The usual story with sales reps - GoFuckYourself.com

Dirty F · 10-15-2005, 11:58 AM

They anounce on gfy how they joined company x. He/she knows them for 1 week but already can say stuff like "the most professional group of people i've worked with" "best converting sites" "awesome this and awesome that".
3 pages of good lucks and thumbsups follow.

Then 6 months later same person has an anouncement how he/she left the company for reasons that won't be made public.

2 weeks pass.

Same person makes an anouncement on gfy how he/she joined company x and how that company is run by such a professional group of people blah blah.
3 pages of

follow etc.

AaronM · 10-15-2005, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benjamin Franklin

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results

I think Ben said it best.

llporter · 10-15-2005, 12:01 PM

so true --

chowda · 10-15-2005, 12:11 PM

everyone stands on a soapbox

Dirty F · 10-15-2005, 03:16 PM

Dalai lama · 10-15-2005, 03:31 PM

Franck is right.

Sly · 10-15-2005, 03:35 PM

I'm looking for an affiliate program to represent. Only the "best groups of people" need apply. I wouldn't want to tarnish my reputation or anything.

LauraLee · 10-15-2005, 03:37 PM

I hear you Franck. I am loyal to a fault in general, so no big surprise that when it comes to working i don't like to jump around there either. I have been with tcg since day 1.

ba$her · 10-15-2005, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck

They anounce on gfy how they joined company x. He/she knows them for 1 week but already can say stuff like "the most professional group of people i've worked with" "best converting sites" "awesome this and awesome that".
3 pages of good lucks and thumbsups follow.

Then 6 months later same person has an anouncement how he/she left the company for reasons that won't be made public.

2 weeks pass.

Same person makes an anouncement on gfy how he/she joined company x and how that company is run by such a professional group of people blah blah.
3 pages of

follow etc.

Yep...well said Franck

u-Bob · 10-15-2005, 05:55 PM

so true.

TheSenator · 10-15-2005, 06:18 PM

The best reps get you in on the newest sites. Hence, more money.

adonthenet · 10-15-2005, 06:23 PM

thats right... people are hiring everyone this time.. =\

PimpDaddyPants · 10-15-2005, 06:25 PM

I'm available fore PR Optimization and more contact me via sig.

The Ghost · 10-15-2005, 06:26 PM

Very true.

bdld · 10-15-2005, 06:49 PM

i don't trust reps for shit. especially the ones that go program to program.

Tam · 10-15-2005, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck

They anounce on gfy how they joined company x. He/she knows them for 1 week but already can say stuff like "the most professional group of people i've worked with" "best converting sites" "awesome this and awesome that".
3 pages of good lucks and thumbsups follow.

Then 6 months later same person has an anouncement how he/she left the company for reasons that won't be made public.

2 weeks pass.

Same person makes an anouncement on gfy how he/she joined company x and how that company is run by such a professional group of people blah blah.
3 pages of

follow etc.

You are hilarious, I know what this is about because you quoted me exactly. BUT you missed this one by a mile, I never said I was a rep, and in this case I am not a rep, I am in COntent Management, BACKEND.......... not a rep. And I said I have been WORKING for them for 3 weeks, not that I have KNOWN them for 3 weeks.

Like I said before, I have no beefs with you and you said you had none with me, so I would greatly appreciate it if you are going to quote me and call me on something, you do it 1) to my face, and 2) have your facts straight when you do. I don't dislike you, I don't KNOW you, so I have no issues with you. But what I DO have issues with is that you call me on something, in your subtle little way, which by the way isn't TOO subtle, since you quoted me exactly, at least have the decency and be adult enough to have your facts straight BEFORE you come here ranting about me.

I am a REP for SensiTop.com, I am Content Management for Badgirlbucks. You see the difference? My announcement was that I joined the team.... LMAO

Libertine · 10-15-2005, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tam

You are hilarious, I know what this is about because you quoted me exactly. BUT you missed this one by a mile, I never said I was a rep, and in this case I am not a rep, I am in COntent Management, BACKEND.......... not a rep. And I said I have been WORKING for them for 3 weeks, not that I have KNOWN them for 3 weeks.

Like I said before, I have no beefs with you and you said you had none with me, so I would greatly appreciate it if you are going to quote me and call me on something, you do it 1) to my face, and 2) have your facts straight when you do. I don't dislike you, I don't KNOW you, so I have no issues with you. But what I DO have issues with is that you call me on something, in your subtle little way, which by the way isn't TOO subtle, since you quoted me exactly, at least have the decency and be adult enough to have your facts straight BEFORE you come here ranting about me.

I am a REP for SensiTop.com, I am Content Management for Badgirlbucks. You see the difference? My announcement was that I joined the team.... LMAO

You literally said "awesome this and awesome that" about the company? Don't you think that's just making it a tad too obvious?

