my mistake... i did leave the epiccash link up... OOOPS... doesn't change my opinion & i still expect to get my checks in the mail no matter how many signups were shaved from it. now... please respect my request made to your employee earlier in this thread... if you don't mind. when i see someone getting mad when another is being honest about how they feel they are being treated.... tells me a lot about the person getting heated. :2 cents:


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Q'on...there is little you could do to actually get me heated...you stated your opinion...i offered a resolution...you thought it was not acceptable so now i am fucking with you to get sig views...what could that possibly say about me personally?

I dont work for any program.
Please YOU respect the request of the guy a few posts above that asked for you to prove you dont shave... and dont say you use nats blah blah, you think ppl cant shave with nats?

Uhm yes, right, please accept my appologies mister know it all :1orglaugh


Hahaha, you use NATS so you can't shave? Man you are a genuinely funny guy. I use durex so I can't get AIDS.


I'm far from mad, I just find it funny that someone with "8 years of experience" thinks a program shaves if he can't get a satisfying ratio with them. You must be the type of person that calls a girl that turns them down a dyke.

Mmmm yeah. I knew there were two of you :1orglaugh

Careful.

Maybe this thread is about to get REALLY interesting??

it isn't my software.... no software is perfect... i'm not here to defend it. not ONE other software maker has even ATTEMPTED to spark honesty in the game OTHER than the cats that make NATs. hell, that in itself is a step in the right direction. :2 cents:



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haha im just waiting for all the sponsors on the shit list to come in here and bash Qon. then it would be official, NO sponsors shave. HA! yeah fucking right..

mad props to you Qon. one of the few to actually speak up about the bullshit.

I didn't write that, that's from Q'on page.

I did not enter this thread to bash Q'on...i entered to offer up different scenarios other than shaving as possible issues....I even offered to help with a test...

now it is just sig view fun....Epic has its share of loyal affiliates and they are comfortable in the way we run our biz....

Just as q'on says he thinks we shave....andtells us to "PROVE WE DON'T"
I am simply telling him..."PROVE WE DO"...before you spout off against us...

Basically same principle is applying here...so if you can't understand that son...don't waste my time.

Onprobation.com is a great site, it has been around forever and is very well connected. The site sends traffic but it's more then that. It's the type of traffic, it doesnt have your typical adult traffic, it's a mix of everything, like a consumption junction. Some of his top refferring sites are some of the best sites online in my opinion, you dont get trades like that if you are a nobody.

I have friends that check out OP and I use to check it out a while back as well.. 5 hits or 50,000 hits, the exposure of having your program even on that page is what is worth it.

I am sure it is Pipecrew....but you have to admit...there is a "game" here at GFY also...I am just playing it.... :winkwink:

this is great 2 hear coming from you PipeCrew... thanks. actually, my biggest chunk of traffic goes to a flat rate sponsor... i'm considering sending my next biggest chunk to BBO due to your performance. thanks for being a great sponsor i can trust :thumbsup

ps - hit me on icq personally so i can let u know what i need... i've tried going thru support but haven't had much luck - 2659121

just read on your site.. are you still in vegas.. if so lets meet up

congrats Jay and i'm sure you will move up as you guys have some great stuff

Yep, I agree...and that's why you see so many NATS programs with a Revshare Model...I'm not saying this about every pps program, but there are some out there that NEED TO BE ABLE TO SHAVE to make a profit. That's why NATS may not be for them.

nah... i live in thailand... you should go on our webmaster's excursion we're having next year :thumbsup

i've looked at your program & you don't have any interracial or ethnic sites. OP is a niched directory so unfortunately, it wouldn't make sense for me to send you traffic that i know will not convert.

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Yup... this is going to be a big thread.

OnProbation.com traffic is the truth. Q'on knows what's going on in the industry more than you cats give him credit for. Just because you may no know him doesn't mean he's not on top of his game.

If he is sending traffic to one of your ethnic sites and getting NO sales, I have to question the honesty of the program.

fyi.... i listed meatcash, vouyercash & stoneycash in my "sites that i believe shave" list... i believe that was an error & has been corrected. thank for the chat, Yellow Menace (from the peeps who run this group of programs). :thumbsup

Werd. Q'on was already around moving traffic when I started in this biz back in the days of Condom. An old school Cat who, when he talks, I listen.

