This is shocking to say the least, why not go after things that are actually illegal and wrong...I mean wtf...

Then I'd suggest at this point you take it up with NCFS and call them out on the validity of their press release. In fact, I'd be interested in hearing what they say. I quite agree that much of it is worded the same as the Washington Post article - but NCFS would have to be accountable for what they're currently reporting.

And while I also agree there are some folks in the industry proclaiming "The sky is falling" - there is ample evidence these days to suggest times are a-changing and we'd all do well to stand on guard in defense.


SilentKnight

O rly? LOL The logic in this industry is amazing. Hello.

The FBI goes worldwide these days to pick up Felons. Don't assume your safe by being outside the US if you are selling this type of content to US citizens.

If you are making money from the US illegally they will come and get you with the exception of the handful of countries that won't allow their citizens to be extradited.

Here are Canada's extradition treaties.

# Bilateral Treaties Involving International Extradition

* Originally signed December 3, 1971
* Entered into Force March 22, 1976
* Exchange of Notes signed June 28, 1974; July 9, 1974
* Exchange of Notes Entered into Force March 22, 1976
* Supplementary signed January 11, 1988
* Supplementary Entered into Force November 26, 1991
* Supplementary signed January 12, 2001


# Bilateral Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty (MLAT) in Criminal Matters

* Originally signed March 18, 1985
* Entered into Force January 24, 1990


# Convention for the Suppression of Unlawful Seizure of Aircraft (Hague)

* Opened for Signature December 16, 1970
* Entered into Force for the United States October 14, 1977


# Convention for the Suppression of Unlawful Acts Against the Safety of Civil Aviation (Montreal)

* Opened for Signature September 23, 1971
* Entered into Force for the United States January 26, 1973


# Protocol for the Suppression of Unlawful Acts of Violence at Airports Serving International Civil Aviation (Montreal)

* Opened for Signature February 24, 1988
* Entered into Force for the United States November 18, 1994


# Convention Against Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances (Vienna) (1988 Vienna Drug Convention)

* Opened for Signature December 20, 1988
* Entered into Force for the United States November 11, 1990


# Protocol Amending the Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs, 1961 (1972 Protocol to Single Convention)

* Opened for Signature March 25, 1972
* Entered into Force for the United States August 8, 1975


# Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Crimes Against Internationally Protected Persons, Including Diplomatic Agents (United Nations)

* Opened for Signature December 14, 1973
* Entered into Force for the United States February 20, 1977


# International Convention Against the Taking of Hostages (United Nations)

* Opened for Signature December 18, 1979
* Entered into Force for the United States January 6, 1985


# Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment (United Nations)

* Opened for Signature December 10, 1984
* Entered into Force for the United States November 20, 1994


# Convention on the Physical Protection of Nuclear Material (United Nations)

* Opened for Signature October 26, 1979
* Entered into Force for the United States February 8, 1987


# Convention for the Suppression of Unlawful Acts Against the Safety of Maritime Navigation (Rome)

* Opened for Signature March 10, 1988
* Entered into Force for the United States March 6, 1995


# Protocol for the Suppression of Unlawful Acts Against the Safety of Fixed Platforms Located on the Continental Shelf (Rome)

* Opened for Signature March 10, 1988
* Entered into Force for the United States March 6, 1995


# Inter-American Convention Against Corruption (O.A.S.)

* Signed by the United States June 2, 1996
* Entered into Force for the United States September 29, 2000


# Convention on Combating Bribery of Foreign Public Officials in International Business Transactions (O.E.C.D.)

* Signed by the United States December 17, 1997
* Entered into Force for the United States February 15, 1999


# Inter-American Convention Against Illicit Manufacturing of and Trafficking in Firearms, Ammunition, Explosives and other Related Materials

