So I'm going to call a CHARGEBACK member... - GoFuckYourself.com

d00t · 10-27-2005, 10:12 PM

Any tips of what to say?

So far asking for the woman of the house seems the best route..

lets hear what you would say!

jscott · 10-27-2005, 10:21 PM

bump for advice for d00t...........sorry i dont have any to give ya myself

Babagirls · 10-27-2005, 10:24 PM

ask him why he canceled.
members area not good enough? etc

SomeCreep · 10-27-2005, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by d00t

Any tips of what to say?

So far asking for the woman of the house seems the best route..

lets hear what you would say!

Tell him to watch his back from now on.

Doctor Dre · 10-27-2005, 10:36 PM

HRmm ... there was a good text about fraudulent chargebacks ... how it is criminal etc etc. You could read HER that.

Veterans Day · 10-27-2005, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

HRmm ... there was a good text about fraudulent chargebacks ... how it is criminal etc etc. You could read HER that.

please man

MikeVega · 10-27-2005, 10:40 PM

record that shit ... could be good

Matt 26z · 10-27-2005, 10:41 PM

Be sure and update us here.

Webby · 10-27-2005, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d00t

Any tips of what to say?

So far asking for the woman of the house seems the best route..

lets hear what you would say!

Mmm.. depends on what you hope to achieve by this.

If you want to establish it is a valid chargeback or not, simply ask em and let them talk - the more rope you give, the better, - but listen hard!

You just went into the debt collection biz and a "sympathetic" woman calling may produce a better result.

If there is any evidence of deception, dunno what the laws are, but record the call if need be and transcribe that as contemporaneous notes for use in a court claim. They claim for the charge plus legal costs.

But.. is it really worth the hassle?

d00t · 10-28-2005, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Webby

But.. is it really worth the hassle?

actually im drunk and need some entertainment... thought it would be amusing to see how his wife took the "his membership to XXXHARDCORETEENSLUTS.NET where you downloaded 49,398 pictures and 94,282 videos and had cam shows with 3,389 cam girls.....blah blah"

i may not get my money back but at least that asshole wouldnt be charging anything more back anytime soon

Shoehorn! · 10-28-2005, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeVega

record that shit ... could be good

HAHA beat me to it.

VAIRES · 10-28-2005, 01:11 AM

Record It Do It Now!! Lol

kmanrox · 10-28-2005, 01:12 AM

jees man, time is $, do you really care that much? fantasyman wouldnt have gotten to where he is if he were calling all the chargebacks personally in the infancy of CE...

think big picture man

the boy · 10-28-2005, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by kmanrox

jees man, time is $, do you really care that much? fantasyman wouldnt have gotten to where he is if he were calling all the chargebacks personally in the infancy of CE...

think big picture man

dood.. your sig disturbs me

kmanrox · 10-28-2005, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by the boy

dood.. your sig disturbs me

so close your browser

bdld · 10-28-2005, 02:09 AM

i wouldnt do it, especially not a phone call, an email asking for the reason of the chargeback would be better.

Vegas · 10-28-2005, 02:41 AM

Ask him where would he like his download logs and reciept to be send.. Mr or Mrs.

DeadFidel · 10-28-2005, 03:15 AM

Don't sweat it..(as long as the rate is under .01)

reed_4 · 10-28-2005, 04:28 AM

Just update us dude.

thunder99 · 10-28-2005, 04:34 AM

We always call customers that dispute charges. The best plan is to be polite and explain that you are from the fraud division and that you are investigating the complaint. Try to side with at the begining and if they still deny it, ask if anyone else has access to the same PC and credit card because your logs indicate that the purchase was made from their IP number (you have to bullshit a bit here and blind them with techie speak).

I would say about 70% of the time we get them to admit that they made the purchase . Of course the next problem is getting the card company to accept the proof.

Slick · 10-28-2005, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bdld

i wouldnt do it, especially not a phone call, an email asking for the reason of the chargeback would be better.

I agree with that.

I still don't see how people can chargeback, ESPECIALLY when they do 2-3 months at a time, that's just wrong.

Brad Gosse · 10-28-2005, 05:50 AM

Let it go.

Unless you plan to start your own chargeback collections biz there is no glory in making these calls.

Spend that time making your members area better for the 99% of your users who pay honestly.

That will help your bottom line.

