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graphical x · 10-24-2005, 08:27 PM

Interesting new genetic study says so...

http://www.printthis.clickability.co...artnerID=73272

For an environmental/cultural/social/historical alternative to 'genetic' theories (genetic theories scare me!) see: http://www.mugu.com/cgi-bin/Upstream...ve/sowell.html

Also, maybe intelligence is a function of historical evolution--many of the groups viewed as 'highly intelligent' were ghettoized and marginalized into occupations that forced them to have strong mental and business skills. Examples: Jews in Europe, Chinese in Southeast Asia, Lebanese in Africa, Asian Indians in Africa and Southeast Asia. These middlemen cultures routinely placed emphasis on education and academic aptitude since their livelihoods were non-agricultural and due to frequent pogroms/expulsions (Chinese were periodically massacred and brutalized in SE Asia as well as Asian Indians) they focused on high intellectual trades and professions (medicine and traders/bankers, etc).

I like the latter explanation...not any genetic or hard coded explanations.

What do you guys think?

slapass · 10-24-2005, 08:31 PM

Based on noble prizes, literature and higher degrees, you would have to say yes to the title of the thread.

Fletch XXX · 10-24-2005, 08:32 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protoco...Elders_of_Zion

Doctor Dre · 10-24-2005, 08:34 PM

Let's say they are more organised as an ethnic group then others ...

Pornwolf · 10-24-2005, 08:35 PM

It's possible. I wanna know why so many people seem to hate Jews though. What's up with that?

graphical x · 10-24-2005, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protoco...Elders_of_Zion

Proven to be fake

graphical x · 10-24-2005, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pornwolf

It's possible. I wanna know why so many people seem to hate Jews though. What's up with that?

Yep, I wonder why as well. I believe it has something to do with religion and christian demonization of Jews throughout history.

MattO · 10-24-2005, 08:37 PM

I'm not Jewish, so no.

FrankWhite · 10-24-2005, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pornwolf

It's possible. I wanna know why so many people seem to hate Jews though. What's up with that?

there is no easy answer but most of them its those who are jealous hate on jews.

graphical x · 10-24-2005, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Doomed

there is no easy answer but most of them its those who are jealous hate on jews.

Basically a lot of haters through the centuries use religious misunderstanding re the death of Jesus to mask their economic and political envy of Jews.

poorwebmaster · 10-24-2005, 09:28 PM

Fletch XXX · 10-24-2005, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by graphical x

Proven to be fake

did you even read the page?

Rob · 10-24-2005, 09:31 PM

No, Asians are.

DamageX · 10-24-2005, 09:34 PM

I'm definitely inclined to believe that they had to evolve due to the situations they ended up in. Let's not forget the fact, that the Jews ended up as bankers, was because during the middle ages they were not allowed to master any crafts, at the same time as Christians weren't allowed to lend money for interest. They filled a gap.

Fletch XXX · 10-24-2005, 09:34 PM

I didnt say it was real or "fake" as you put it. Just because it was used by nazis (just like swastika) doesnt mean this didnt exist BEFORE nazis used it.

As wikipedia says:

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There is evidence that the text was written by an operative of the Imperial Russian Okhranka Matvei Golovinski and was based on an early work by Maurice Joly linking Napoleon III to Machiavelli.

it isnt "fake" - it was reprinted and used as propaganmda, plagerized to say the least. It isnt fake, get your facts straight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protoco...Elders_of_Zion

DaddyHalbucks · 10-24-2005, 09:39 PM

Are some races/religions/ ethnicities "chosen" or superior?

Such superiority claims may have caused backlash against these groups in the past.

Superiority claims may have even driven opposition maniacs and criminals to try to commit genocide against those groups.

How smart is that?

DamageX · 10-24-2005, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Are some races/religions/ ethnicities "chosen" or superior?

Such superiority claims may have caused backlash against these groups in the past.

Superiority claims may have even driven opposition maniacs and criminals to try to commit genocide against those groups.

How smart is that?

Any publicity is good publicity, didn't you know?

