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Old 03-09-2002, 12:13 PM   #1
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:mad Fucken robbers stole my whole website

This fucken guy stole OUR design from www.teenagepink.com
He stole all of our members section movies that we shot for the site and images.
Check it out
http://www.teenage-pink.com
( that was our first design)

Check out his FUCKENbanner farm
http://www.teenage-pink.com/banners/index.html

Check out ours
http://www.teenagepink.com/banners/index.html

What a fucken asshole.
How do I shut this guy down
I want to go knocking on his door.
Can anyone get me his address?
He has a fucken rude surprise comming his way
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Old 03-09-2002, 12:19 PM   #2
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Your options:

1. Try this website: http://www.lawrencewalters.com/
Explain your situation there.

2. Do a whois on the website that stole your design. You should get a phone number & you could talk to that person.

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Old 03-09-2002, 12:26 PM   #3
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Old 03-09-2002, 12:26 PM   #4
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:mad

Thanks.

I hold all the rights to the stuff.
Fuck. I shot half of those girls in my own studio.

It's past that here is his address if anyone else has had problems with him.
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Old 03-09-2002, 12:35 PM   #5
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Well, first of all make sure YOU own the site design, and not the web artist who designed it. I'm not an attorney, but using photography as an analogy, merely paying for creative work is not enough to own it, unless there is a contract where the artist gives up copyright, or unless the artist voluntarily surrenders the ownership of the design to you in writing.

Of course, if you designed it yourself, then you are home free on that score. If not, you might have more success pursuing a fraud claim, if they are clearly posing as you.

Like I said, I'm not an attorney, but speaking as someone who sells creative work to people who usually don't understand copyright law very well, that is how it strikes me.

If I do exclusive photo work for someone, it technically continues to belong to me until I cede ownership to them, because most of this work is done without a formal written contract. Of course, I'd never take advantage of this fact (or I'd get a bad name in the business), but these are the legal facts as I understand them.
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Old 03-09-2002, 12:44 PM   #6
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Shit, that prick has balls of steel. It never ceases to amaze me how fucken incredibly stupid some of the scammers can be...
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Old 03-09-2002, 12:46 PM   #7
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damn paolo!

just signed up to promote ur fucking awsum teensite!

[i can see why some1 would copy it )

actually he could get in the slammer for a few months for gaining illegal access to ur members section.... have some1 buttfuckk him wile he's locked up

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Old 03-09-2002, 12:47 PM   #8
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Well.
I am going to pay his ass a visit in Holland.

If that does not work I will ping his server with so many fucken hits it will crash and it will never rise again.

Guys like that just screw shit up in this business


Any sugestions besides the legal part on how to deal with this pin head.

I know I am overly pissed, but I shot most of this stuff and payed too much just to have someone rip it off
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Old 03-09-2002, 12:48 PM   #9
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thats is a nice site
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Old 03-09-2002, 01:10 PM   #10
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thats is a nice site
That is a nice site... but back to the point,
it has happend to us as well ( recently )
we decided to go the legal way, just getting
our attorney to translate the first letter into
german.

It sux bigtime when that happens hope
it all works out for you.
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Old 03-09-2002, 01:17 PM   #11
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I have never heard of that billing company.

Check if the billing company is legit, if it is contact them, give them enough proof he is gone and they will freeze his account, you may be able to recover that frozen amount later.

If its not a legit billing company he is trying to steal cc #, call da F B I.

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Old 03-09-2002, 01:17 PM   #12
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That is a nice site... but back to the point,
it has happend to us as well ( recently )
we decided to go the legal way, just getting
our attorney to translate the first letter into
german.

It sux bigtime when that happens hope
it all works out for you.
happened to me before, too...

but a warning was enough, I dont really like law suits anyway.
and that guy even sent me the traffic from the site he copied to my , the "original" site because he was so scared

I remember my lawyer said something about translation, too..
not sure why, but I think the law is like "if they cant read it, its not their fault" or so

what a stupid rip off - I really hope you nail that guy
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Old 03-09-2002, 01:18 PM   #13
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Ya I have a pretty good internet attorney as well.

I kind of like the old fashion way
He is just some fucken loser jerken off in his apartment somewhere


Here is his address I believe.

Anyone live close to this fuck.
Pay him a visit.
I would be grateful $$$$

His info

Marcus de Jong
Hoofdenburg 97
Ouderkerk a/d IJssel, Zuid-Holland 1232 ZZ
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Old 03-09-2002, 01:20 PM   #14
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If that does not work I will ping his server with so many fucken hits it will crash and it will never rise again.
I'm on your side but this was just funny...please explain me how you do this...?

Kick his ass! Good site btw

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Old 03-09-2002, 01:21 PM   #15
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Try contacting his credit card processor with your information and see what happens

Something like
" your client bla bla bla... has stolen copyright images and design from us, we ask that you suspend credit card processing from this site, or risk involving yourself in upcoming legal action"

Pay your lawyer to send it to them then send the cc processor a registered letter stating the same

That sould do the trick, unless the cc processor is in on it
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Old 03-09-2002, 01:26 PM   #16
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Old 03-09-2002, 01:27 PM   #17
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Here is how you do it.

