Im roughly at 1:8000 with ccbill - GoFuckYourself.com

Dirty F · 10-14-2005, 10:50 AM

Im not promoting sponsors using ccbill much these days. This is from a few sponsors combined.

Isnt it crazy?

adultchica · 10-14-2005, 10:51 AM

I will not promote any programs anymore that use the ccbill affiliate program!

alias · 10-14-2005, 10:52 AM

that is fucking bullshit man! . ..damn keep us posted

10-14-2005, 10:52 AM

0:11610 here

dynastoned · 10-14-2005, 10:53 AM

ridiculous is the word i would best describe that.

cranki · 10-14-2005, 10:54 AM

is everybody doing bad on them?

dynastoned · 10-14-2005, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cranki

is everybody doing bad on them?

i am...

Jensen · 10-14-2005, 10:55 AM

thats crazy frank.. what the heck kind of niches and traffic would that be?

one thing that you all need to remember is that the ccbill programs will show you the first page raw numbers, not the second page unique that most other programs do.. aka a 1:1000 at a ccbill program might be as good as a 1:250 at another program.. not an excuse, but some programs will even give out their per join page ratioes to make them look good...

my sites are doing great so no reason at all not to push my ccbill affiliate program

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Dirty F · 10-14-2005, 10:56 AM

This is traffic from blogs, tgp, free sites and even SE.

Jer · 10-14-2005, 10:56 AM

Damn!

Jensen · 10-14-2005, 10:58 AM

no way you would do 0:8000 with that kind of traffic.. that just sounds fishy

cranki · 10-14-2005, 11:01 AM

Nasty · 10-14-2005, 11:01 AM

heheh, no shit, I am right there with you, 1 in 6000 off of mostly seo traffic, thats across 3 ccbill accounts that are all about the same, from 1 in 4k to 1 in 8k

according to my stats remote, over the past 12 months, my ccbill conversions have slowly gone from 1/600 to 1/6000 at a somewhat consistent pace

I only send about 5k a day to ccbill sponsors these days but I actually went 3 days witout a single sale or rebill last week, fucking crazy

pornstar2pac · 10-14-2005, 11:02 AM

I'm lucky. 1:42

Calvinguy · 10-14-2005, 11:04 AM

But if a sponsor use ccbill but with their own backend counting 2nd. page uniques making you believe you have great rations when you don't complain?

Jensen · 10-14-2005, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nasty

I only send about 5k a day to ccbill sponsors these days but I actually went 3 days witout a single sale or rebill last week, fucking crazy

so why the heck do you continue to send 5k's daily if you're not happy with the results?

fris · 10-14-2005, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornstar2pac

I'm lucky. 1:42

he didnt say gay sites.

wdsguy · 10-14-2005, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornstar2pac

I'm lucky. 1:42

did you just come up with a random number?

pornstar2pac · 10-14-2005, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by wdsguy

did you just come up with a random number?

you got me.....

genius

Violetta · 10-14-2005, 11:12 AM

1:962
Its ok

Nasty · 10-14-2005, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jensen

so why the heck do you continue to send 5k's daily if you're not happy with the results?

Cuz I send about 30k a day to sponsors off my network of sites and my revenue is fine on other sponsors, not worth rebuilding old sites to remove ccbill sponsors when my time is better spent building new sites for sponsors that do convert and captitalizing off the traffic of the old sites to the new ones, its just a time issue, I just havent bothered promoting new ccbill sponsors lately

MadCat · 10-14-2005, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornstar2pac

I'm lucky. 1:42

Youre full of shit. Post a screenshot.

KingK7 · 10-14-2005, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MadCat

YARGH! Thou be full of whale shit!

Wrong nick

Sosa · 10-14-2005, 11:29 AM

damn! that sucks

JD · 10-14-2005, 11:36 AM

1:5186.5

cybermike · 10-14-2005, 11:49 AM

Yesterday 1:2774, around that today, I'm usually around 1:1000 or under

This sucks

corvette · 10-14-2005, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck

Im not promoting sponsors using ccbill much these days. This is from a few sponsors combined.

Isnt it crazy?

Franck, i would like to test your links, can you icq me when you have a chance...ill use my own card (just like a consumer off of the street) to test it

45471840

Shoehorn! · 10-14-2005, 12:01 PM

My ratios are shit too. This week has been horrendous.

