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Old 10-21-2005, 11:40 AM   #1
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I so pissed off when I see this shit!!!

Sites like this, afa.net, American Family Association. Uggh, these fucking people are such sheep that follow this shit! I had a friend of my Mom's email me this link from there: Gay Games . And she is really going to fucking do what they say to do. Fucking lemmings. Why in the world can't people just think for themselves?

Also, I love this quote from the Extreme Assoc. Case : For that reason, the FRC spokesman says, "we have to watch and pray for this case very closely."

How about I start praying to God for the other case to go the other way, and we'll see who's prayers are answered first.

I am for one, going to be visiting this site often, as well some other far right, religious sites, so I can keep a watchful eye on the idiots that are pushing to create new legislation to ruin our rights.
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Old 10-21-2005, 11:40 AM   #2
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most people are idiots and sheep...if it werent for them...wed be nowhere
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Old 10-21-2005, 11:48 AM   #3
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There were a lot of disturbing statments in that. Like saying that the judge thinks obesnity is legal. The judge does not think that it is legal, but you can not make it illegal wothout viloating the rights of people that do not feel that material is obscene.
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Old 10-21-2005, 12:31 PM   #4
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Here's something fun: After I read the AFA site, I get an newsletter email from the FSC, let's compare...shall we...:

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Legality of Obscenity at Center of Smut Case Appeal

By Allie Martin
October 20, 2005

(AgapePress) - An attorney with the Family Research Council (FRC) says a case before the Third U.S. Court of Appeals could have a big impact on obscenity laws nationwide.

Two years ago, California-based Extreme Associates and its owners Robert Zicari and Janet Romano were indicted by the Department of Justice for selling videos with brutal and graphic depictions of sexual violence. However, earlier this year -- in a blow to the government's renewed crackdown on extreme, hard-core, violent porn -- U.S. District Judge Gary Lancaster threw out those indictments, ruling that the government's ban on distribution of obscenity violated the public's constitutional rights to possess such material.

The pro-porn attorney had argued that if individuals were unable to purchase the material, "there really is no right. In order to be able to possess it, I need to be able to buy it."

This week, lawyers for both sides argued the case before a three-judge panel of the Third Circuit Court of Appeals in Pittsburgh. Pat Trueman, legal counsel for FRC, says the case is another example of judicial activism.

"Congress has said that distribution of obscenity is illegal," Trueman points out. "[But] this judge [Lancaster] says obscenity should be legal. Unfortunately he has that power, even though it's an abusive power, and we hope the three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit will agree with previous rulings of the Supreme Court of the United States that obscenity is properly illegal."

Trueman, who expects a ruling by next spring, contends the outcome of the case could have far-reaching implications. "[This] could have a very big impact," he says. "If this kind of material is legal, anything is legal."

And what will happen if the case is appealed even further? Truemen issues a warning. "There are members of the United States Supreme Court, like Ruth Bader Ginsburg -- former general counsel to the American Civil Liberties Union -- who would gladly rule that all obscene material is legal in America," he states.

For that reason, the FRC spokesman says, "we have to watch and pray for this case very closely."

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EXTREME ASSOCIATES APPEAL FOCUSES ON MORALITY
PITTSBURG, PA -- The government has presented its arguments here to a panel of the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in an effort to reinstate obscenity charges against Extreme Associates and the company?s owners Rob Black and Lizzie Borden. U.S. District Judge Gary Lancaster dismissed the 10-count indictment against the defendants in January. The government later appealed the decision in what has become a highly controversial national test case.

?The nation?s obscenity laws cannot stand in light of Lawrence,? Lancaster wrote, referring to Lawrence vs. Texas (2003), the case in which the Supreme Court struck down a Texas anti-sodomy law. The Lawrence decision, Lancaster said, ?can be reasonably interpreted as holding that public morality is not a legitimate state interest sufficient to justify infringing on adult, private, consensual, sexual conduct even if that conduct is deemed offensive to the general public?s sense of morality.?

U.S. Attorney Mary Beth Buchanan?s view is the polar opposite of Lancaster?s. "Morality is at the basis of all our laws," she told the three-judge appeals panel. The government will continue to pursue regulating obscenity and its proliferation in order to protect children, unwitting adults, morality, public safety and societal order, she said.

Buchanan conceded that individuals have the right to possess obscene materials at home, but told the panel that there is no right to receive or distribute obscenity. She outlined First Amendment decisions by the U.S. Supreme Court dealing with the concept that obscenity is not protected by the First Amendment.

Extreme Associates attorney Louis Sirkin responded that the case was not a First Amendment liberty interest challenge. In Lawrence, he said, the Supreme Court had protected the privacy of individuals from unwarranted intrusions into their bedrooms. All of the First Amendment obscenity cases cited by Buchanan, he explained, had referred in some way to public display of the material, whereas the case at hand involved material that was seen only by the sender and the receiver, both of whom knew exactly what they were getting.

The issues in this case are starkly drawn. Sirkin?s arguments are based on privacy grounds. In the Extreme Associates case the defendants had established a sufficiently reliable method to prevent exposure to children and unwilling adults by means of credit card subscription. After Lawrence -- absent exposure to children or unwilling adults -- there is no legitimate government interest in protecting public morality.

Mark Kernes, in a first-hand report, says statements during the 50-minute hearing were compelling. He says the high drama left even observers fatigued. In a follow-up Adult Video News report, Kernes provides extended quotes from First Amendment attorneys present at the hearing.
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Old 10-21-2005, 01:19 PM   #5
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youre a heathen

may jesus save your morality deprived soul.

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whats funny is shits like these have been ranting forever and never make a fucking dent in society nor have changed a god damn thing - theyre misguided unbalanced zealots who are viewed by most people in this country as fringe idiots.
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Old 10-21-2005, 02:34 PM   #6
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But now they want to go save the kids!

I am such a heathen too!
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Old 10-21-2005, 09:38 PM   #7
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wow.. those Gay Games.. so offensive..
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Old 10-21-2005, 10:02 PM   #8
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bahh for me gay games at start is such a stupid thing call that a party and am gonna be ok with it

but making it like some kind of sport achivement to win one of the pseudo-sport they usualy play there is non sence

wtf they not able to get into compitition against evrey other humain??? they realy need help whit get an proper identity??? like i got nothing against black white indian chinese and evrey other kind of bug roaming around but fuck i hate when people get into comunauty apart from the world

that what usualy start incomprehension and warz

what i fucking hate that if heteros like me have the fucking same comportement in street that they have that not will take 3 second that iv got 2 or 3 process for nudity in public, sexual harassement, and be classified as a dengerous horny beast that we need cut the dick asap

sorry bout english mystake, i not speak it
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Old 10-21-2005, 10:13 PM   #10
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Old 10-21-2005, 11:25 PM   #11
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Old 10-22-2005, 06:37 AM   #12
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I don't understand groups like this. Nothing is a threat to their family but themselves.
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Old 10-22-2005, 06:50 AM   #13
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I don't understand groups like this. Nothing is a threat to their family but themselves.
I spoke with one of my attorney friends yesterday about AFA, and she said that they are one of the worst groups around. All they do is spew lies and misinformation. Kinda like my site! So you can imagine the amount of crap they spew to all these born-agains christians. And they take it as gospel. Sorry no pun intended.
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Old 10-22-2005, 06:54 AM   #14
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