* Signed by the United States November 14, 1997


# Inter-American Convention on Mutual Assistance in Criminal Matters

* A party to the treaty as of January 29, 2002


# Agreements Regarding Mutual Assistance Between Customs Services

* Originally signed June 20, 1984
* Entered into Force January 8, 1985


# Securities Enforcement Memorandums of Understanding and Agreements

* Originally signed December 9, 1991


# Bilateral Commodities Futures Trading Memoranda of Understanding

* Originally signed May 30, 1995


# Multilateral Commodities Futures Trading Memoranda of Understanding (As of January 1, 2001)

* Amended March 1998


# Income Tax Treaties

* Originally signed September 26, 1980
* Entered into Force August 16, 1984
* Originally signed March 17, 1995
* Entered into Force November 9, 1995
* Originally signed November 9, 1995
* Entered into Force December 16, 1997


# Agreements on Seizure, Forfeiture and Sharing of Criminally Derived Assets (As of January 1, 2001)

* Originally signed March 22, 1995


# Bilateral Treaties Involving International Prisoner Transfer

* Originally signed March 2, 1977
* Entered into Force July 19, 1978


# Convention on the Transfer of Sentenced Persons

* Originally signed March 21, 1983
* Ratified on May 13, 1985
* Entered into Force September 1, 1985


# Inter-American Convention on Serving Criminal Sentences Abroad

* Originally signed July 8, 1994
* Instrument of Ratified Deposited June 4, 1995

To look up your countries extradition treaties:

http://www.usextradition.com/extradition_main.htm

:)

You can't be extradited to the US for doing something that isn't illegal in the country they're trying to extradite you from.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

as i said, US laws are shit... sorry, for this... :(

holy crap...this is getting insane

So you're trying to say that if an American purchases adult content (that is considered illegal or obscene in the U.S.) from a legal Canadian source - the Canadian can be charged under U.S. law?!?!?!?

Cha'...that'd I'd like to see.

If the U.S. gov't doesn't want what they perceive to be illegal content coming in to the country, its their job to stop it at customs. Despite their enormous collective ego and thinking the world revolves around them...U.S. feds can't impose their domestic laws on other sovereign nations.


SilentKnight

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feel the love its thick

http://vikingphoenix.com/photos/gall...terrorists.jpg

OK, you better let the Feds know about that cause I don't see any Americans on their most wanted poster.

And terrorism is legal in which countries again?


SilentKnight

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www.chamberofchains.com

i feel bad for all the content prod. & paysite owners in this niche..

BS - youre just falling for the same hype that been going around our industry for the last 8 years - While I know the NCFS organization is a good org and not trying to dis them at all by this - I dont agree with all these idiots posting shit over here as if its brand new stuff - and Im sorry if you take everything that you read out there as fact - but its good to research stuff before posting it - otherwise you tend to cause other people to think that what you are posting is facts - and more importantly contribute to that "times are a -changin" lie - although it was a great song :)

crap crap ....

I agree with yout assessment. The United States of Amerika can only continue with a Balkanization.

I will take up arms and fight for the cause, will you?

Take a moment and support your 1st Amendment organizations: IFA, FSC, EFF, ACLU, People for the American Way, VSDA, etc.

Don't be totally passive. Do something positive for yourself, your business, your customers, and the USA as a whole.

Awareness is only the first step in achieving change for the better.... Start educating yourself on issues of importance to you, your freedoms, your life.

It has been said, "Every journey begins with a first step."

Its so sad , so much money in our business and most webmasters are so tight with a dollar.If it doesnt effect them at that minute or there is a path of less resistance (aka paying for patent licenses) or if it doesnt show off wealth they wont do it. Thats why its so easy to beat us up as a group.

100...........

You really are either " blinded " by your false pratriotism , or simply a pure idiot! :2 cents:

Still is the key word here :winkwink:

We have an obligation to expand the minds of the morally smug.

My name is George W Bush.

Thank you for your past and continuing support.

I am working at getting around that constitution thing so that you can continue to support me in 2008!

:helpme

It must be great to have your finger on the pulse of all that is factual in the media while the rest of us grunts are merely content to wallow in the mire of half-truths and sensationalistic journalism.

Like I said in a prior posting - if you take exception to NCFS's latest release - take it up with them. I didn't write the fucking thing...but merely reposted it here...for everyone's perusal and interpretation. Contact Susan Wright directly yourself and take it up with her. 917-848-6544.

You can go on believing that things are still the status quo in the industry. That's your choice. I could care less.


SilentKnight

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Stop it. It's illegal... :2 cents: