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Old 10-24-2005, 07:13 PM   #51
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Old 10-24-2005, 07:50 PM   #52
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unless you're going to be printing billboards... that camera is absolutley useless.... and for all the retards comparing crazy photos to that..you have much to learn... playboy pics shot are one hour behind camera and days behing computer... weak.
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Old 10-24-2005, 07:53 PM   #53
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playboy pics shot are one hour behind camera and days behing computer... weak.
dude, so are matrix...they do the same, if not more, photoshopping to each individual image as playboy and most of the others

see my post on the first page

maybe I should post that image...LOL
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Old 10-24-2005, 07:57 PM   #54
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dude, so are matrix...they do the same, if not more, photoshopping to each individual image as playboy and most of the others

see my post on the first page

maybe I should post that image...LOL


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Old 10-24-2005, 08:41 PM   #55
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"Not impressed - sorry. This is proof that it's not the camera that makes the picture....it's the person behind the camera."

Thats a pretty shitty attitude to spam.
I know for a fact the Matrix photographer can smoke you...

But you are just to stupid to realise that fact.
You might be a little XBIZ nominee right now, but you are no winner.
Mark....I could name a lot of photographers who could "smoke me" - what's your point? I don't look at what I do as a competition so the fact that anyone can "smoke me" doesn't bother me in the least. I have a handful of wonderful clients who love working with me and love my product and yea...I got a little nod from the industry with the XBiz nomination. I'm proud of my work and proud to have been nominated. I can see why you would be sore because you didn't get nominated but taking that out on everyone around you is very immature Mark. And...that temper tantrum that you threw a few weeks back really showed me (and everyone else) how immature you really are. You cried like a little baby because you weren't recognized for all your great contributions to the industry. Well man, with an attitude like yours.....who is surprised? You can't open your mouth without offending someone and/or calling them names. How do you expect to be honored and respected for your contributions when your mostly known for being a prick?

Marky, from now on brotha'...I'm just going to ignore everything you do and say. I don't have any patience for little keyboard warriors like yourself. If you want to argue or debate something with me then grow the fuck up and we'll get it on. Acting like an immature crying little bitch gets you nowhere with me.
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Old 10-24-2005, 08:55 PM   #56
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Not impressed - sorry. This is proof that it's not the camera that makes the picture....it's the person behind the camera.

Here's a few pics of Pornstar Jesse Jane shot by Stephen Wayda @ Playboy using that same camera:





Very Nice
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Not a bad model, although I'm not a fan of fake boobs.

From a technical view, hafta' agree with others who said the face has too much yellow hue...and overall the pics are slightly overexposed...and the background setting is <yawn>...boring (sorry).

I'd take the output from a $2k dslr in experienced hands over that of a $12k hasselblad in the wrong hands.

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Wow that is an awesome shot..
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Old 10-24-2005, 09:12 PM   #58
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Dean...

You do not even know me.
Yet ya use my name. Hilarious.
Look.
Ya came in with a bad attitude and basically called Matrix a no talent act.
Thats not classy dude, and it is far from the high road you are trying to take at this point.

Let me quote you again.

"Not impressed - sorry. This is proof that it's not the camera that makes the picture....it's the person behind the camera."

Now unless my interpretation of what ya said is wrong ya essentially called them untalented and yet not even relate to technique, but "The Person" behind the camara.

That is without taste nor class.
You're better than that and saying such of folks that paved the way for quality content on the internet, ya got a big set of ball's or you are just stupid.


Which is it?

I been inside there section, they are shooting almost daily to at least 3 days a week. Some great stuff in there. Maybe ya should buy some respect for yourself and critique the work rather than calling a photographer more or less untalented.

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Old 10-24-2005, 09:14 PM   #59
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Old 10-24-2005, 09:17 PM   #60
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Dean...

You do not even know me.
Yet ya use my name. Hilarious.
Look.
Ya came in with a bad attitude and basically called Matrix a no talent act.
Thats not classy dude, and it is far from the high road you are trying to take at this point.

Let me quote you again.

"Not impressed - sorry. This is proof that it's not the camera that makes the picture....it's the person behind the camera."