Sweet stats!

very hot, congrats!

Yeah man, I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so...Meatcash is solid as they come.

no way meat cash shaves.
aint happening

duke

glad to have a trusted affilate :)

thx for your business

Duke

I belive in you Bangman!

acct: clickme aka Persignup Qon
his stats from current period to 8 pay periods ago.

1:963
1:151
1:327
0:104
0:59
1:1597
0:2027
3:3607

these are raws not uniques

his 1:1500 bs is a flat out lie.

1:1261 RAWS, not UNIQUES.

fuck this clown

if its a lie, you told it.... reported by YOUR STATS thru STATSREMOTE. thanks for comfirming that you & your program are a fraud :thumbsup

i was logged into YOUR acct on epiccash you fuckin moron.

copy and pasted what it said. not admin not stats remote (3rd party bullshit)

Just when you thought it couldn't get any better....

somehow i believe if you WEREN'T fucking with stats, you'd have very little reason to call statsremote "3rd party bullshit"... maybe you need to work on the fake shit your software is spewing out... make sure it jives whenever it reports... on your side or on statsremote. like i said... only truth hurts & you're heated becuz of it. get your shit tight, turn off the shave on my shit & pay me what you say you will pay... do the same for other affiliates too... fuck it. i know you won't admit it, but be a fuckin MAN for once. nobody likes pussy unless attached to a bitch ready to fuck. :2 cents:


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heated?

hahahaha

hardly you little piss ant.

i dont run statsremote. you run to them like the little bitch you are and tell them to report shit accurately.

you are under 1:1k with us unique and if your stupid lazy ass logged in and checked you would see this. not rely on a 3rd party thats broke half the time.


twat.

drinking scotch tonight, so yea, looks like we got a few rounds coming, this isnt over. you are a liar and your little circle jerk of faggot friends will be exposed. your styats list is fixed and that is a fact.

you admitted you were wrong earlier. you are wrong now.

juvenile


immature


stats are overall for last month & i doubt that number is incorrect... i know how u convert, i know what you've paid, i know what i should convert, i know when i smell a rat. does that mean i won't send you traffic? no... at least you pay some... do i feel like you lie about payout amounts? yes. i'd prefer honesty... 15 bucks a signup? cool... as long as i get credit for every one. hell, 10 signups @ 15 are the same as 10 at 30, so why lie? :eek7


juvenile... again.


i was wrong due several factors, none of which apply to YOU or your program. i also was able to have a mature, professional discussion with the owner who addressed the issue like a professional. that says a lot. you on the other hand, are proving my point for me. enjoy :thumbsup

SOMEONE POST A SCREENCAP ~!

Great way for him to promote his new board lol... I'm sending traffic to persignup, lets see how well that converts for me, so far not a sale... If its a shitty ratio does that mean you shave Q'on? you gonna prove you dont?

conversion ratios are subjective. u send teen traffic to a fat chicks site, what do you think will happen? :1orglaugh please send all the traffic you wish.... the 1 site (damnq.com) that is live now converts at about 1:600 on my traffic... still partnership & the site just opened a few months ago so we're still working on retention. i don't make promises i can't keep & i don't lie about payouts so comparing epic cash to persignup is well.... asinine. NEXT!




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this is pure ebony traffic going to a ebony site... will wait till it gets more traffic to it then will post results.

you had a professional discussin with the owner of EpicCash?

wow you made it to the top kid.. you passed the chain of command. you want a fuking medal?

tell the owner of epiccash what a shithead i am and to fire me.

you still havent proven shit and I posted EXACTLY what was in your stats and not stats remote. statsremote is not the source of the stats. epiccash is. you you should have taken the time to login to the stats area of epiccash and calculate them yourself you dipshit.

thats like exxon mobil releasing their 4th quearter financials based on the secretaries invoices she has lying on her desk.

I convert DamnQ at 1:41 with targeted traffic.