Oedipus · 10-14-2005, 12:05 PM

For the month of October 1:1247.4; full month of September was 1:1790.7.

nexcom28 · 10-14-2005, 12:14 PM

This month I took a gamble and pushed most of my traffic to one CCbill site I liked the look of and I thought would convert.
The result? 0:3600 before I switched to a different program.

dirtysouth · 10-14-2005, 12:17 PM

Stopped promoting CCBill sites looong ago. Sucks because there are a shitload of sites I'd like to promote but I can't bear the misery of looking at the horrible ratios. My traffic is by no means golden but it seems to do well elsewhere.

alan-l · 10-14-2005, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockatansky

1:962
Its ok

that's OK?

is it me or you guys are out of your minds? I was worried because one of my sponsors went to 1:450 a couple weeks ago!

alan-l · 10-14-2005, 01:31 PM

btw, we don't promote revshare anymore, but still have some old links here and there and for the month of October we're at 1:305

However, I gotta admit CCBill sales went down the shitter last 3-4 months, I mean for our own sites

Compared with Paycom, CCBill is doing quite awful

The Ghost · 10-14-2005, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corvette

Franck, i would like to test your links, can you icq me when you have a chance...ill use my own card (just like a consumer off of the street) to test it

45471840

Sounds like a fair offer

Series · 10-14-2005, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nasty

according to my stats remote, over the past 12 months, my ccbill conversions have slowly gone from 1/600 to 1/6000 at a somewhat consistent pace

yep... 1:1k - 1:6k in 4 months with ccbill

bring back Summer Slowdown

andrej_NDC · 10-14-2005, 01:41 PM

has nothing to do with ccbill...but with the sponsors/sites

I tried epoch and its even worse, so who do you want to send traffic to?

andrej_NDC · 10-14-2005, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alan-l

that's OK?

is it me or you guys are out of your minds? I was worried because one of my sponsors went to 1:450 a couple weeks ago!

1:1000
1000 raw hits --> 600 uniques --> 200 2nd page --> 20 join page
So you can see it also as:
1:600
1:200
1:20
depending on how the sponsor counts the clicks

gdog · 10-14-2005, 01:57 PM

Are we getting screwed over with all the scrubbing these days? Joins are just not what they used to be and CCBill and Epoch control the game pretty much so we are at the mercy of them. I love both companies but is there something going on at the top that they cannot process cards like they used too, are there more restrictions being placed on them to maintain their merchant bank accounts?

G

maxxxxx · 10-14-2005, 01:58 PM

1:1,800 in September which is about my average.
1:3,000 so far in October...

Webby · 10-14-2005, 02:03 PM

I avoid looking at these stats and pretend they don't exist. Can't remember the exact figure, but was near as damn, just under 3000:1.

Gotta be the worst way to leak traffic ever.

Jensen · 10-14-2005, 02:46 PM

send your normal traffic to andrej and your fetish traffic to me.. we know our stuff

Steve · 10-14-2005, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck

Im not promoting sponsors using ccbill much these days. This is from a few sponsors combined.

Isnt it crazy?

someone, somewhere, is very happy with your traffic

TheJimmy · 10-14-2005, 02:51 PM

Ok, first off the crew at ccbill/cavecreek rock...

That being said, when did it become UNcommon knowledge that they scrub SUPER HARD on transactions?

I thought this discussion has been had several times over at least by now.

:/

Have you tried switching some hits over to epoch processing to see if it's merely the processing and not an overall traffic issue?

Screaming · 10-14-2005, 02:53 PM

wow that is nuts

BlackCrayon · 10-14-2005, 02:54 PM

i think credit cards are getting rejected all over for no good reasons, not just ccbill. i tried signing up to a site with my moms card the other day because my ratios were so terrible and it was declinded. she has perfect credit and the limit on the card is high as fuck. i don't get it really.

JD · 10-14-2005, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby

I avoid looking at these stats and pretend they don't exist. Can't remember the exact figure, but was near as damn, just under 3000:1.

Gotta be the worst way to leak traffic ever.

damn dude! I want your traffic! 3000 signups from one unique! Nice!

potter · 10-14-2005, 03:01 PM

I only promote ccbill programs (well, besides maybe 1-3 nonccbill).

Here are the first five programs in my list using oct stats.
1:1389.0
1:246.0
1:900.0
1:2527.0
1:141.0

maxxxxx · 10-14-2005, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheJimmy

Have you tried switching some hits over to epoch processing to see if it's merely the processing and not an overall traffic issue?

For my part sales/conversions an most non-CCBill sites are normal, or even better than usual. It's only CCBill that really sucks hard. The problem is that my two best selling sites are only offering CCBill, nothing else.

Paul&John · 10-14-2005, 03:13 PM

ccbill sucks big time

Major (Tom) · 10-14-2005, 03:21 PM

sometimes they scrub harder, as does paycom.. it happens.. it cant be sunny all the time

duke

10-14-2005, 10:50 AM	#1
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Im roughly at 1:8000 with ccbill Im not promoting sponsors using ccbill much these days. This is from a few sponsors combined. Isnt it crazy?

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adultchica Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: usa Posts: 5,141	I will not promote any programs anymore that use the ccbill affiliate program! __________________

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Nasty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sunny Fucking California Posts: 1,575	heheh, no shit, I am right there with you, 1 in 6000 off of mostly seo traffic, thats across 3 ccbill accounts that are all about the same, from 1 in 4k to 1 in 8k according to my stats remote, over the past 12 months, my ccbill conversions have slowly gone from 1/600 to 1/6000 at a somewhat consistent pace I only send about 5k a day to ccbill sponsors these days but I actually went 3 days witout a single sale or rebill last week, fucking crazy __________________ “Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants. We know more about war than we know about peace, more about killing than we know about living. If we continue to develop our technology without wisdom or prudence, our servant may prove to be our executioner.” ― Omar Bradley (1948)

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dynastoned mmm yeah! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: roseville, ca Posts: 5,061	ridiculous is the word i would best describe that.

