Another victory for OCCash (stats) - GoFuckYourself.com

xxxjay · 10-16-2005, 02:04 PM

My boy Q'on from Onprobation just started publishing his stats and they are quite brutal. It's good to see OCCash make anoter top 10 with the big guys:

Read this - it's an eye opener:
http://board.getpaidbaby.com/viewtopic.php?p=3177#3177

The stats:
http://blog.onprobation.com/sponsors...september.html

Juicy D. Links · 10-16-2005, 02:06 PM

Jay post yout tattoos

sfera · 10-16-2005, 02:07 PM

quite interresting

Jman · 10-16-2005, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

Jay post yout tattoos

Quick Juicy as the lub out and is holding his fleshlight

Pipecrew · 10-16-2005, 02:08 PM

very nice, good work!

xxxjay · 10-16-2005, 02:11 PM

I'm just glad we didn't make this list:

Scam Programs
some programs are just straight scams. they leave the signup links open & program software active but they don't track signups nor will they pay you for any of the traffic you send their way... they won't notify you of any of this either. i found 5 programs recently while looking thru my directory. all of them are scams, none of them pay & i guarantee with a little research you'll find they are owned by "trusted" members of the adult online biz community. here's my list (feel free to add yours to this thread):

funkycash - does not pay, does not report traffic sent or signups
adult cash flow - does not report traffic sent or signups
dc cash - does not report signups; redirects traffic
capital bucks - does not report traffic sent or signups
dirty dollar - does not pay
adult cash - does not pay, did not report site closings
pib cash - does not report signups (of course)

sites that i believe shave:
epic cash
platinum bucks
gammacash
adult revenue service
meatcash
vouyeurcash
stoneycash
dollar machine
gigacash
niche wealth
adult players club
hpic
porn kings
nasty dollars

jawanda · 10-16-2005, 02:12 PM

i love stats

congrats on making the top 10 jay.

-P

devilspost · 10-16-2005, 02:17 PM

Mother FUCK this thread has some serious potential.

congrats on the stats Jay.

Sly · 10-16-2005, 02:19 PM

Interesting.

One thing that I've noticed myself adds to what Q mentioned. I send joins to maybe 10-20 different programs a month. There are 3 programs that I can always depend on to pull the same numbers month after month: Skin Traffic, BangBros Online, and Fetish Bucks. If I send X amount of hits, I know I'll get X amount of sales, EVERY month. All of my other programs bounce around, up and down, regardless of how much additional traffic I send them.

OldSchoolJim · 10-16-2005, 02:29 PM

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All of my other programs bounce around, up and down

This is also due to the fact that larger programs rotate in new processors every few hours throughout the day...there are more answers to every question...other than just saying a sponsor shaves....kind of ridiculous if you ask me....

Sly · 10-16-2005, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2getit

This is also due to the fact that larger programs rotate in new processors every few hours throughout the day...there are more answers to every question...other than just saying a sponsor shaves....kind of ridiculous if you ask me....

I didn't say anything about shaving. Nor do I even care. :-)

Sly · 10-16-2005, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2getit

This is also due to the fact that larger programs rotate in new processors every few hours throughout the day...there are more answers to every question...other than just saying a sponsor shaves....kind of ridiculous if you ask me....

But now that you mentioned it, what do rotating processors have to do with monthly changes in joins from the same traffic?

Juicy D. Links · 10-16-2005, 02:32 PM

I predict over/under 4 pages of mad views

OldSchoolJim · 10-16-2005, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

I didn't say anything about shaving. Nor do I even care. :-)

Yes..Sly..you did not...just getting a head start on the ones that will! afterall..this IS gfy!

OldSchoolJim · 10-16-2005, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

But now that you mentioned it, what do rotating processors have to do with monthly changes in joins from the same traffic?

If you worked with different processors you would know this...you cannot tell me CCBILL and PAYCOM use the same type of scrubbing techniques?

just an example....I will bet if you send the same traffic to the same site and rotate these 2 processors you will see a major difference....

Sly · 10-16-2005, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2getit

If you worked with different processors you would know this...you cannot tell me CCBILL and PAYCOM use the same type of scrubbing techniques?

just an example....I will bet if you send the same traffic to the same site and rotate these 2 processors you will see a major difference....

I am fully aware of the differences within different processors. I will ask again, what does rotating processors have to do with the MONTHLY changes in sales with the same traffic? Are you saying in August you switched processors but in September you didn't?

Daily changes, sure, I can see that easy. But monthly? One would hope that the good days would help even out the bad days, making the monthly joins relatively similar.

mn · 10-16-2005, 02:42 PM

Very interesting read!