SilentKnight · 10-28-2005, 07:02 AM

I can see it being somewhat cathartic, but overall likely a waste of your time. There's been times that I've thought of doing something similiar, but when it gets down to it, considering the time involved...its not really worth it in the long run.

Good luck at any rate. I'd be interested in hearing what they have to say for themselves...and if you got anywhere.

SilentKnight

d00t · 10-28-2005, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

I can see it being somewhat cathartic, but overall likely a waste of your time. There's been times that I've thought of doing something similiar, but when it gets down to it, considering the time involved...its not really worth it in the long run.

Good luck at any rate. I'd be interested in hearing what they have to say for themselves...and if you got anywhere.

SilentKnight

you dont have time for a 5 minute phone call to TRY to understand why some dude decided to RIP YOU OFF ?

I'm breaking legs and drawing blood if you owe me $5, I'm just sick of these fucks doing it so easilly and taking off with my money, bandwidth and content. No free rides here.

SilentKnight · 10-28-2005, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by d00t

you dont have time for a 5 minute phone call to TRY to understand why some dude decided to RIP YOU OFF ?

I'm breaking legs and drawing blood if you owe me $5, I'm just sick of these fucks doing it so easilly and taking off with my money, bandwidth and content. No free rides here.

Chances are it ain't gonna be a mere 5 mins. of my time plus LD charges to whatever backwater buttfuck he's from - plus gettin' my blood pressure rockin'.

Ain't worth the aggravation. Sure its annoying...but a chargeback's a mere drop in the bucket.

Karma will catch up with the fuckstick someday.

Doctor Dre · 10-28-2005, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kmanrox

jees man, time is $, do you really care that much? fantasyman wouldnt have gotten to where he is if he were calling all the chargebacks personally in the infancy of CE...

think big picture man

Actually if you hired a 7$ an hour arrogant employe to call all the wives, maybe the chargebacks would stop ! lol

Doctor Dre · 10-28-2005, 11:18 PM

Omg this thread wasn't about running a good business ... it was about entraintement ;)

Dagwolf · 10-28-2005, 11:21 PM

Calling one customer who charged back isn't near the same as calling every single chargeback. Not by a long shot.

tapatio · 10-28-2005, 11:22 PM

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d00t Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In your mind Posts: 3,766	So I'm going to call a CHARGEBACK member... Any tips of what to say? So far asking for the woman of the house seems the best route.. lets hear what you would say!

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jscott So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Taipei Posts: 25,198	bump for advice for d00t...........sorry i dont have any to give ya myself

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10-28-2005, 01:11 AM	#12
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10-28-2005, 02:09 AM	#16
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	i wouldnt do it, especially not a phone call, an email asking for the reason of the chargeback would be better.

10-28-2005, 03:15 AM	#18
DeadFidel Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: This was my wife circa 2002 Posts: 6,760	Don't sweat it..(as long as the rate is under .01)

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10-28-2005, 04:34 AM	#20
thunder99 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Budapest Posts: 503	We always call customers that dispute charges. The best plan is to be polite and explain that you are from the fraud division and that you are investigating the complaint. Try to side with at the begining and if they still deny it, ask if anyone else has access to the same PC and credit card because your logs indicate that the purchase was made from their IP number (you have to bullshit a bit here and blind them with techie speak). I would say about 70% of the time we get them to admit that they made the purchase . Of course the next problem is getting the card company to accept the proof.

10-28-2005, 05:50 AM	#22
Brad Gosse Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Carpal Tunnel Posts: 2,616	Let it go. Unless you plan to start your own chargeback collections biz there is no glory in making these calls. Spend that time making your members area better for the 99% of your users who pay honestly. That will help your bottom line. __________________ Free Clipart

10-28-2005, 07:02 AM	#23
SilentKnight Megan Fox's fluffer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: shooting pool in Elysium Posts: 24,818	I can see it being somewhat cathartic, but overall likely a waste of your time. There's been times that I've thought of doing something similiar, but when it gets down to it, considering the time involved...its not really worth it in the long run. Good luck at any rate. I'd be interested in hearing what they have to say for themselves...and if you got anywhere. SilentKnight

10-28-2005, 11:21 PM	#28
Dagwolf President of Canada Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Leaving Hell, Entering Limbo Posts: 23,141	Calling one customer who charged back isn't near the same as calling every single chargeback. Not by a long shot. __________________ Sleep well, and dream of large women.

10-28-2005, 11:22 PM	#29
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