I have 5 raid five servers.
"Each one has duel processors and five scuzzy hard drives( built for speed)"

I just load his info on all my servers
I also have some friends willing to help on theres
Then send like 10,000,000 fuckien hits a minute over his way in Holland untill the server crashes.
Never ending hits to
He will never be able to restore it without changing his ip.


Maybe he will get the message then
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Old 03-09-2002, 01:48 PM   #18
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This fucken guy stole OUR design from www.teenagepink.com
He stole all of our members section movies that we shot for the site and images.
I'm really sorry to hear that, Paolo. The higher you climb, the more vigilant you have to be. But you have enough friends here to deal with this. And if that fails, let the lawyers have at him.
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Old 03-09-2002, 02:03 PM   #19
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Thanks man.

Ok enough said about this.

It will be all over in the next day or two.
I will take him out one way or another.

He just better wish that "another" is not me flying to Holland for his ass.

Thanks all
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Old 03-09-2002, 02:20 PM   #20
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Here is how you do it.

I have 5 raid five servers.
"Each one has duel processors and five scuzzy hard drives( built for speed)"

I just load his info on all my servers
I also have some friends willing to help on theres
Then send like 10,000,000 fuckien hits a minute over his way in Holland untill the server crashes.
Never ending hits to
He will never be able to restore it without changing his ip.


Maybe he will get the message then
Better be carefull if his server happens to be in the US you could get 10 years for that shit.
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Old 03-09-2002, 02:26 PM   #21
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I dont think its illegal to link to someones website

even if you link to someones website alot.
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Old 03-09-2002, 02:28 PM   #22
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Better be carefull if his server happens to be in the US you could get 10 years for that shit.
His server is in a data center in New Jersey.
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Old 03-09-2002, 02:32 PM   #23
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If it's hosted or billed by companies that are DMCA, then you simply need to notify them with the correct affadavits and he'll be down or the copies will within a day or two at most.

All US billing and hosting companies are DMCA and some additional countries comply as well --

As for the 1x1 sized presents, they are nice but you're apt to get in more trouble than not. Either for what could be a couple of different legal issues, or the guy may have more traffic than you and end up turning it back on you.

Think about, get a clear head, and see what you can come up with Paolo
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Old 03-09-2002, 02:51 PM   #24
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Thanks Kimmy
Kev and I will see you April 4th
Lets all slam a shot together for your billing company.
A good one to. You guys are all stand up people

To all. Thanks for the advise.
I am just hot as hell right now.
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Old 03-09-2002, 03:06 PM   #25
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Hmmm I would solve that with ipchains and you'll be bashing to /dev/null

Good luck though....if it doesn't work hit me up on ICQ and I have
some other ideas for you :D

In all seriousnes this sucks I really hope you get him down fast!

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Old 03-09-2002, 04:54 PM   #26
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Serious man, I know you are pissed but don't attack his server with 10 million hits a minute or whatever. Doing that could put you in trouble as well. Handle this the legal way!!!
If you don't want to go the legal route, then fly to Holland and kick some ass j/k. It would really suck if this guy rips your page + you end up in trouble for some DOS attack.

Start to notify his host & CC processor. I have a feeling the site will be shudown in good time without the need to force it offline.
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Old 03-09-2002, 05:06 PM   #27
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I'm not sure that the guy has any traffic but you can surely seize the url from him. You may end up getting some extras out of it
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Old 03-09-2002, 05:59 PM   #29
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Paolo,

1. I would noty know why anybody would copy your site, as you give away so much VERY NICE free content to use for promotion;
2. His address is less than 30 minute drive for me. Now, I am a descent guy so I will not pay him a visit for you, but we might be able to work something out.
Contact me: 125586484
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Old 03-09-2002, 06:10 PM   #30
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Second thought, I believe I DO know him.... if I am right we have had problems with him also.. researching (browsing archives, posting dutch forums) right now.
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Old 03-09-2002, 06:22 PM   #31
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I will take him out one way or another
Remember to make it look like an accident

He must be a really stupid person if he thought nobody would find out, such people make me want to ...
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Paolo I can see why he picked your site to steal from it is amazing!!! I just signed up to your affiliate program as well, dam if I cant convert traffic to that tour I am going to give up!!!

Send this letter to his billing agents, he will be shut down in 24 hours:

Dear Sir,



I am writing to advise you of an infringement of my copyright on the website http://www.teenage-pink.com/ which is using you for credit card billing services.



Images used on the front page of the website, preview pages and webmaster banners all belong to myself.


The owner of http://www.teenage-pink.com/ does not have my permission to use this material.


I hereby state that I have a good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of is not authorized by me, the copyright owner, its agent, or the law.



I hereby state, under penalty of perjury under the laws of the United States, that the information in this notification is accurate, and under penalty of perjury, that the complaining party is authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is being infringed as set out in this notification.



