... and hopefully produce a product that will be beneficial to a lot of people...

Thanks for your input...

Jimbo...
 

Jimbo I start in the office on Monday... I will be putting some promo images together... so will be sure to post here :thumbsup I eagily await your opinion of the girls...

no, it's not possible, move on

Lol...
 

LOL Well in my first post I did point out it was a weird question :winkwink:

But I did also ask what I need to do to make it happen... I guess asking people to share their juice is a big ask...

than you must be running some pretty shitty pay sites or have some pretty shitty webmasters. :P

I would be a millionare if I was in this industry for 8 years already.

I'll gurantee you our new reality site will be making 100 sales a day within 3 months of launch..

if you have $ anything is posssssible

True but even with paid spots, certain type of sites do well on certain tgps. and looking at his sites i don't think they would do well on a majorty of the large tgps where you can buy spots at

oh didn't see any site he posted, can't see any damn link :Oh crap

missed the part where he said:
"Yes the company is giving me an advertising budget... month 1 will be $10,000"

$3.33 per signup, that's really going to work! That's 22 adwords clicks at $0.15 each.

Why aim so low, with $10,000 you'll easily get 500 signups a day! :thumbsup

damn i'm pwning you today woj!

Hmmm...
 

Who's sites ??? Myn... the sites in my sig are not the sites I am referring to, the sites I am on about in this thread is a new company who have employed me to do their sites...

Hmmm...
 

Do people get paid extra to be dicks on this board ??? if so Krille you will be a millionaire without any sites...

First off I have not posted any links to the new sites... so no one as of yet knows what they are like...

Second yes there is a $10,000 budget, but I am not relying on that to get me 100 sales a day... but fuck it dude why dont you read what you want to read, edit and pasts what you want... the whole point of the thread was to get peoples input in what things should be done, but of course I knew it would also attract people who just want to throw dumb shit about... so carry on...

Funny Coincidence...
 

coincidence that the ones being all fuckign negative and condecending all have blank sigs... nothing to be proud of maybe ??? :321GFY

Oops, didn't see that you only wanted people to post if they thought you would have any success at all.
Did you expect a step by step guide on how to get 100 signups a day to a paysite?
Wake up and smell the coffeeeeeeee :helpme

yeah it's very stupid of people not to post links to the sites they are "proud of" in their sigs, why don't everyone put up link to their shit so newbies like you can steal ideas from them?

Go to some sites you think are doing 100 sales. Check the alexa number to determine traffic. Divide by 600. This will get you in the ball park on 90% of the sites. Voyeur you should divide by 1000.

The deal with affiliates is 90% do nothing. 10% will make you sales. But even those are not going to 10 sales a day for a month with you. Or even 1 sale a day.

Lol...
 

Ah so you really dont have anything... just talk a good (bad) game !

what are you talking about? damn you just pwned me, i don't have a sig, darn what do i do now??? shit! thought everyone surfed gfy with sigs off :Oh crap

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Yes, you HAVE TO have a sig on GFY to be someone in this biz :thumbsup

You seem to have false impression for many things and even starts from your thread title. (100 sales/day). Why not 69/day or 134/day? What's your monthly membership price gonna be? When you start a serious business plan you consider cost, break-even point, roi, risk and so on factors. Daily sales alone is a totally pointless factor.

And btw, read Pleasurepays post again, disregard his harshness, and look at the points he made...

skit, då är det kört för mej då :Oh crap

It's OK...
 

It's OK Krille... people will forget how stupid you are in a day or two... And as you stated I am sure there are an equal amount of people who think I am stupid for askign questions, instead of being arragant and thinking I know it all... just beating you to the punch...

So to clarify, I know if I am goign to achieve the 100 sales a day I am indeed going to need good affilaites promoting me, I also realise I am goign to need a good product for them to sell... I also know that i am also goign to have to generate my own traffic, through buying traffic, buying ad spots, uterlising SEO... but I am looking to think outside the box, which is why I asked for some input... sorry to those who's lifes are so boring this flagged the thread as somethign worth flamming...

Japp, du kan lika gärna sälja datorn och gå direkt till AMS :winkwink:

Your Right...
 

You are correct... the 100 sign ups a day is not the only factor we have considered, but the thread was a question based on how achievable it is... and what was needed to achieve it... simple as that...

As was mentioned in theis thread, there is a lot of hype... people throwing big figures around... so just wanted soem input... yes I didnt appreciate the harshness of one or two replys, I was certainly up for constructive critism... but people just slagging people off they dont even know, not giving any constructive critism... just flammin bores the fuck out of me...

yes, i'm so stupid for not having a sig, damn, it's so utterly stupid!!!

so with your great skills, how many signups do you get a day?

Shut your pie hole and listen to pleasure pays. He's giving you the best advice in the thread and you're taking it like a personal insult instead of $100,000 advice.

The model of site you talk about is THE SITE EVERY NON PORN COMPANY WANTING TO GET INTO PORN WANTS TO DO. It also happens to be the absolutely most expensive one with costly feed software and high ongoing content costs which is why most of them fail. You can spend hundreds of thousands trying to break into the industry with high cost products and lose it all, it happens every day.

None of the other people are reading the thread properly.. can you do 100 signups a day on a paysite starting out today? not really unless you know something more than the 1000 other webmasters that have been doing it for almost 10 years know, can afford to pay for the sign ups (which if you can't do PPS you can't) or have found the next tawnee stone (which isn't your business model and it takes much more than a great model to make a site successful).