Tam · 10-15-2005, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by punkworld

You literally said "awesome this and awesome that" about the company? Don't you think that's just making it a tad too obvious?

No this is my quote here:

"the most professional group of people i've worked with"

I didn't use the word awesome that I know of anywhere, but that quote there is directly from my post. My point is, he is quoting me and then saying "reps" and I am not a rep. LOL

fris · 10-15-2005, 08:40 PM

i always laugh when someone leaves a company. "we left on good terms" i just laugh my ass off, in other words your ass got canned and you dont wanna say it on a public board. *cough *cough* recent firings at XXX

Tam · 10-15-2005, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris

i always laugh when someone leaves a company. "we left on good terms" i just laugh my ass off, in other words your ass got canned and you dont wanna say it on a public board. *cough *cough* recent firings at XXX

I have gotten fired one time, and this was because I wouldn't condone the shaving. Another time I was in with the whole bunch when the idiot woke up one day and shut the program down. The other two times I left for better positions.

The time I was fired, I came and posted publicly what was going on, and the one that shut down, I stood there and took the brunt of that too. The thing is, I never lied and I never hid, they left and I stood by my affiliates in both cases. I will not and do not condone cheating and I make that VERY clear, and the one that did this, well he knew I wouldn't support or promote this behavior and still tried to pull it off, and I warned him I wasn't going to take it laying down or make my affiliates do it..... and guess what? He fired me. LMAO We're not talking a small shave, we're talking a LOT of shaving....... well over 60% up to 90%.

And you CAN leave in good standing from a job, if you leave to find better work or are offered a better position somewhere else. I have seen this done a million times on here and in business all over, online and off.

Screaming · 10-15-2005, 08:48 PM

yeah people change companies all the time

circlekhabib · 10-15-2005, 09:01 PM

some of us remember the ripoff dialer company you
worked for and have never trusted you since

Tam · 10-15-2005, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by circlekhabib

some of us remember the ripoff dialer company you
worked for and have never trusted you since

Keywords there are "I WORKED FOR". I didn't make the decision to shut that company down and walk with everyone's money including mine.

For what it's worth, I found out later why he shut it down, he was in legal problems with compliance issues...... that boy is long gone, with everyone's money. I WORKED there, I didn't own it and never said I did. And I believe there were a lot of dialer companies ripping people off, not that this condones anything, but it's fact. lol

Cory W · 10-15-2005, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

I'm looking for an affiliate program to represent. Only the "best groups of people" need apply. I wouldn't want to tarnish my reputation or anything.

Quote:

I would love a job with WEG. I can't wait to work from home, drive a company vehicle, and be sent to 6 shows every year. What a fantastic life! Oh, I forgot to mention, I've been in the industry for 10 years!

GTS Mark · 10-15-2005, 09:18 PM

You guys worry too much about others business and not enough about your own, leave the poor girl alone

DH

beemk · 10-15-2005, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM

I think Ben said it best.

awesome quote.

Dirty F · 10-16-2005, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDER

You guys worry too much about others business and not enough about your own, leave the poor girl alone

DH

If youre talking to me, i nowhere in this thread mentioned Tam. She mentioned herself.

Tam · 10-16-2005, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck

If youre talking to me, i nowhere in this thread mentioned Tam. She mentioned herself.

You quoted me, and no one here is an idiot. It's pretty obvious the point you are trying to make here and I can assure you, you were way off base on this.

candyflip · 10-16-2005, 09:36 AM

Some people will do anything for a paycheck.

Dirty F · 10-16-2005, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tam

You quoted me, and no one here is an idiot. It's pretty obvious the point you are trying to make here and I can assure you, you were way off base on this.

God woman, chill. I did not attack you. I used your quote, thats about it. It stands for all the quotes all new employees use. Once again, although you have a poor choice of picking companies to work with, i have totally no problem with you. Never had, never will.

Tam · 10-16-2005, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck

God woman, chill. I did not attack you. I used your quote, thats about it. It stands for all the quotes all new employees use. Once again, although you have a poor choice of picking companies to work with, i have totally no problem with you. Never had, never will.

I just wanted to clear you up on the fact that you used my quote and grouped it with a sales rep job and I am not a sales rep. What I do for this company has nothing to do with sales. What I do for SensiTop.com is a sales rep job. That's all.

In the future, just watch who's words you use and you won't run into this problem again. You can't tell me if I quoted you that you wouldn't be here defending yourself or clearing any misgivings up, right?

Juicy D. Links · 10-16-2005, 09:54 AM

Franck is my Amsterdamn love child

Dirty F · 10-16-2005, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

Franck is my Amsterdamn love child

Youre my new york mac daddy.