I Fucked Her · 10-24-2005, 10:05 PM

Well maybe they hate the Jews ppl bec they are smarter

. I for myself don't hate them.

graphical x · 10-24-2005, 11:30 PM

It is fake cuz its not based on reality. There's no plan for world domination, etc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

I didnt say it was real or "fake" as you put it. Just because it was used by nazis (just like swastika) doesnt mean this didnt exist BEFORE nazis used it.

As wikipedia says:

it isnt "fake" - it was reprinted and used as propaganmda, plagerized to say the least. It isnt fake, get your facts straight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protoco...Elders_of_Zion

skinnay · 10-24-2005, 11:41 PM

anyone who takes religion seriously is an idiot

SmokeyTheBear · 10-24-2005, 11:43 PM

Would the "smartest" race let themselves be almost wiped out by one crazy madman and his cronies ? doubtfull..

The holocaust is to the jew , what slavery is to black people, those crutches wont last forever..

graphical x · 10-24-2005, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

The holocaust is to the jew , what slavery is to black people, those crutches wont last forever..

How is the holocaust a 'crutch'? Was it not the most savage manifestation of antisemitism in history?

skinnay · 10-24-2005, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by graphical x

How is the holocaust a 'crutch'? Was it not the most savage manifestation of antisemitism in history?

actually it wasn't

skinnay · 10-24-2005, 11:52 PM

and what he means by a crutch.. like slavery everyone feels bad for a race after something bad happens to them, so people try to help them out of pity or guilt.. but eventually it will wear off and people wont really care anymore

SmokeyTheBear · 10-24-2005, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by graphical x

How is the holocaust a 'crutch'?

Dont you think jewish people use it as a crutch ?

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Originally Posted by graphical x

Was it not the most savage manifestation of antisemitism in history?

Yes i suppose

xNetworx · 10-25-2005, 12:11 AM

Smokey, the klan called, they need you down at creek in 15 minutes for your weekly meeting.

xNetworx · 10-25-2005, 12:14 AM

To answer the question, I have no idea if they are genetically smarter. However, for being a tiny % of the world population, they sure gained a lot of wealth, power and achievment awards. Why do you think the US gives Isreals so much money? They develop advanced war technology for the US, not becuase of some Jewish conspiracy in DC.

SmokeyTheBear · 10-25-2005, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by pimpporn

Smokey, the klan called, they need you down at creek in 15 minutes for your weekly meeting.

The hospital called and needs your crutch back..

Thats exactly what i mean.. the fact you have to label me a racist because i dont agree jews are "smarter" than everyone else.. lol

xNetworx · 10-25-2005, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

The hospital called and needs your crutch back..

Thats exactly what i mean.. the fact you have to label me a racist because i dont agree jews are "smarter" than everyone else.. lol

See above post

SmokeyTheBear · 10-25-2005, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by pimpporn

See above post

see my post above yours to answer ( re:crutch )

or why dont you just answer the question ...

Would a "superior" race allow itself to be nearly exterminated ?

xNetworx · 10-25-2005, 12:23 AM

Pretty sure slavery didn't wipe out a huge % of the Earth's blacks. How can you call the holocaust a cruch for Jews? Thats just ignorant. Why are you even on GFY? Shouldn't you be cleaning a gun or screwing a relative?

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

Would a "superior" race allow itself to be nearly exterminated ?

Usually when you have the army under your power, its not hard to wipe out a bunch of a minority.

SmokeyTheBear · 10-25-2005, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by pimpporn

Usually when you have the army under your power, its not hard to wipe out a bunch of a minority

So when an army is "under power?" smart people turn into not so smart people ? im not following your reasoning..

Its a pretty simple yes or no question, your answer seems to suggest smart people would allow themselves to be exterminated under certain circumstances .. maybe we are arguing different meanings of the word "smart"

SmokeyTheBear · 10-25-2005, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by pimpporn

How can you call the holocaust a cruch for Jews?

Your right i was clearly wrong in making that comparison, but it doesnt take away from the fact MANY jews use it as a crutch , as many black people view slavery as a crutch

SmokeyTheBear · 10-25-2005, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pimpporn

Why are you even on GFY? Shouldn't you be cleaning a gun or screwing a relative?