BTW, he is correct on many of the programs he think shaves (I wont name the ones I know because I don't have time to sit here for days defending myself), so instead I post about one of the sponsors I know he is wrong about. ARS (adult revenue service) didn't shave anything (at least not me and lots of freiends) during the years I used them. Every time I suspected it I did serveral signups, they All got credited Every time. (Of course they got emails every time once it was credited so they could deduct it from my earnings.)

pornguy · 10-16-2005, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay

I'm just glad we didn't make this list:

Scam Programs
some programs are just straight scams. they leave the signup links open & program software active but they don't track signups nor will they pay you for any of the traffic you send their way... they won't notify you of any of this either. i found 5 programs recently while looking thru my directory. all of them are scams, none of them pay & i guarantee with a little research you'll find they are owned by "trusted" members of the adult online biz community. here's my list (feel free to add yours to this thread):

funkycash - does not pay, does not report traffic sent or signups
adult cash flow - does not report traffic sent or signups
dc cash - does not report signups; redirects traffic
capital bucks - does not report traffic sent or signups
dirty dollar - does not pay
adult cash - does not pay, did not report site closings
pib cash - does not report signups (of course)

sites that i believe shave:
epic cash
platinum bucks
gammacash
adult revenue service
meatcash
vouyeurcash
stoneycash
dollar machine
gigacash
niche wealth
adult players club
hpic
porn kings
nasty dollars

I am pretty sure that ALL of the big programs shave..

OldSchoolJim · 10-16-2005, 02:44 PM

Quote:

MONTHLY changes

There are a LOT of factors that are at work throuoght a month....and i am not saying you are wrong..i am simply pointing out the fact that most people immediately point to shaving before taking into account other issues simply to drive drama.....that is all...

OldSchoolJim · 10-16-2005, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Of course they got emails every time once it was credited so they could deduct it from my earnings

Of course!

mn · 10-16-2005, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2getit

just an example....I will bet if you send the same traffic to the same site and rotate these 2 processors you will see a major difference....

No you wont. A difference probably, but not a major difference. If we are talking about epoch vs ccbill with default settings or same settings on both of them by the program owner.

bdld · 10-16-2005, 02:50 PM

OC Cash does a consistant 1:350 for me. first page hits.

potter · 10-16-2005, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2getit

If you worked with different processors you would know this...you cannot tell me CCBILL and PAYCOM use the same type of scrubbing techniques?

just an example....I will bet if you send the same traffic to the same site and rotate these 2 processors you will see a major difference....

I still don't fully understand what you are trying to prove. So are you saying the change in sales is because the processor shaves? Not even to say they shave - they might just have a shittier way or tracking and loose sales. I'm not trying to put blame on anyone. I'd just like to understand your explanation a little better here.

So If I'm using SOMECASHPROGRAM.COM and consistantly about make 35 sales a month. When suddenly my sales start to look like this monthly.
Jan 36
Feb 28
Mar 35
Apr 23
May 36
Jun 26
Jul 37

Your explaination is that the cash program might be switching processors month to month. Like so, using (ex

ccbill jan, mar, may, jul and paycom feb, apr, jun (or vise versa - I'm just making an example).

So what you're saying is the processors is the one with skim/loss of sales, and not the cash program? Or can you get a little more indepth in your explanation please?

emthree · 10-16-2005, 03:09 PM

Mad views placement

OldSchoolJim · 10-16-2005, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Or can you get a little more indepth in your explanation please?

All i am really saying is that there are more factors than just a program shaving...everyone is always quick to holler shave....there is just too many variables to take into account than just shaving....if you do not think so you are in the wrong biz...there is connectivity..server downtime...whatever....just variables...

Jan 36
Feb 28
Mar 35
Apr 23
May 36
Jun 26
Jul 37

And i am saying YES these could be normal fluctuations in traffic....could be ANYTHING that may produce a difference...not just the fact that you believe a program shaves....

Here are some stats from a site I run for MYSELF...using paycom as the LONE processor....

Monday 1:1127
Tuesday 1:959
Wednesday 1:1149
Thursday 1:942

These are 4 days THIS week...maybe PAYCOM is shaving me...all my traffic is consistent...all from the same source...

Get the idea?

FootLoose · 10-16-2005, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by potter

I still don't fully understand what you are trying to prove. So are you saying the change in sales is because the processor shaves? Not even to say they shave - they might just have a shittier way or tracking and loose sales. I'm not trying to put blame on anyone. I'd just like to understand your explanation a little better here.