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cranki Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Café del Mar Posts: 5,162	is everybody doing bad on them?

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Jensen Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Norway Posts: 3,790	thats crazy frank.. what the heck kind of niches and traffic would that be? one thing that you all need to remember is that the ccbill programs will show you the first page raw numbers, not the second page unique that most other programs do.. aka a 1:1000 at a ccbill program might be as good as a 1:250 at another program.. not an excuse, but some programs will even give out their per join page ratioes to make them look good... my sites are doing great so no reason at all not to push my ccbill affiliate program \| \| \| V

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Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	This is traffic from blogs, tgp, free sites and even SE.

10-14-2005, 10:56 AM	#10
Jer God is Brazilian Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Brazil Posts: 10,601	Damn!

10-14-2005, 10:58 AM	#11
Jensen Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Norway Posts: 3,790	no way you would do 0:8000 with that kind of traffic.. that just sounds fishy

10-14-2005, 11:04 AM	#15
Calvinguy Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: European Union Posts: 1,752	But if a sponsor use ccbill but with their own backend counting 2nd. page uniques making you believe you have great rations when you don't complain?

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Violetta Affiliate Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 28,735	1:962 Its ok __________________ M&A Queen

10-14-2005, 11:29 AM	#24
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	damn! that sucks

10-14-2005, 11:36 AM	#25
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	1:5186.5

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cybermike Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ny Posts: 4,119	Yesterday 1:2774, around that today, I'm usually around 1:1000 or under This sucks __________________ Hey surfers how about some The Best Porn Sites

10-14-2005, 12:01 PM	#28
Shoehorn! Die With Your Boots On Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hawaii Posts: 22,872	My ratios are shit too. This week has been horrendous. __________________

10-14-2005, 12:05 PM	#29
Oedipus Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 190	For the month of October 1:1247.4; full month of September was 1:1790.7.

10-14-2005, 12:14 PM	#30
nexcom28 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,716	This month I took a gamble and pushed most of my traffic to one CCbill site I liked the look of and I thought would convert. The result? 0:3600 before I switched to a different program.

10-14-2005, 12:17 PM	#31
dirtysouth Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Mobtown Posts: 2,613	Stopped promoting CCBill sites looong ago. Sucks because there are a shitload of sites I'd like to promote but I can't bear the misery of looking at the horrible ratios. My traffic is by no means golden but it seems to do well elsewhere. __________________ no sig

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alan-l Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: look behind you Posts: 2,477	btw, we don't promote revshare anymore, but still have some old links here and there and for the month of October we're at 1:305 However, I gotta admit CCBill sales went down the shitter last 3-4 months, I mean for our own sites Compared with Paycom, CCBill is doing quite awful

10-14-2005, 01:41 PM	#36
andrej_NDC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,760	has nothing to do with ccbill...but with the sponsors/sites I tried epoch and its even worse, so who do you want to send traffic to?

10-14-2005, 01:57 PM	#38
gdog Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,550	Are we getting screwed over with all the scrubbing these days? Joins are just not what they used to be and CCBill and Epoch control the game pretty much so we are at the mercy of them. I love both companies but is there something going on at the top that they cannot process cards like they used too, are there more restrictions being placed on them to maintain their merchant bank accounts? G __________________ Busty Amateurs is Back - Meet the Girls \| Read the BLOG \| See the UPDATES High conversions and high retention, almost 1000 hosted galleries 995 PAYS Samples Big Boobs \| Busty Babes \| Strap Ons \| Hardcore \| Amateurs \| Videos

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Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	I avoid looking at these stats and pretend they don't exist. Can't remember the exact figure, but was near as damn, just under 3000:1. Gotta be the worst way to leak traffic ever. __________________ XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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Jensen Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Norway Posts: 3,790	send your normal traffic to andrej and your fetish traffic to me.. we know our stuff

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TheJimmy ICQ- five seven 0 2 5 5 0 Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 10,747	Ok, first off the crew at ccbill/cavecreek rock... That being said, when did it become UNcommon knowledge that they scrub SUPER HARD on transactions? I thought this discussion has been had several times over at least by now. :/ Have you tried switching some hits over to epoch processing to see if it's merely the processing and not an overall traffic issue? __________________ Investor with 5m - 15m USD to invest. Do you have a site or network of sites earning 50k - 200k a month income? Email your contact and preliminary data to: domain.cashventures (at) gmail.com....Please...no tire kickers...serious offers and inquiries only.

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BlackCrayon Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,631	i think credit cards are getting rejected all over for no good reasons, not just ccbill. i tried signing up to a site with my moms card the other day because my ratios were so terrible and it was declinded. she has perfect credit and the limit on the card is high as fuck. i don't get it really. __________________ you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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