Now unless my interpretation of what ya said is wrong ya essentially called them untalented and yet not even relate to technique, but "The Person" behind the camara.

That is without taste nor class.
You're better than that and saying such of folks that paved the way for quality content on the internet, ya got a big set of ball's or you are just stupid.


Which is it?

I been inside there section, they are shooting almost daily to at least 3 days a week. Some great stuff in there. Maybe ya should buy some respect for yourself and critique the work rather than calling a photographer more or less untalented.

you're wasting your time... some just don't get it and will never learn
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Old 10-24-2005, 09:25 PM   #61
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Alien someone posts look at this pic shot with a Hasselblad H1D and the photo is weak what do you expect as this is GFY. If people dont want comments they shouldnt post pics on GFY. Dean is a great guy and a extremely talented photographer. Once again you dont have a clue what you are talking about.
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Alien someone posts look at this pic shot with a Hasselblad H1D and the photo is weak what do you expect as this is GFY. If people dont want comments they shouldnt post pics on GFY. Dean is a great guy and a extremely talented photographer. Once again you dont have a clue what you are talking about.
Wrong. I know exactly what I am talkin about LOL
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i agree with what a couple of other guys said, as i was thinking the same thing


the equipment isnt as important as the person operating it

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Wrong. I know exactly what I am talkin about LOL
ok you know it all we know nothing. lol
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"Dean is a great guy and a extremely talented photographer."

Then maybe he should act like one.
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nah man, there would be no reason for me to drag that pic out except to make the person that shot it look like total shit

but trust me, this pic was shot by one of the leading photographers in the industry, in a set, with tons of lighting and 3 hours of makeup....and the only reason you would even know it was one of matrix's shots, is because you would have seen it in their catalog....it is a horrible shot...and without photoshop it would have never been used by anyone for content...it is flat out horrible

trust me, matrix is 10% photography skills and 90% photoshop skills
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Then maybe he should act like one.
He did he wasnt nasty or mean spirited at all, your the one over reacting I guess you have some need to suck matrix's dick.
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He did he wasnt nasty or mean spirited at all, your the one over reacting I guess you have some need to suck matrix's dick.
Let me quote em again.

"Not impressed - sorry. This is proof that it's not the camera that makes the picture....it's the person behind the camera."


Nah thats not nasty at all...
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Dean...

You do not even know me.
Yet ya use my name. Hilarious.
Look.
Ya came in with a bad attitude and basically called Matrix a no talent act.
Thats not classy dude, and it is far from the high road you are trying to take at this point.

Let me quote you again.

"Not impressed - sorry. This is proof that it's not the camera that makes the picture....it's the person behind the camera."

Now unless my interpretation of what ya said is wrong ya essentially called them untalented and yet not even relate to technique, but "The Person" behind the camara.

That is without taste nor class.
You're better than that and saying such of folks that paved the way for quality content on the internet, ya got a big set of ball's or you are just stupid.


Which is it?

I been inside there section, they are shooting almost daily to at least 3 days a week. Some great stuff in there. Maybe ya should buy some respect for yourself and critique the work rather than calling a photographer more or less untalented.
Mark,

Anybody who comes to this board bragging about their product being shot with a $20,000 camera and then posts pictures that look like that....needs to hear the truth. Unlike you, I'm not going to blow smoke up their ass and tell them how great their work is when it looks like shit. I have an opinion and like you...I have the right to say it. Maybe you don't agree with my opinion and that's fine with me but as you can tell there are many other here who do.

This has nothing to do with competition or who is better than who or who can "smoke" who. If they had posted some great work that was shot with that camera I would have been one of the first to congratulate them on doing a great job. But instead, they post pictures that look like they came out of a Walgreens brand point-n-shoot digital recyclable paper camera and expect us to be impressed because they were shot with a $20,000 camera? Are you impressed by that Mark? I'm not...sorry. I'm also sorry if you were offended by my statement.... "This is proof that it's not the camera that makes the picture....it's the person behind the camera." Anybody with any knowledge of photography would know that this statement is 100% true.