So If I'm using SOMECASHPROGRAM.COM and consistantly about make 35 sales a month. When suddenly my sales start to look like this monthly.
Jan 36
Feb 28
Mar 35
Apr 23
May 36
Jun 26
Jul 37

Your explaination is that the cash program might be switching processors month to month. Like so, using (ex

ccbill jan, mar, may, jul and paycom feb, apr, jun (or vise versa - I'm just making an example).

So what you're saying is the processors is the one with skim/loss of sales, and not the cash program? Or can you get a little more indepth in your explanation please?

That website listed a bunch of programs that the Individual believes shave. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. I only see one program rep (epiccash) in this thread defending his program while others who know they do not shave, do not need to bother.

Mpegmaster · 10-16-2005, 03:22 PM

I see DUKEDOLLARS.COM up there ;)
I like the fact that Duke has some of the best Hardcore content out there on the Net

And as the top guns would CONTENT MATTERS ;)

My favourites like Occash....topbucks.....all there ;)

Occash gives me some of the best rebills out there! Keep it up Jay

OldSchoolJim · 10-16-2005, 03:23 PM

Quote:

I only see one program rep (epiccash) in this thread defending his program while others who know they do not shave, do not need to bother.

Maybe if you did not have your head in your ass you would know i am not a rep....why not get yourself another fake nick...that movie sucked anyways.

bigdog · 10-16-2005, 04:24 PM

wonder what brad shaw thinks of Q's comment on that board

mn · 10-16-2005, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdog

wonder what brad shaw thinks of Q's comment on that board

Hmm does he have any other adult program besides siccash? I don't see them mentioned at all...

SomeCreep · 10-16-2005, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay

I'm just glad we didn't make this list:

Scam Programs
some programs are just straight scams. they leave the signup links open & program software active but they don't track signups nor will they pay you for any of the traffic you send their way... they won't notify you of any of this either. i found 5 programs recently while looking thru my directory. all of them are scams, none of them pay & i guarantee with a little research you'll find they are owned by "trusted" members of the adult online biz community. here's my list (feel free to add yours to this thread):

funkycash - does not pay, does not report traffic sent or signups
adult cash flow - does not report traffic sent or signups
dc cash - does not report signups; redirects traffic
capital bucks - does not report traffic sent or signups
dirty dollar - does not pay
adult cash - does not pay, did not report site closings
pib cash - does not report signups (of course)

sites that i believe shave:
epic cash
platinum bucks
gammacash
adult revenue service
meatcash
vouyeurcash
stoneycash
dollar machine
gigacash
niche wealth
adult players club
hpic
porn kings
nasty dollars

haha, that dude certainly is blunt.

Nicky · 10-16-2005, 04:40 PM

nice, OCCash is good shit

SomeCreep · 10-16-2005, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mn

Very interesting read!

BTW, he is correct on many of the programs he think shaves (I wont name the ones I know because I don't have time to sit here for days defending myself), so instead I post about one of the sponsors I know he is wrong about. ARS (adult revenue service) didn't shave anything (at least not me and lots of freiends) during the years I used them. Every time I suspected it I did serveral signups, they All got credited Every time. (Of course they got emails every time once it was credited so they could deduct it from my earnings.)

I did the same kind of test with ARS and was not credited for my signup. That was the reason I stopped promoting them years back.

mn · 10-16-2005, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep

I did the same kind of test with ARS and was not credited for my signup. That was the reason I stopped promoting them years back.

Thats interesting. Did you save everything including the cookie and confronted them with your evidence?

If so, what did they tell you?

Odie · 10-16-2005, 04:46 PM

congrats Jay!

TheSenator · 10-16-2005, 04:48 PM

Is that a new board?

that is some good reading... "Why Do They Shave?"

SomeCreep · 10-16-2005, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mn

Thats interesting. Did you save everything including the cookie and confronted them with your evidence?

If so, what did they tell you?

It's a long story. It was very clever the way I was not credited for the signup. It involved an error at the time my credit card was being processed, yet the signup still went through, only I was not credited for it.

No, I did not confront them about it, because I did not have the time to spend debating with them over 1 signup. I'm glad I pulled all their links, because a few months later, they pulled all their sites.