Tam · 10-16-2005, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

Franck is my Amsterdamn love child

Juicy, you get around more than anyone I have ever seen in my life. How many damn children do you have now? You should REALLY start paying more attention to them, you know? rotfl

Juicy D. Links · 10-16-2005, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tam

Juicy, you get around more than anyone I have ever seen in my life. How many damn children do you have now? You should REALLY start paying more attention to them, you know? rotfl

3 kids and maybe 8 i dont know about

Juicy D. Links · 10-16-2005, 10:05 AM

DNA tests are costing me arm n leg all these broads say its my kid!!!!!!!!!

RogerV · 10-16-2005, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck

They anounce on gfy how they joined company x. He/she knows them for 1 week but already can say stuff like "the most professional group of people i've worked with" "best converting sites" "awesome this and awesome that".
3 pages of good lucks and thumbsups follow.

Then 6 months later same person has an anouncement how he/she left the company for reasons that won't be made public.

2 weeks pass.

Same person makes an anouncement on gfy how he/she joined company x and how that company is run by such a professional group of people blah blah.
3 pages of

follow etc.

So true LOL that is why I do it all myself now no middle men or sales people. Everytime you train someone or something they think they should be the boss the its so easy syndrome.

The best part is talking to webmasters and watching them smile when you make them money

Tam · 10-16-2005, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

DNA tests are costing me arm n leg all these broads say its my kid!!!!!!!!!

Maybe that's something you should look into, getting stock in those tests, then maybe they will give you a damn discount. LMAO

OR....... stay away from those damn women, they are evil.

ninavain · 10-16-2005, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

DNA tests are costing me arm n leg all these broads say its my kid!!!!!!!!!

Ohhhh Juicy! I didn't get the diapers you sent last week, could you please resend.

Serge Litehead · 10-16-2005, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM

I think Ben said it best.

Thanks Aaron, I have to remind someone with that quote

andrej_NDC · 10-16-2005, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerV

So true LOL that is why I do it all myself now no middle men or sales people. Everytime you train someone or something they think they should be the boss the its so easy syndrome.

The best part is talking to webmasters and watching them smile when you make them money

RRRED · 10-16-2005, 10:23 AM

Oh Tam, don't listen to Franck. Remember he never sleeps and only takes a crap every 3 days. I think he gets inspired to post opinions when he sees something that reminds him of them. (He's a hot little biatch too so ya gotta let him get away with more for that reason alone haha)

Anyway, I think sales reps don't interview their companies as much as they should at the very beginning. You gotta be clear about what you NEED in order to meet up to the expectations the company has for you. In the past couple years it seems that companies only hire to blaze through a reps contact list. When the contact list is gone, YOU are gone.

This is why you gotta keep meeting new people, don't burn your bridges, keep educating yourself, and keep demanding the tools you webmasters need in order to excite them to send traffic to the program. You gotta be able to prove that you are valuable. And don't get too comfortable and/or lose your motivation.

I personally think there's absolutely nothing wrong with switching companies AS LONG AS you are moving UPWARDS, not BACKWARDS.

To some reps, value comes in the forms of either stability, money, prestigeousness, versatile hours, excitement, or the simple fact that they know if they get fired, they will be up shit creek without a paddle.

If the grass looks greener, just put your glasses on and take a closer look cuz it just might be Or it might just mean you need to take a vacation

nico-t · 10-16-2005, 10:26 AM

some reps are huge attention whores, when somethings common they act like its the biggest thing in the world. I find that behavior laughable and i dont take them seriously; id even say it works backwards.

Tam · 10-16-2005, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRRED

Oh Tam, don't listen to Franck. Remember he never sleeps and only takes a crap every 3 days. I think he gets inspired to post opinions when he sees something that reminds him of them. (He's a hot little biatch too so ya gotta let him get away with more for that reason alone haha)

Well, well, well.. then maybe I should be hunting me some pics down of him, you have any? I haven't seen anything I deemed hot in a very long time. LOL

As far as the rest of your statement, I couldn't agree with you more. A GOOD rep will know their craft, and the ones I hate are the ones that give you some lame answer when you ask them something. Like, for example, I asked one one night if they have something, and I knew they did because I was sitting here looking at it, they had NO clue. And it isn't JUST women Reps, this was a man, and within 10 minutes I knew more about his system than he did and he had been there for a few months.

The thing is, if you have a GOOD rep, then you don't need to worry about anything, and you know they know what they are doing. A GOOD rep knows their craft and knows their product, so many don't. They are hired because of who they are or what they look like, and that is the very LAST means I would use to hire a rep. Yes it is important to have contacts, but make sure they are solid contacts, not just "buddies in the field".