I have mad respect for Matrix for what they've accomplished over the years but even the best companies can't stay on top forever. There was a time when their material was the shit but lately things have gone downhill. Even your buddy abyss_al thinks so.

Lastly Mark, you posted in one of your earlier posts that perhaps the photog just had a bad day and that's why the pictures look like crap. Hey, if anyone can relate to that...it's me. Actually, anybody who strives to do good creative work on a consistant basis can relate to that statement. We've all been there. But I don't think this is the case with these images and if it were, Asher should never have posted those pics bragging that they were shot with a $20,000 camera. This is GFY and if your going to post pictures here, you'd better be ready to take the negative as well as the positive
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Let me quote em again.

"Not impressed - sorry. This is proof that it's not the camera that makes the picture....it's the person behind the camera."


Nah thats not nasty at all...
No Mark, it's not nasty IMHO. I could have said that the pictures look like shit and that the photographer should get a job at McDonalds....now THAT would have been nasty. That sounds like something that YOU would have said. Asher comes here bragging about this $20,000 camera and then proceeds to show us some pics from that camera that looked like doo-doo. He should expect to get some negative feedback - and he did

I get negative feedback all the time when I post pics but you don't see me crying to my mama about it do ya'? You and Al seem to be the only ones with a problem here - WTF?
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calling mark childish... and 'this is wasting my time'... yet you have the time to look for that post... WOW

like i said... some people have MUCH to learn, and sadly they never will..

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calling mark childish... and 'this is wasting my time'... yet you have the time to look for that post... WOW

like i said... some people have MUCH to learn, and sadly they never will..

I always have stuff to learn Al.....I love learning. Interesting that some people think they know everything already - I get a kick out of people like that
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This has turned into quite a funny thread. Not one time in this thread did I say that we here at matrix content have PERFECTED the hasselblad H1D. Obviously since we have shot on film through out our existance, it will take some time for us to get it down, the same way we had shooting on film down. The point was just to inform you "people" that we are shooting on the Hasselblad, but why would I expect anything different from, keyboard warrirors, out to make their miserable little lives more interesting by hating on people who are far more successful and skilled than they would ever hope to be...........
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This has turned into quite a funny thread. Not one time in this thread did I say that we here at matrix content have PERFECTED the hasselblad H1D. Obviously since we have shot on film through out our existance, it will take some time for us to get it down, the same way we had shooting on film down. The point was just to inform you "people" that we are shooting on the Hasselblad, but why would I expect anything different from, keyboard warrirors, out to make their miserable little lives more interesting by hating on people who are far more successful and skilled than they would ever hope to be...........

nothing wrong with the camera.... but dont you think its a bit too high of res/mpxl for what you guys do? thats mainly for billboards and very large print..
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nothing wrong with the camera.... but dont you think its a bit too high of res/mpxl for what you guys do? thats mainly for billboards and very large print..
Thats mainly what it is for, I do not think they would use the instrument for web photos only. Really I doubt it.

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I sometimes cringe at the amount of "airbrushing" Matrix do, but on the whole I'm a fan of their content. It seems odd they chose pics to show off their new camera that aren't up to their usual standard, but the color balance, brightness and contrast all seem off to me.
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Please name 3 peoples that posted in this thread as as "Keyboard Warrior" that ANYONE from Matrix Content is more successful than.
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Unfortunaely those aren't the greatest Pics. Dean is 100% right.
Matrix has sold a lot of content and has done it very well and filled a niche with a good photographer and some great photoshop people. Unfortunately from what i hear it isn't the same as it use to be there too bad...but still criticising another photgrapher is petty. Especially after you see how much of Matrix's content is out there.
Deans photography is some of the best I have seen around here.
Another note too I have seen alien's photography and it is agreat too. you have a good eye. I just wish you would get some more Models to shoot...ha ha.
Basically this just abunch of bruised egos over the years of competition and really to be truly sucessful I think a little humility and positivity would help.
On another point Asher if you guys buy a new 20k back for your camera you better make sure the pics are awesome, unfortunaely they aren't your regular stuff you guys shoot. anyway carry on nothing to see here folks.
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I don't get it.. you're shooting MF and have non square frames..
are you really shooting with the blad?
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This has turned into quite a funny thread. Not one time in this thread did I say that we here at matrix content have PERFECTED the hasselblad H1D. Obviously since we have shot on film through out our existance, it will take some time for us to get it down, the same way we had shooting on film down. The point was just to inform you "people" that we are shooting on the Hasselblad, but why would I expect anything different from, keyboard warrirors, out to make their miserable little lives more interesting by hating on people who are far more successful and skilled than they would ever hope to be...........

wow, i would expect NOTHING LESS than that unprofessional response from a SHITTY company that makes their dime off a shitty photographer who has a TEAM of photoshop experts to make her work look better than anything she could ever shoot

fuck you, you fucking sellout chump pieces of shit

I am FAR from a keyboard warrior

the ONLY ONLY ONLY reason you all have made it as far as you have is QUANTITY, not quality....you have access to every single new and old pornstar instantly, plus you have the money to do so. Anybody that had a little bit of money and at least a little bit of talent with a lens could smoke matrix in a heartbeat

you wanna bring shit into this and call people names? I will bring out that SHIT SHIT SHIT that robbeye shot, which PROVES SO FAST that the matrix photographers are total crap and the only reason anyone buys that shit is because of the photoshoppers

so, when someone calls your shitty photographer out for doing shitty phototgraphy, don't get all high and mighty....they are only calling it like they see it
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Old 10-25-2005, 12:56 AM   #85
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i guess I should find out if robbeye was still working with matrix before I jump to conclusions....well?

either way, if they hired robbeye in the first place, chances are they filled her position with a photographer on the same level
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Old 10-25-2005, 02:24 AM   #86
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Unfortunately the pictures are gone so I can't comment on them. But some things are coming through very clear.

This is a porn board and the quality of photography rarely gets a guys dick hard. It's the quality of the porn doing that and if you don't understand that you need to learn it fast.

A $12,000 digital camera is worthless for the big paying section of the porn photo market. For that you need film as the big buyers do not buy much on digital. Many reasons and if you do not know then again go learn if you want to sell to that market.

A market that returns $4,000 for a solo girl set as a norm.

When I want real quality I shoot on film because it will be a long time before a $12,000 digital camera replaces a $200,000 drum scanner.

The great thing about the pictures in this thread is not the camera, it's the lens and the lighting techniques.
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Unfortunately the pictures are gone so I can't comment on them. But some things are coming through very clear.

This is a porn board and the quality of photography rarely gets a guys dick hard. It's the quality of the porn doing that and if you don't understand that you need to learn it fast.

A $12,000 digital camera is worthless for the big paying section of the porn photo market. For that you need film as the big buyers do not buy much on digital. Many reasons and if you do not know then again go learn if you want to sell to that market.

A market that returns $4,000 for a solo girl set as a norm.

When I want real quality I shoot on film because it will be a long time before a $12,000 digital camera replaces a $200,000 drum scanner.

The great thing about the pictures in this thread is not the camera, it's the lens and the lighting techniques.
very true
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Unfortunately the pictures are gone so I can't comment on them. But some things are coming through very clear.

This is a porn board and the quality of photography rarely gets a guys dick hard. It's the quality of the porn doing that and if you don't understand that you need to learn it fast.

A $12,000 digital camera is worthless for the big paying section of the porn photo market. For that you need film as the big buyers do not buy much on digital. Many reasons and if you do not know then again go learn if you want to sell to that market.

A market that returns $4,000 for a solo girl set as a norm.

When I want real quality I shoot on film because it will be a long time before a $12,000 digital camera replaces a $200,000 drum scanner.

The great thing about the pictures in this thread is not the camera, it's the lens and the lighting techniques.
As always, and I'd go on the line saying those photos weren't shot on a blad anyhow.
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This has turned into quite a funny thread. Not one time in this thread did I say that we here at matrix content have PERFECTED the hasselblad H1D. Obviously since we have shot on film through out our existance, it will take some time for us to get it down, the same way we had shooting on film down. The point was just to inform you "people" that we are shooting on the Hasselblad, but why would I expect anything different from, keyboard warrirors, out to make their miserable little lives more interesting by hating on people who are far more successful and skilled than they would ever hope to be...........

so that means that when someone orders content from you now, you promise to try the best to learn to work with the camera first? and what would be the purpose of posting pics that you think are not perfect? you announced you'll shoot with that camera weeks ago - so in my eyes that's just a spam thread going wrong. and obviously you realized that and took the pics down.
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It has been proven that the canon 1DS mark 2 take better pictures that the digital Hassy does, this is a article from a well know photographer who dumped his hassy gear for the better (imho) Canon 1ds mark 2.

From Hassy to Canon
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so that means that when someone orders content from you now, you promise to try the best to learn to work with the camera first? and what would be the purpose of posting pics that you think are not perfect? you announced you'll shoot with that camera weeks ago - so in my eyes that's just a spam thread going wrong. and obviously you realized that and took the pics down.
i don't get that either...why post pics if you knew they weren't the best? that would be like me posting a design to show how awesome it was, when the design was only a sketch...LOL
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She looks great, and I would hit that. But not from you guys.

Thanks.

They don't like when we point out that they are assholes.:

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This has turned into quite a funny thread. Not one time in this thread did I say that we here at matrix content have PERFECTED the hasselblad H1D. Obviously since we have shot on film through out our existance, it will take some time for us to get it down, the same way we had shooting on film down. The point was just to inform you "people" that we are shooting on the Hasselblad, but why would I expect anything different from, keyboard warrirors, out to make their miserable little lives more interesting by hating on people who are far more successful and skilled than they would ever hope to be...........

really unproffesional response there.
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Interesting. While I don't claim to have any superior knowledge of anything regarding photography, I did have an interesting conversation with a good friend of mine who's in charge of most all the coloring done at this little mainstream company. The convo was basically about the fact that shooting in HD is a very expensive proposition, mostly due to the amount of work and post production it takes to make it worth the use of the cameras. Makeup artists are also partly to blame since things that work normally, well, apparently even a minor difference in coloring between the makeup and the flesh shows up clearly... lighting is more critical as well from what he tells me.

I dunno if he knows what he's talking about though, he's only been with Technicolor for 22 years.
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Interesting. While I don't claim to have any superior knowledge of anything regarding photography, I did have an interesting conversation with a good friend of mine who's in charge of most all the coloring done at this little mainstream company. The convo was basically about the fact that shooting in HD is a very expensive proposition, mostly due to the amount of work and post production it takes to make it worth the use of the cameras. Makeup artists are also partly to blame since things that work normally, well, apparently even a minor difference in coloring between the makeup and the flesh shows up clearly... lighting is more critical as well from what he tells me.

I dunno if he knows what he's talking about though, he's only been with Technicolor for 22 years.
Ask him again after 25 years. A good photographer should know if the makeup or lighting isn't working in the shots...and should take steps to rectify it. If my product looks like shit, its my fault, not the makeup artist or the lighting person.

That said, there is very little that can't somehow be improved on in post-edit with regards to color and hue correction. As I often shoot in available lighting...I'm always dealing with different lighting temps, unusual shadows and motion blur - and seldom do I end up with a photoset that I can't salvage in one way or another.


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Interesting. While I don't claim to have any superior knowledge of anything regarding photography, I did have an interesting conversation with a good friend of mine who's in charge of most all the coloring done at this little mainstream company. The convo was basically about the fact that shooting in HD is a very expensive proposition, mostly due to the amount of work and post production it takes to make it worth the use of the cameras. Makeup artists are also partly to blame since things that work normally, well, apparently even a minor difference in coloring between the makeup and the flesh shows up clearly... lighting is more critical as well from what he tells me.

I dunno if he knows what he's talking about though, he's only been with Technicolor for 22 years.
Shooting in HD or with the Hass?

For web use, I would put my 20D up against any camera around. I think Dean made great points and I think he always seems to offer up great photography advice; all backed up with excellent work. Fact is, you shouldn't ask for opinions if you don't like hearing the negative ones.

That HB is great if you are looking to do heavy print work, no doubt. But even 8mp can suffice for magazines, etc.
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