Major (Tom) · 10-16-2005, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mpegmaster

I see DUKEDOLLARS.COM up there ;)
I like the fact that Duke has some of the best Hardcore content out there on the Net

And as the top guns would CONTENT MATTERS ;)

My favourites like Occash....topbucks.....all there ;)

Occash gives me some of the best rebills out there! Keep it up Jay

People need to recogize...
we dont advertise, we dont skin boards... why? we dont need to!!! Good content combined with good support will convert. People really need to start checking us out

Duke

TheSenator · 10-16-2005, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

People need to recogize...
we dont advertise, we dont skin boards... why? we dont need to!!! Good content combined with good support will convert. People really need to start checking us out

Duke

ssshhhhh

bigdog · 10-16-2005, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mn

Hmm does he have any other adult program besides siccash? I don't see them mentioned at all...

he mentioned executive stats brad's affilate software

HollywoodChris · 10-16-2005, 06:55 PM

As always Q'on - Mad respect for ya! Glad you gave us a shot and if you need anything please let me know... I have a plan to make that ratio even better too. I'll hit you up about it.

-Chris

10-16-2005, 07:03 PM

Glad to see us holding strong at #2!

nice list.. Thanks for linking to this Jay. Some interesting stuff over there.

Wiggles · 10-16-2005, 07:24 PM

i see danza is back again haha

Persignup Qon · 10-16-2005, 07:54 PM

wow.... didn't expect this to get posted here... but i'm glad more eyes are on it. our industry needs an overhaul

..

DirtyDanza · 10-16-2005, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiggles

i see danza is back again haha

I never left

Major (Tom) · 10-16-2005, 08:29 PM

thats a very interesting list. We were surprised to even be on it, let alone #2.

Thanks for the oppurtunity.
Duke

llporter · 10-16-2005, 08:40 PM

I am not sure about all the accusations you make about shaving xxxjay. The one thing I do know is that I am making some real nice $$ with adult players club. I am converting at 1/183. With that ratio I don't give a fuck if they are shaving. 1/183 and that is on PPS getting $35 per sale!

VeriSexy · 10-16-2005, 08:44 PM

That looks like a great read, nice stats page

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-16-2005, 08:48 PM

Oh snap!

September Hall Of Shame (conversion worse than 1:1500)
Epic Cash .02/unique 1:1566

bangman · 10-16-2005, 08:49 PM

That accusation is so ridiculous that I'm not even going to start anything up with Persigup Qon -- he can think we shave all he wants.

10-16-2005, 02:04 PM	#1
xxxjay Tube groupie. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: LoScandalous, CA Posts: 13,482	Another victory for OCCash (stats) My boy Q'on from Onprobation just started publishing his stats and they are quite brutal. It's good to see OCCash make anoter top 10 with the big guys: Read this - it's an eye opener: http://board.getpaidbaby.com/viewtopic.php?p=3177#3177 The stats: http://blog.onprobation.com/sponsors...september.html __________________ http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

10-16-2005, 02:11 PM	#6
xxxjay Tube groupie. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: LoScandalous, CA Posts: 13,482	I'm just glad we didn't make this list: Scam Programs some programs are just straight scams. they leave the signup links open & program software active but they don't track signups nor will they pay you for any of the traffic you send their way... they won't notify you of any of this either. i found 5 programs recently while looking thru my directory. all of them are scams, none of them pay & i guarantee with a little research you'll find they are owned by "trusted" members of the adult online biz community. here's my list (feel free to add yours to this thread): funkycash - does not pay, does not report traffic sent or signups adult cash flow - does not report traffic sent or signups dc cash - does not report signups; redirects traffic capital bucks - does not report traffic sent or signups dirty dollar - does not pay adult cash - does not pay, did not report site closings pib cash - does not report signups (of course) sites that i believe shave: epic cash platinum bucks gammacash adult revenue service meatcash vouyeurcash stoneycash dollar machine gigacash niche wealth adult players club hpic porn kings nasty dollars __________________ http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

10-16-2005, 02:17 PM	#8
devilspost Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tampa yomebe -at- hotmail Posts: 3,980	Mother FUCK this thread has some serious potential. congrats on the stats Jay. __________________ Brothels and Escorts Worldwide.

10-16-2005, 02:19 PM	#9
Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,321	Interesting. One thing that I've noticed myself adds to what Q mentioned. I send joins to maybe 10-20 different programs a month. There are 3 programs that I can always depend on to pull the same numbers month after month: Skin Traffic, BangBros Online, and Fetish Bucks. If I send X amount of hits, I know I'll get X amount of sales, EVERY month. All of my other programs bounce around, up and down, regardless of how much additional traffic I send them. __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. Click here for more details.

10-16-2005, 03:09 PM	#24
emthree Dialer Kingpin Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New York Posts: 10,816	Mad views placement __________________ • Sell Patches & Pills •

10-16-2005, 02:06 PM	#2
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	Jay post yout tattoos

10-16-2005, 02:07 PM	#3
sfera Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: ICQ: 248877409 Posts: 8,597	quite interresting

10-16-2005, 02:08 PM	#5
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	very nice, good work!