I would be grateful for any assistance that you can offer in this matter.



Yours Faithfully,



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Shit happens,

I hate when it happens to me... Well it never happend like this though...

Attorneys are bullshit. Just a big waste of time (at least a month).

I saw iframe his site and kill his bandwith... Always works in warez so it should work in porn too...

They will never win in court against you for the iframing...

What will they say? Umm... we stole this guys design and he iframed us... Hmm..?

Btw nice site i signed up about a month ago but didnt start pushing it yet (comp problems.)

Well,

Good Luck
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Naughty.
I believe that this guy has done it to others before.
He probably needs a good ass kicking.
I would not expect you to do it.
Just tell me where he lives.
I know a few good old boys I can send over.
Teach him a lesson that his daddy should have taught him a while ago.

Thanks to all you guys again
This board rocks.

I agree that Lawyers and Lawsuits are a waste.
I should have the cc processor hold his funds and pass it out to the guys promoting the site.

Thats a good fucken idea.
If there is any money being made from this fuck.
I will try to get his processor to hold his funds. I am passing those out the funds evenly to everyone who is pushing traffic.
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05818764972 (FAX) 05818764972
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Old 03-09-2002, 08:10 PM   #38
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Hire the Scotish!
They will go over in boats and drag him from his home and beat his ass!

Ive heard the Scotish are mean and would take boats to the Netherlands just to Fight!

Hire them!
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Old 03-09-2002, 09:19 PM   #39
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You know when I read things like this, I realize how important it is to copyright graphical works. I've been working on my designs as well, and already I'm worried about being ripped off, because peeps wanna steal. Then again I shouldn't be surprise, it is the Internet.

Oh yeah Paolo, whoever designed the site did a great job yo!!

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Old 03-09-2002, 09:27 PM   #40
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Someone copied my whole site once and all it took was a nasty letter from my lawyer (me) to get him to take it down.

It's worth a try.
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Old 03-09-2002, 09:30 PM   #41
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Actually if he is in Preston in the UK I can get him seriously fucked and I mean proper fucked...it is 3 hours drive from me but only 30 minutes from my mates in Manchester...

Seriously though just send that text I wrote above to his billing company and he will be gone in 24 hours.

BTW Boneprone..ICQ has totally fucked on my PC I am just using MSN Messenger if you want to hook up with me just search for Krome email [email protected]
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Old 03-10-2002, 09:03 AM   #42
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GOT THE FUCKER TAKEN DOWN
Look at the fricken response that guy gave.
Like I believe him
NOW HE WANTS ADVISE

hi.
"We are sorry for inconveniences caused by our site. We just want to let you
know that we bought design for teenage-pink.com and exclusive-teen section
for xxl.com from a company that specializes in content for adult pay sites.
We have removed all content that violates copyright.


ps. We need a high-quality design just like teenagepink.com for xxl.com.
Would you please tell us who designed your site? And do you sell
exclusive content?"


After that, I stll think a good assbeating would serve him right.
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Old 03-10-2002, 09:15 AM   #43
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Well maybe it was not him that actually did it..if he brought a turn key solution then it could actually be him and you that was ripped off. him with his expense you with your content...he has taken it down, so why not contact the design company he quoted...failing that I will kick his arse anyway!!
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Old 03-10-2002, 09:17 AM   #44
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Kinda quick to take it down if they bought it in good faith?

WhatEVER.
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Old 03-10-2002, 09:53 AM   #45
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Hire the Scotish!
They will go over in boats and drag him from his home and beat his ass!

Ive heard the Scotish are mean and would take boats to the Netherlands just to Fight!

Hire them!

HAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAAA!!!

The site's down, BTW, so somebody sorted something... Good work.
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Old 03-10-2002, 06:15 PM   #46
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It doesn't matter who he bought it from, if he bought it or how he happened to have it on his server. If its' a copy, he's busted, period.

I'd keep an eye on him Paolo, as well as going to the web site of whatever design company did this "for" him, and seeing if they've done any other sites the same favor ;)
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Old 03-10-2002, 08:27 PM   #47
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hahaha... steal his domain and redirect traffic to yours...
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Old 03-11-2002, 06:31 AM   #48
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For future reference you can now dispute domains legality and get them taken down by using the following.

<a href="http://registerfly.com/info/dispute.php" target="dispute"><font color="#80ff80">ICANN DISPUTE POLICY</font></a>

I got this link from registerfly, but most reputable domain registrars follow this practice and have a dispute TOS policy on signing up for a new domain name also

Your copied members section is much less use when you can get back all of the stolen traffic by forcing this domain name to be transfered to your company/yourself for little more or less than a standard domain registration

You now say you've got the site shutdown... So now dispute the domain name and help prevent this name being used again to steal your traffic, while also getting back some of what should be rightfully yours in the traffic that already goes to the domain name he registered that is yours but with hyphen.

Hope this helps for now and for anyone elses future reference

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