wtf.....not again

Someone need to be REALLY retarded to work with you again. :1orglaugh

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OMG dude ... lol
If you knew how to do it right ... you'd be making money ...

OK - to be fair, JoJoJo finished 1 or 8 domains...I'm still skepical, but would loved to be proven wrong by the guy.

I usually stay out of these threads BUT jojojo you have no examples of your work. Posting "clients" sites is meaningless, we have to assume the owners practiced link building and most the other techniques valueble to rankings with or without your help.

Also, joggs and roccos....why do they NEVER jump in here to agree its YOU who gained them those spots?

Post one of your own urls thats listed (or referal code) and maybe some will drop the crusade.

#1 for "handjobs" dude I know what I'm doing.

2. 2hrs of formal teaching + ongoing support - $500 - this is for people who know the basics, have tried seo but arent

Uhm i paid this guy $500 and he got me a site to pr7 and alexa in the 300,000's and i made my money back in 2 weeks, i dont think talking to you can give me a marginal cost of more than $500

It funny the paid sponsor for that keyword is the same site.... DOH, thats a waste of money.

Um if you cant do the work right how are you gonna teach anyone else?

I mean lets face it here bud you aint off to a good start. Seriously if you have all
this knowledge of the se's you should be making some serious coin. Not siting here looking for students to repay back others. Now its obvious others went for your pitch or you would not be back here.

You smell fishy dude and i aint tryin to be a dick. Just callin it like i see it. :2 cents:

you're an seo expert but you can't make money? ok then. you should be making good money if not great money and if you're not you are not qualified to teach things you don't know well enough about.

50.........

I've explained this many times. I sold all my sites years ago and have been doing consulting teaching FOR people for a while now. I am currently working on my own sites and once they are doing well I won't be teaching anymore. I have posted here many times to get students and have taught many people now - all happy.

call me crazy... but how can you be a search engine expert and be broke?

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edit: guess i am not the only one who found that to be a little comical.

Has anyone here paid this guy?

read the replies from happy students.. plenty of testimonials in this thread.

damn, did you make any money yet?

instead of people paying me, i just offer my services for free :1orglaugh

Right.... link exchanges maybe, or ah, someone to tell me how to make one of my 100 shitty websites convert would work too :P

ahh, there are TONS of places looking to hire people with SEO skills. Six figure here in LA, dunno in BC tho.

Listen to me dude, don't talk about ranking a site first in 90 days and not expect people to bitch at you, sanbox???? do you kno what is that???
haha idiot

Simple to avoid, begin with an existing "older" site. That should go without saying.

Also..he has stated many times its for msn and yahoo...there is no such thing as a sandbox when working with them.

This guy has been begging me for the past months to get his class for $1000.00. I avoided it, because if he was a true SEO guy, he wouldn't be begging for work. Top SEO experts are making big $$$$ and they don't have time to teach people. They never beg for work, clients go to them, it sounds very fishy, and sounds like he is unsagacious.

IMO this is what I see a lot (but not meaning this guy is, but who knows...)

Situation #1
Someone just went to Barnes and Nobles and bought a large coffee and picked up SEO for Dummies and read the first 3 chapters. Immedately, they become and "SEO Expert" and pay to join wmw and post about their extreme seo knowledge and how you should cram your site with meta tags and tons of links.

Situation #2
someone has a site reg'd for a few years, and decides to make some simple changes they saw on a forum. add some alt tags, title tags and what do you konw, they are now ranked for some BS. instantly, they quit their job working at burger king and drop their resume to all teh seo firms within a 30 mile radius

Situation #3 (my favorite)
you know a friend, or someone did some seo work for your site. you see what the chages are, and then think you can get people to pay you for those. post all over the net and pay $200 bucks for a shitty website saying you are an "SEO Expert" and "SEO Certified"


I see this crap all the time. i get phone calls and emails from "SEO Firms" wanting to seo my sites. here is the simple truth... I DONT HAVE TIME TO DO MY OWN SITES, FUCK OFF

Anyone can be an seo expert because there is no certification. the only half ass attempt at an seo test is from www.expertrating.com Ive actually had clients ask "are you seo certified?" because shitheads claim they are.

My FREE SEO GUIDE (not really free)

1. read SEO for Dummies (good book actually)
2. Read Google Hacks
3. Start making chages to your own site and see if they work

SEO forums IMO are junk (most of them) because they are all people who just read one book, or glazed over another forum.

anyway, im going to drink now!

Yahoo and MSN is fairly easy to spam. Especially MSN.
Google is harder. At least through unconventional methods.
We just lost 50k google traffic in 24 hours :/
Maybe jojojo took it from us!

Thats because MSN & Yahoo dont care about reg time, unlike google. Google should because they do 80% of web traffic everyday (i.e. google, aol, askjeeves, blah blah blah)

you can also pay to be in yahoo's results (SHHHHHH :winkwink: ) look around, im sure you will find out where to send your money. Google on the other hand, not a chance.

um yeah... Yes I said I don't need the fucking money right away because its fucking 500 bucks. but how long was that in the past now
6 months or even a year?
did you think I was putting up links for free?
don't write about me like that... seriously
old ass links ... you gotto be kidding me

In your defense, anyone can use some extra money. I just had to pay an insane amount to fly my girl back and forth for a family emergancy on the other side of the country. Then, I have to shell out a ton of cash for her to rent a car and all. needless to day, even tho i make a bit of lo0t, i could use an extra bump in the bank

tons of haters on this board.