10-16-2005, 02:12 PM	#7
jawanda Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,040	i love stats congrats on making the top 10 jay. -P

10-16-2005, 02:32 PM	#13
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	I predict over/under 4 pages of mad views

10-16-2005, 02:42 PM	#17
mn Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,505	Very interesting read! BTW, he is correct on many of the programs he think shaves (I wont name the ones I know because I don't have time to sit here for days defending myself), so instead I post about one of the sponsors I know he is wrong about. ARS (adult revenue service) didn't shave anything (at least not me and lots of freiends) during the years I used them. Every time I suspected it I did serveral signups, they All got credited Every time. (Of course they got emails every time once it was credited so they could deduct it from my earnings.)

10-16-2005, 02:50 PM	#22
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	OC Cash does a consistant 1:350 for me. first page hits.

10-16-2005, 03:22 PM	#27
Mpegmaster Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,300	I see DUKEDOLLARS.COM up there ;) I like the fact that Duke has some of the best Hardcore content out there on the Net And as the top guns would CONTENT MATTERS ;) My favourites like Occash....topbucks.....all there ;) Occash gives me some of the best rebills out there! Keep it up Jay

10-16-2005, 04:24 PM	#29
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	wonder what brad shaw thinks of Q's comment on that board

10-16-2005, 04:40 PM	#32
Nicky Judge Jury and Executioner Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 30,069	nice, OCCash is good shit __________________ gfynicky @ gmail.com

10-16-2005, 04:46 PM	#35
Odie Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The WATER BABY! Posts: 7,040	congrats Jay! __________________ Odie [email protected] Are you Mobile???? MMACanada ICQ # 166208354 See Who I Am At AdultWhosWho.com!

10-16-2005, 04:48 PM	#36
TheSenator Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 13,332	Is that a new board? that is some good reading... "Why Do They Shave?" __________________ ISeekGirls.com since 2005

10-16-2005, 06:55 PM	#41
HollywoodChris Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,282	As always Q'on - Mad respect for ya! Glad you gave us a shot and if you need anything please let me know... I have a plan to make that ratio even better too. I'll hit you up about it. -Chris

10-16-2005, 07:03 PM	#42
shermo Guest Posts: n/a	Glad to see us holding strong at #2! nice list.. Thanks for linking to this Jay. Some interesting stuff over there.

10-16-2005, 07:24 PM	#43
Wiggles Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 14,423	i see danza is back again haha __________________ no sig

10-16-2005, 07:54 PM	#44
Persignup Qon Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: HeLL Posts: 853	wow.... didn't expect this to get posted here... but i'm glad more eyes are on it. our industry needs an overhaul .. __________________ OnProbation.com \| PerSignup.com - Now Paying PPS and RevShare! {{ Portfolio: TKME \| AC \| BGDINT \| ESP - More Here... }} If You Really Get Paid in Adult, You Should Be Getting Paid By Us!

10-16-2005, 08:29 PM	#46
Major (Tom) Noticing Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Null Posts: 29,937	thats a very interesting list. We were surprised to even be on it, let alone #2. Thanks for the oppurtunity. Duke __________________ My mother said, to get things done You'd better not mess with Major Tom

10-16-2005, 08:40 PM	#47
llporter Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 3,221	I am not sure about all the accusations you make about shaving xxxjay. The one thing I do know is that I am making some real nice $$ with adult players club. I am converting at 1/183. With that ratio I don't give a fuck if they are shaving. 1/183 and that is on PPS getting $35 per sale!

10-16-2005, 08:44 PM	#48
VeriSexy Join The Royal Family Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 25,463	That looks like a great read, nice stats page __________________ Looking for a KICK ASS TEEN SPONSOR? Check out ROYAL CASH - THE KING OF TEEN! Incredible webmaster tools FHGs, Morphing Blog and RSS Feeds, Embedded FLV & WMV Videos. With TOP RATIO Sites like TeenStarsOnly.com - Earn $$ with our New Site & Bonus Payouts!! ATMovs.com \| iTeenVideo.com \| TeenSexMovs.com \| TeenSexMania.com

10-16-2005, 08:48 PM	#49
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Oh snap! September Hall Of Shame (conversion worse than 1:1500) Epic Cash .02/unique 1:1566 __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

10-16-2005, 08:49 PM	#50
bangman Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: PA, USA Posts: 5,283	That accusation is so ridiculous that I'm not even going to start anything up with Persigup Qon -- he can think we shave all he wants. __________________ - David Hall ICQ: 312744199