Can you do 100 sign ups off a bunch of sites with a year or so of work and a grip of cash? Sure.. it's easier.

Are you going to do 100 signups a day on an 8 girl 24 hour feed site without PPS and only a 10k/mo budget and not knowing enough to understand that the critical advice being given to you is golden so you ignore it and just soak up the good vibes from the guys that aren't paying attention?
I wouldn't bet on it unless your 6 programmers program a time machine to take you back to 1996 and you buy voyeurdorm.com.

But you can still start up a program for them in another direction and build it up over a year or two to get near 100 a day.. You just need to find a better and more cost efficient way to enter the market and starting talking more in the 20-50 a day range so your backers aren't disappointed when you don't hit 100 after 6 months - they're happy when you pass the 50 you told them in 12..
Start looking at the successful programs around, the stand out sites.. the profitable niches and form a strategy... hiring a consultant to write up a business plan probably isn't a bad idea.

hey don't wake him up from his 1996 dream :upsidedow

Thanks...
 

Thanks for both the nice advice and the reality check. Appologies to PleasurePays... I guess it was just the harshness that got my back up, but bhutocracy was right their was some good advice in there :)

As there was in your post, apart from shutting my pie hole... :winkwink: is anyone out in AOE in November, I will be there and would love to meet up and show I aint really a bad guy :upsidedow

I only said to shut it because im reading it thinking "this is 110% spot on" and you reply swearing etc. He's the only one admitting to trying it out and failing so even though he's not flying anything in his sig you should listen. Roger V, TheDoc, thinx who have both been around and run their own stuff were also doubtful, Donovan and spooky actually gave you figures showing how hard it is. It's hard to know who runs the programs in their sig and who is just sigwhoring... but you should listen to the majority of guys that run their own stuff.. Duke and felix dont count they're just bragging :)

Lol...
 

Yeah I hear ya... as I said I just got the hair on the back of neck up cause of the harshness, guess ome people just say things that way...

I do think the site will be hot however, and I am 100% commited to making it a success :)

haha. i am not offended by anything. no need to apologize. its all just pixels on a monitor to me. but you have to understand that most of the people responding to your posts have never run an affiliate program and have never even dreamt of 100 joins a day to a site. i bet a few of these guys can't muster up 100 hits a day.

you will have to accept that 10K is not enough to do anything with. with one site i have right now, i have spent over 100K on traffic in the last couple months and I am still tweaking, tuning and making changes. thats just to test. thats just money to set on fire and watch burn while i figure out what works best. there is a massive learning curve in this business. its huge. and just as fast as you are figuring things out, everything is changing.

you could buy links on the hun and world sex for 10K and maybe never get more than 10 joins for that money in a month. there are just too many factors to consider and its not fair to you for anyone to say "yeah, its possible" when they are just responding to the thread title... and not considering what you wrote...that you are investing money in and launching a program/site with no understanding of how the business works.

you take it as an insult for people to say that your asking the question is a good indication that you will fail... and fail to realize that if you have to ask such a question, you have sooooooo much to learn already, that your chances of succeeding are almost nil.

and i am sorry... these projects have came and went from all over the world. great sites, hot chicks, compelling content... voyeur houses from las vegas, costa rica, malibu, seattle, miami, moscow, riga, prague etc etc etc etc etc etc etc... there has been many. they are all gone. and you should really give that some thought. why are they gone. I can tell you, but it does not sound like you are ready for the answer.... but i will tell you anyway. the content is not as interesting to surfers as you think it will be. not my idea, not my opinion but a time proven fact.

no big adult program is going to add it to their members area no matter how cool it is or what upsell you offer because they know their members don't care.

as others besides myself have mentioned... these sites convert poorly. they have poor retention. it takes only a few minutes to click through the cams and get bored with it... and no matter how many cams you have, most cams are going to not have anyone there. you will learn how hard that is too... wait until you get bombarded with e-mails complaining that no girls were in the house even though you know you had 6 in the house all day for 3 days. this is most likely going to be the most frustrating and disspointing experience you will have in this biz and i am sorry, but i dont see it working.

and for the record, i ran the content side of geishahouse.com, it is in russia - even today and i turned it over to one of my friends who runs it for directsex. the girls are Russian/Korean - and thats not the only one i have done. But you should know that that site (and others) are still online because the chat rooms make money. the site doesn't make money. BUT the chat rooms also have their own traffic from other sources... not from the site itself. even if you did 100 joins a day, you would not have a big enough members base to make money with the chat without significant traffic from others sources. 100 users per day does not mean 100 chat users per day. i dont think geishahouse.com with all their affiliates ever got more than 30 joins a day to that site at its peak and its been online since 98.

i know the numbers of this game very well. thats why my best advice to you was to just slow down first. take your time, think about what you are doing, learn a little, talk to people and make sure you have a plan that makes sense. it takes more than enthusiasm and determination when you have 20-30-40-50K per month in bills to pay and they are due on the first of each month.

:2 cents:

and i would guess that there are less than 50 people/companies in this biz that do more than 100 joins a day consistently... and there are 1000's that have been trying for years.

:2 cents:

Probably not far off it there.

You wanted opinions, Pleasurepays gave you one. He took quite a bit of time in doing so .
You don't like the message, fine; but don't shoot the messenger.

If I were you, I would read it again carefully and research what he says about the closing of well know similar sites... :2 cents:

Hmmm...
 

Kinda did that dude, hence my appology... but point taken :thumbsup

this is the most accurate thing in this thread

So true :2 cents: