Sweet stats!

very hot, congrats!

Yeah man, I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so...Meatcash is solid as they come.

no way meat cash shaves.
aint happening

duke

glad to have a trusted affilate :)

thx for your business

Duke

I belive in you Bangman!

acct: clickme aka Persignup Qon
his stats from current period to 8 pay periods ago.

1:963
1:151
1:327
0:104
0:59
1:1597
0:2027
3:3607

these are raws not uniques

his 1:1500 bs is a flat out lie.

1:1261 RAWS, not UNIQUES.

fuck this clown

if its a lie, you told it.... reported by YOUR STATS thru STATSREMOTE. thanks for comfirming that you & your program are a fraud :thumbsup

i was logged into YOUR acct on epiccash you fuckin moron.

copy and pasted what it said. not admin not stats remote (3rd party bullshit)

Just when you thought it couldn't get any better....

somehow i believe if you WEREN'T fucking with stats, you'd have very little reason to call statsremote "3rd party bullshit"... maybe you need to work on the fake shit your software is spewing out... make sure it jives whenever it reports... on your side or on statsremote. like i said... only truth hurts & you're heated becuz of it. get your shit tight, turn off the shave on my shit & pay me what you say you will pay... do the same for other affiliates too... fuck it. i know you won't admit it, but be a fuckin MAN for once. nobody likes pussy unless attached to a bitch ready to fuck. :2 cents:


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heated?

hahahaha

hardly you little piss ant.

i dont run statsremote. you run to them like the little bitch you are and tell them to report shit accurately.

you are under 1:1k with us unique and if your stupid lazy ass logged in and checked you would see this. not rely on a 3rd party thats broke half the time.


twat.

drinking scotch tonight, so yea, looks like we got a few rounds coming, this isnt over. you are a liar and your little circle jerk of faggot friends will be exposed. your styats list is fixed and that is a fact.

you admitted you were wrong earlier. you are wrong now.

juvenile


immature


stats are overall for last month & i doubt that number is incorrect... i know how u convert, i know what you've paid, i know what i should convert, i know when i smell a rat. does that mean i won't send you traffic? no... at least you pay some... do i feel like you lie about payout amounts? yes. i'd prefer honesty... 15 bucks a signup? cool... as long as i get credit for every one. hell, 10 signups @ 15 are the same as 10 at 30, so why lie? :eek7


juvenile... again.


i was wrong due several factors, none of which apply to YOU or your program. i also was able to have a mature, professional discussion with the owner who addressed the issue like a professional. that says a lot. you on the other hand, are proving my point for me. enjoy :thumbsup

SOMEONE POST A SCREENCAP ~!

Great way for him to promote his new board lol... I'm sending traffic to persignup, lets see how well that converts for me, so far not a sale... If its a shitty ratio does that mean you shave Q'on? you gonna prove you dont?

conversion ratios are subjective. u send teen traffic to a fat chicks site, what do you think will happen? :1orglaugh please send all the traffic you wish.... the 1 site (damnq.com) that is live now converts at about 1:600 on my traffic... still partnership & the site just opened a few months ago so we're still working on retention. i don't make promises i can't keep & i don't lie about payouts so comparing epic cash to persignup is well.... asinine. NEXT!




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this is pure ebony traffic going to a ebony site... will wait till it gets more traffic to it then will post results.

you had a professional discussin with the owner of EpicCash?

wow you made it to the top kid.. you passed the chain of command. you want a fuking medal?

tell the owner of epiccash what a shithead i am and to fire me.

you still havent proven shit and I posted EXACTLY what was in your stats and not stats remote. statsremote is not the source of the stats. epiccash is. you you should have taken the time to login to the stats area of epiccash and calculate them yourself you dipshit.

thats like exxon mobil releasing their 4th quearter financials based on the secretaries invoices she has lying on her desk.

I convert DamnQ at 1:41 with targeted traffic.

Definitely! Class act all the way with Duke and Big Red.

Class act

god you make me want to puke.

whats classy about pornography?


you jack off, bust a nut and you throw the towel in the hamper/washer/hide the lube/clean up and forget what you just did like it never happend.

classy.

you are all closet homosexuals. hypocrites at best.

note to self: never post while drunk (or high).... causes confusion & misunderstanding of posts that are quite clear :1orglaugh

you still havent proven shit and I posted EXACTLY what was in your stats and not stats remote. statsremote is not the source of the stats. epiccash is. you you should have taken the time to login to the stats area of epiccash and calculate them yourself you dipshit.

thats like exxon mobil releasing their 4th quearter financials based on the secretaries invoices she has lying on her desk.


guess i was offtopic.. damn 6th grader

don't tell them shit... conversion ratios only make sense to people who know what they are doing. i'll shut all this shit up in time when we drop the HONEST PPS strcutured payout next year :thumbsup

only losers and broke mainstream failures start out with revshare.

fact.

you will never learn the paysite pps game/model

it takes more than 3 brain cells 2 of which you lack.

get sober... post when you can make sense & re-read what i said & try again. :winkwink:

*edit* - oh yeah, it isn't for me to prove that you do, its for you to prove that you don't cuz we ALL KNOW WHAT THE DEAL IS :1orglaugh

did you just call OCCash losers??? wow... big statement there :thumbsup did ya know they were just nominated for an xbiz award? :1orglaugh - now who exactly did you say was lacking brain cells?

was I not clear in what I typed?

xbiz award?

lmfao.

ok after that remark, i will have to bow out of this stupid conversation. you just proved what i was dealing with....

hope your issues get resolved someday

i noticed how you always STFU when someone with higher intellect stands up to you & doesn't stoop to your level... i told DWB i'd make you clam up... how does it feel to be so predictable? and also, a fraud? :1orglaugh

I think Jim was pretty clear that its not EpicCash's problem or responsibility to prove anything, its yours as an affiliate to prove that EpicCash is doing anything wrong. In which EpicCash is not.

he made you an offer, and you declined..

I think we know who the spineless coward hypocrite is here. now dont we....

yes... we do LOL... top people say you shave, kid. i'd say you have a LOT to prove. then again, i've said from the jump... you will never fess up even though WE ALL KNOW THE DEAL. how does it feel to be the odd man out? i know you THINK you are the MAN... but let reality set in for a moment. we all know you're a fraud, you're ignorant & are a master in the art of lying & getting people to believe in a SCAM. how does that feel when you look in the mirror every morning? do you feel ANYTHING?

look... you're getting paid... that's all good... congrats. at the end of the day, you can sit back & have a nice glass of liquor & say to yourself... "hey... i'm getting rich fucking people i know & complete strangers... i'm the man" ... that's a good thing i suppose. does that bitch lying next to you when you wake up know she's married to a liar? :helpme

*edit* - ok, my bad... i'm gettin personal... these are just my opinions. how i feel is my own thing.... you wanna belive in 40/signup on $4 trials? more power to ya! :winkwink:

An amazing post and words that are long overdue!

I KNOW FOR A FACT SOME OF THE ONES IN YOUR LIST ARE ACCURATE.

Why? The owners themselves told me to my face. Why don't I say who publicly? Pretty much every day I have to ask that question. I tell myself that I am not a narc but then hate myself for allowing others to suffer getting ripped off. I say we don't need another lawsuit then privately welcome the public platform of a Federal Court to expose the accounting and software scams used to shave.

Until the day comes that I finally can make up my mind with a settled conscience, I will keep it too myself and will welcome the day of reckoning when true accountability is demanded - which is something that we as a company are already quite willing to provide - proven by the fact that we are going on record, "opening our books" figuretively and literally, in cases like Acacia and CE.

Affiliates deserve accountability. Yet they do not demand it. So if sponsors can get away with shaving the herd of sheep with a few dogged spokespeople then they will. That is the game.

thank you... a few people in this industry still do have integrity & balls :thumbsup

Big Congrats to Chris, Ryan and Jay....you guys work your dicks off...and it shows!

Nice job!

persignup con

I own stake of 4 dif programs on your cute little list.btw 2 more are not live yet only 1 is on the shitlist posted with numbers that are not even accurate. you are a liar and you pick and choose with whom you're circle of friends are that get listed on your lil bog lol

off topic i might add, I look in the mirror and i see a winner. When I look in thr mirror, I see a 28 yr old man that has more potential with each end every day that passes, and the knowledge I absorb on how to make money.

Am I in jail for being a fraud? Do I have any pending lawsuits? ever has there been stated proof we are frauds? shavers? etc?

nah, I dont think so. EpicCash has its haters because I AM a hater. I hate this industry and the ppl that infest its potential with ignorant fucking scum like you.


Im not a stupid man, I dont dream about shit I want. I am relastic and I make a plan and execute it accordingly. yet my ego hasnt gone anywhere.
odd symptoms of success isnt it?
I have a clear conscience and I have more integrity than most would think. Im loyal to my family, and whos peoples intrest I am responsible for.


so get fucked.

you were caught lying and trying to use EpicCash as a scape goat. I posted what your numbers were which are actually lower if you consoider uniques instead of raws like i did.

later kid.

interesting how the guilty like to flip the script & direct attention from their own deeds. feel free to call names "pimpdogg" but you're more transparent than any program (or program owner). you STILL fail to prove that you DON'T so we have to assume that you DO. like it or not, that's the state we are in at this point. now... what does it say about YOU that you are calling someone who is DEMANDING HONESTY & INTEGRITY FROM SPONSORS a scumbag? :1orglaugh fuck it... 'nuff said & enough time wasted with the likes of you. i can't wait to see you in person so i can tell you to eat a dick to your face. :winkwink:

Fact: OCCash didn't start with a lot of cash to back a big PPS campaign. We just had good content and the will to do it. Now we do the #'s of SU per day a lot of PPS guys wish they were doing.