I have top 10 spots - some I have had for years.

I have many happy students I have taught and many references.

Hit me up :)

I don't care about the SEO services for sale but I call bullshit on the PR7 domain. I don't think you have a clue how hard it is to get to a PR7, especially in adult (where PR is capped). Would love to see this site, but have a feeling it won't be shown.

We're haters, because you can't make money yourself with seo. You're begging people for money, so you can teach them SEO. Make some sense you clown!

a BROKE SEO?

come on man, at least smooth out the scam lines here, think it through


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I'm a clown? You are the one that has charged people to do work for them claiming you can get their sites high in the SE's and then came to me to teach you. Pursuing you and offering you deals isn't begging - I'm just following up on my sales leads call it what you want.

For the last comment - let me reiterate a few things:

1. I have examples of top ranked sites for very competitive terms - ie: #1 for handjobs.
2. I have testimonials from happy students I have taught posted in this thread and lots of references.

The reality is that whoever hires me to teach them will be happy and they are taking advantage of a great opportunity. I definitely know how to get top spots and I won't be offering these services for much longer. I have taken everyone's advice and I am working on my own sites.

So lets cut the shit. My results speak for themselves and I have plenty of references I can provide - is that how scammers operate? get real. take advantage of my knowledge while you still can.

exactly!
everyone really good at SEO will never need to make money by teaching other people....

um hello? I have top ten spots - they are posted in this thread like #1 in Yahoo for handjobs etc...the question of whether I am GOOD at seo or not should not be in question.

The reason I teach it is because consulting/teaching has been my only income since I sold my sites a few years ago and got lazy and decided to consult - now I only teach because this way clients are guaranteed an ROI and everything doesnt hinge on 1 site's success.

The content of what I teach is well worth the price - ask any of my students and do the math.

No, he does NOT deliver what he promises. And he's a bullshit artist at getting himself more time, which then he won't follow through on.

And Jojojo, you better pay ME first before you pay anyone else, that's just really fucking scummy otherwise.

And not all your debts are SEO related?? Your debts are already in 5 digits with "people" and high 4 digits of that that I know of (just under 5 digits) are SEO related; you have more debt than that? That's scary and bad.

WiredGuy knows more detail likely than any client Jojojo will ever get or hear; people can scam some, and not scam others. So far, he's scamming me and also owes Trax money; and as WiredGuy I believe said, is using new clients to pay off old debts ---

Actually, I haven't seen a penny, so he's not paying off debts.

So, please do continue to be his clients, so if in the past 10 months [yes, that long I have given him since he should have contractually given me my money back] he hasn't saved up enough to pay me, then at least I'll know collection's agency will have things to take from him.

He messaged me on the 21st telling me to message him. Him messaging me means nothing though, as he's done so before and said he'd pay me back before.

If I haven't received the first payment that I'm requesting from him [giving him a few multiple payments still] by the 28th (October 28th, this coming Friday; it's currently Sunday) then I'll start my process.

Jojojo he / you will pay up, whether I end up with a computer / anything with value which is sold by court order or not pay, is his decision; 8+ months of LEEWAY TIME is plenty of time especially with all of these "happy" clients posting; it's not hard to figure out, or even for me to have asked them what they've paid you.

1) I haven't been paid. It's been far too long; PAY ME or a collection's agency will be coming.

2) You've breached and broken our contract multiple times, and didn't perform along the terms of our contract, which seal you from speaking about it.

3) Trax still hasn't been paid

4) It's obvious that you're bringing in the money to be able to pay people back.

5) You're lucky you haven't fucked over some mobster guy or you would probably be worrying a lot more, or maybe would actually have paid them money owed.

Actually, I will give you a call now to let you know I am waiting for you to message me.

Matt

You know Mike, this is great information for knowing you're bringing in money, and purposefully not paying off debts to show your wilfully not paying back money owed which is causing increasing damages as you don't pay.

Matt

Time to clear this fucking shit up.

#1 yes I owe trax $500 for something non seo related - he said don't worry pay me later when we do more biz - we never did. He has asked me for the money and had requested a special form of delivery. Then changed it to another kind... I will be paying him back as soon as I have $$ in my epass account.

#2 Stupid me I decided to sign your fucking bullshit contract which gives you absolute power over the entire deal. Regardless of the performance of the project which had limited success. I don't now and won't be able to pay you the amount you are talking about by the specific time.

#3 The income I get from teaching people pays my bills and other debts I haven't been in a position to pay the amount in question.

At the end of the day you will get your money one way or the other because of your bs fucking contract.

#4 All of my students are very happy and the information is well worth it.

So really you have just posted this here to try and bash me and make me out to be a scammer but you can't... you see its real simple:

1. I have top ten spots right now.
2. Everyone I have taught is happy.
3. Everyone who has paid me for teaching has been taught.
4. The price of my course is well worth the money.

I am not a scammer - I have a few disappointed clients like you and an old debt - trax.

Again this is another reason I only teach the information how to get top rankings now - so I don't have to deal with this fucking bullshit anymore. You take the info and go build 10+ sites - some will do well and you will make $$ - I won't have to be dragged to court because the project wasn't 100% success.

I can do better :thumbsup

all of the lessons can easily be found on any SEO site.

You wouldn't have paid your debt to him if he didn't have a contract?

jesus christ, i can't believe people fall for this dudes shit time after time!

hEY jO - did you get around to those other 4 domains yet?