I already cleaned my gun , and i already screwed all your relatives

SmokeyTheBear · 10-25-2005, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by pimpporn

Pretty sure slavery didn't wipe out a huge % of the Earth's blacks.

I'm pretty sure i agree with you

not sure what that has to do with crutched but ..

SilverTab · 10-25-2005, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

Thats exactly what i mean.. the fact you have to label me a racist because i dont agree jews are "smarter" than everyone else.. lol

bingo....

I dont mind jews at all, my father is from a dutch,jewish family....

I just noticed that jews are even quicker than black people to bring out the goold ol' racism card....

If you don't agree with a jew, you are antisemite, and hitler is your friend....as simple as that....

(now call me an antisemite...)

SmokeyTheBear · 10-25-2005, 12:40 AM

LIFE is racist sometimes, to relect on LIFE shouldn't make you a racist. I love jewish people , intersting theories and interesting life, I would save a jew just as fast as i would save my own mother or any other person.. ( cept bulgarians , those assholes can burn in hell )

xNetworx · 10-25-2005, 12:44 AM

Jew are defensive about people being anti semetic because they have been persectued for thousands of years. Its in their blood to be defensive, its instinctive at this point.

SmokeyTheBear · 10-25-2005, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pimpporn

Jew are defensive about people being anti semetic because they have been persectued for thousands of years. Its in their blood to be defensive, its instinctive at this point.

everyone has been persecuted for thousands of years

The Demon · 10-25-2005, 08:07 AM

Without reading any of these post and as a Jew, I would have to say yes...That is why Jews own everything..

dylan4U · 10-25-2005, 08:11 AM

No Germans are. Or Asians

Silent_Thunder · 10-25-2005, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graphical x

It is fake cuz its not based on reality. There's no plan for world domination, etc.

if you knew how to get that, you would surely took the power

Kassidy · 10-25-2005, 08:23 AM

Judaism is a religion, not an ethnicity, for starters. The thing that makes some groups seem 'smarter' than others has more to do with a cultural emphasis on education and hard work leading to success, not genetic qualities.

Silent_Thunder · 10-25-2005, 08:24 AM

Three jews:

Freud, Enstein, Jesus.

All of them were damn clever and innovative. I guess, that jews have some special features.

SilverTab · 10-25-2005, 08:54 AM

Three atheist:

Stephen Hawking, Hubert Reeves, Nietzsche

All of them were damn clever and innovative. I guess, that atheist have some special features.

Fletch XXX · 10-25-2005, 08:59 AM

Three blacks:

Benjamin Banneker, George Washington Carver, Benjamin Carson

All of them were damn clever and innovative. I guess, that blacks have some special features.

It is rare to find a man of the caliber of George Washington Carver. A man who would decline an invitation to work for a salary of more than $100,000 a year (almost a million today) to continue his research on behalf of his countrymen.

Banneker's mechanical and mathematical abilities impressed many, including Thomas Jefferson who encountered Banneker after George Elliot had recommended him for the surveying team that laid out Washington D.C.

Dr. Benjamin Carson has written over ninety neurosurgical publications. He has been awarded 24 honorary degrees and numerous national citations of merit.

Marshal · 10-25-2005, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Are some races/religions/ ethnicities "chosen" or superior?

Such superiority claims may have caused backlash against these groups in the past.

Superiority claims may have even driven opposition maniacs and criminals to try to commit genocide against those groups.

How smart is that?

That's not smart...

They only have great marketing... It seems that there has never been an exile of any other nation... :D

cykoe6 · 10-25-2005, 09:19 AM

Yes we are and what the fuck is up with that Elders of Zion crap?

Brujah · 10-25-2005, 09:25 AM

The article is talking about Ashkenazi Jews.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi

Although in the 11th century they comprised only 3% of the world's Jewish population, today Ashkenazi Jews account for approximately 80% of world Jews..

Descended from the Jewish communities of Germany, Poland, Austria, and Eastern Europe mostly established between the 10th and 19th centuries.

jayeff · 10-25-2005, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Kassidy

Judaism is a religion, not an ethnicity, for starters.