Send a member to our site -- you are going to make an average of $25-$45 bucks...you will just get it over time.

PPS isn't all it's cracked up to be.

oh btw, no one is disputing my numbers but epic cash.... i wonder why? maybe because they are manipulating stats? maybe the others that are doing the same are smart enough not to open their big mouths & make it plainly obvious? the blue or the red pill folks?

why would anyone dispute the numbers that you posted? they are supposedly your stateremopte stats no?

is this a trick question?


i said epic doesnt shave, you claim we do. without proof you get banned plain and simple imho.

we will see if you are here tomorrow... time will tell

u r the one that can't live without gfy, "pimp" lol.... i'm calling for accountability on all sponsors part... something that's good for our business & this community. i also did not make this post... i'm simply responding to YOU. if i get banned for that? so be it. if anything YOU should be banned for being a mar on the adult website game. a parasite that feeds on it.... slowly killing it. that's all i'll say to you on this forum.... i don't hide behind keyboards.. all my future words will be said to your face. done.



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im always in vegas at the show, and i live in phoenix...

anytime bud

wait, i will have moved into my new austin place in the next month or so.,.. so if you can save up the cash for a ticket, ill have my driver pick you up.

Persignup Qon said his ratio for september was 1:1566

You said the last 8 periods was:
1:963 17/10-23/10
1:151 10/10-16/10
1:327 03/10-09/10
0:104 26/09-02/10
0:59 19/09-25/09
1:1597 12/09-18/09
0:2027 05/09-11/09
3:3607 29/08-04/09

that would give a ratio at 1:1849 for 29/08 to 02/10

so you might wanna retract that he was wrong on the stats Trey.

we hold 1 weeks checks.

this is the last 4 checks

1:151 10/10-16/10
1:327 03/10-09/10
0:104 26/09-02/10
0:59 19/09-25/09

retract what?

even if i am off a week, these are his stats

1:327 03/10-09/10
0:104 26/09-02/10
0:59 19/09-25/09
1:1597 12/09-18/09



1:1500 my ass

The stats he posted on his list was for september, not for the last weeks.

whatever, he clearly does better than 1:1500 and he says we shave and continues to send traffic.

we shave then, i admit it.. send the traffic.

thats the answer everyone wants to hear right?

he should just stop sending traffic to us and save it for OC Cash since they rock so much and are a 'class act'

Q'On some of things you say in your post seem like paranoid delusions to me. You're slandering certain sponsors based upon nothing but 'gut instinct' and absolutely no facts.

"when a program's conversions ratios are erratic, that makes me suspicious" ... "more often than not, they are adjusting your account to insure profitability."

This may or may not be true, but you have posted absolutely zero evidence of this IMO.

Are you seriously trying to say that just because your sales are erratic with a particular sponsor, then therefore that sponsor must be a dishonest thief? I mean come-on get real man!

Here's an example that has happened to me: Bang bros averages 1:430 with me this year (which would be pretty good if only it was 1st page uniques) ... usually their sales are fairly stable, but from time to time i see huge fluctuations with their sales.

What i've noticed that sales seems to be closely related to which model they are featuring that week. The week in May when they featured that bigtits beauty Brandy, the sales soared high, i was getting ratios of about 1:250 ... but this past seven days there's been some ugly bitches and i'm getting ratios worse than 1:2000 2nd page uniques. Which is totally fucked up. But am i calling them dishonest shavers? of course not! I totally love Bang Bros! So, tell me Q'on do those eratic conversions make BangBros dishonest shavers?? of course not!

But that seems to be pretty much the logic you are using to slander those other programs. It's rediculous to be making such wild connections with such strong conviction.

Even if a program was shaving, don't you think the best way to shave would be to slice a small percent EVERY WEEK. And therefore the conversions would be stable from week to week. Who the fuck in their right mind would shave the hell out of one week, and then remove the shave to give massive payouts the next??

Using 'eratic conversion ratios' as your evidence for shaving just doesn't cut it for me :1orglaugh

just know this: i'm asking for programs to prove to YOU as an affiliate that they DON'T shave yer balls... if they don't, then they won't. nothing we can do... but i'm not sleeping on the truth. i only want this industry to get better... to have integrity. if you still belive your stats don't get adjusted, then that's your right.... everyone is entitled to their own beliefs and opinions. blue or the red pill folks :winkwink:



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There are other reasons that these companies could potentially / do shave, though from August to September there are quite the internet traffic changes due to it getting colder out; some have said that more people stay inside more, and use their internet, and end up buying porn.

Matt

Just to add.. There are also disruptions / changes in traffic, especially say if your traffic is mainly from the US, then what's everyone doing on say... Thanksgiving day.. Surfing the net? Not likely.. same idea with Christmas, etc..

Cheers,
Matt