Although your basic point is correct, it is more accurate to refer to Judaism as a culture or something similar. While there is an obvious religious element, Jews believe that if you have a Jewish mother, you are Jewish, whether or not you adhere to their religious beliefs and practises.

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Originally Posted by Kassidy

The thing that makes some groups seem 'smarter' than others has more to do with a cultural emphasis on education and hard work leading to success, not genetic qualities.

That's certainly the politically correct view and given the cultural imperatives and results, not only of (Ashkenazi in particular) Jews but also of Asian immigrants to Europe and North America, it appears to be born out. On the other hand, medical research is regularly adding to the list of things which are programmed into us, that we once believed were acquired. Who knows for sure that "smartness" or something which encourages some people to study will not one day be added to that list.

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graphical x Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 316	Are Jews geneticallly smarter than all other ethncities? Interesting new genetic study says so... http://www.printthis.clickability.co...artnerID=73272 For an environmental/cultural/social/historical alternative to 'genetic' theories (genetic theories scare me!) see: http://www.mugu.com/cgi-bin/Upstream...ve/sowell.html Also, maybe intelligence is a function of historical evolution--many of the groups viewed as 'highly intelligent' were ghettoized and marginalized into occupations that forced them to have strong mental and business skills. Examples: Jews in Europe, Chinese in Southeast Asia, Lebanese in Africa, Asian Indians in Africa and Southeast Asia. These middlemen cultures routinely placed emphasis on education and academic aptitude since their livelihoods were non-agricultural and due to frequent pogroms/expulsions (Chinese were periodically massacred and brutalized in SE Asia as well as Asian Indians) they focused on high intellectual trades and professions (medicine and traders/bankers, etc). I like the latter explanation...not any genetic or hard coded explanations. What do you guys think? __________________ No sigs needed.

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skinnay Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NEW YORK CITY Posts: 2,274	and what he means by a crutch.. like slavery everyone feels bad for a race after something bad happens to them, so people try to help them out of pity or guilt.. but eventually it will wear off and people wont really care anymore __________________ Make Real Green with ORGANIC SEO \| Blog post exchange \| Non-index page trades \| A-B C-D Trades [icq: 194-215-962] [mail: [email protected]]

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xNetworx So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whore Island Posts: 14,445	To answer the question, I have no idea if they are genetically smarter. However, for being a tiny % of the world population, they sure gained a lot of wealth, power and achievment awards. Why do you think the US gives Isreals so much money? They develop advanced war technology for the US, not becuase of some Jewish conspiracy in DC. Last edited by xNetworx; 10-25-2005 at 12:16 AM..

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SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	LIFE is racist sometimes, to relect on LIFE shouldn't make you a racist. I love jewish people , intersting theories and interesting life, I would save a jew just as fast as i would save my own mother or any other person.. ( cept bulgarians , those assholes can burn in hell ) __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

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xNetworx So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whore Island Posts: 14,445	Jew are defensive about people being anti semetic because they have been persectued for thousands of years. Its in their blood to be defensive, its instinctive at this point.

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The Demon Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,336	Without reading any of these post and as a Jew, I would have to say yes...That is why Jews own everything..

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Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	Three blacks: Benjamin Banneker, George Washington Carver, Benjamin Carson All of them were damn clever and innovative. I guess, that blacks have some special features. It is rare to find a man of the caliber of George Washington Carver. A man who would decline an invitation to work for a salary of more than $100,000 a year (almost a million today) to continue his research on behalf of his countrymen. Banneker's mechanical and mathematical abilities impressed many, including Thomas Jefferson who encountered Banneker after George Elliot had recommended him for the surveying team that laid out Washington D.C. Dr. Benjamin Carson has written over ninety neurosurgical publications. He has been awarded 24 honorary degrees and numerous national citations of merit. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

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Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	The article is talking about Ashkenazi Jews. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi Although in the 11th century they comprised only 3% of the world's Jewish population, today Ashkenazi Jews account for approximately 80% of world Jews.. Descended from the Jewish communities of Germany, Poland, Austria, and Eastern Europe mostly established between the 10th and 19th centuries. __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com