I haven't always been the best rep, and I have made plenty of mistakes, but one thing I have always done, and that's to know my product, good or bad, or whatever, know your product before you go telling people about it. You can't tell them what a steak tastes like if you are a vegetarian. LOL

SomeCreep · 10-16-2005, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck

They anounce on gfy how they joined company x. He/she knows them for 1 week but already can say stuff like "the most professional group of people i've worked with" "best converting sites" "awesome this and awesome that".
3 pages of good lucks and thumbsups follow.

Then 6 months later same person has an anouncement how he/she left the company for reasons that won't be made public.

2 weeks pass.

Same person makes an anouncement on gfy how he/she joined company x and how that company is run by such a professional group of people blah blah.
3 pages of

follow etc.

Yes, this is true. You've discovered the great circle of life. Good for you.

10-15-2005, 11:58 AM	#1
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	The usual story with sales reps They anounce on gfy how they joined company x. He/she knows them for 1 week but already can say stuff like "the most professional group of people i've worked with" "best converting sites" "awesome this and awesome that". 3 pages of good lucks and thumbsups follow. Then 6 months later same person has an anouncement how he/she left the company for reasons that won't be made public. 2 weeks pass. Same person makes an anouncement on gfy how he/she joined company x and how that company is run by such a professional group of people blah blah. 3 pages of follow etc.

10-15-2005, 12:11 PM	#4
chowda Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gooch city Posts: 9,527	everyone stands on a soapbox __________________ Someone finds you... 2007 PS: Nationalnet is the best host I've ever had. And i tried alot of them.

10-15-2005, 03:31 PM	#6
Dalai lama Strength and Honor Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 16,540	Franck is right. __________________ A program you can trust. Gallerybooster Run multiply TGPs of 1 script

10-15-2005, 03:35 PM	#7
Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,329	I'm looking for an affiliate program to represent. Only the "best groups of people" need apply. I wouldn't want to tarnish my reputation or anything. __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. Click here for more details.

10-15-2005, 03:37 PM	#8
LauraLee Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: (Still) One Touch Cockie Posts: 3,821	I hear you Franck. I am loyal to a fault in general, so no big surprise that when it comes to working i don't like to jump around there either. I have been with tcg since day 1. __________________ Priority Payout skype lauralee.bunker LL's Email

10-15-2005, 12:01 PM	#3
llporter Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 3,221	so true --

10-15-2005, 03:16 PM	#5
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204

10-15-2005, 05:55 PM	#10
u-Bob there's no $$$ in porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: icq: 195./568.-230 (btw: not getting offline msgs) Posts: 33,063	so true.

10-15-2005, 06:18 PM	#11
TheSenator Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 13,336	The best reps get you in on the newest sites. Hence, more money. __________________ ISeekGirls.com since 2005

10-15-2005, 06:23 PM	#12
adonthenet Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,753	thats right... people are hiring everyone this time.. =\

10-15-2005, 06:25 PM	#13
PimpDaddyPants Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: USA Posts: 1,581	I'm available fore PR Optimization and more contact me via sig.

10-15-2005, 06:26 PM	#14
The Ghost IslandDollars.com Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Icq: 176176 Posts: 12,188	Very true. __________________ ISLAND DOLLARS 1000's of Exclusive TS scenes / Constant Updates Best TS Network your surfers will ever join

10-15-2005, 06:49 PM	#15
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	i don't trust reps for shit. especially the ones that go program to program.

10-15-2005, 08:40 PM	#19
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,372	i always laugh when someone leaves a company. "we left on good terms" i just laugh my ass off, in other words your ass got canned and you dont wanna say it on a public board. cough cough* recent firings at XXX __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

10-15-2005, 08:48 PM	#21
Screaming I can change this!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 18,972	yeah people change companies all the time __________________

10-15-2005, 09:01 PM	#22
circlekhabib Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 490	some of us remember the ripoff dialer company you worked for and have never trusted you since

10-15-2005, 09:18 PM	#25
GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	You guys worry too much about others business and not enough about your own, leave the poor girl alone DH

10-16-2005, 09:36 AM	#29
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,064	Some people will do anything for a paycheck. __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

10-16-2005, 09:54 AM	#32
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	Franck is my Amsterdamn love child

10-16-2005, 10:05 AM	#36
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	DNA tests are costing me arm n leg all these broads say its my kid!!!!!!!!!

10-16-2005, 10:23 AM	#42
RRRED Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: WA Posts: 6,754	Oh Tam, don't listen to Franck. Remember he never sleeps and only takes a crap every 3 days. I think he gets inspired to post opinions when he sees something that reminds him of them. (He's a hot little biatch too so ya gotta let him get away with more for that reason alone haha) Anyway, I think sales reps don't interview their companies as much as they should at the very beginning. You gotta be clear about what you NEED in order to meet up to the expectations the company has for you. In the past couple years it seems that companies only hire to blaze through a reps contact list. When the contact list is gone, YOU are gone. This is why you gotta keep meeting new people, don't burn your bridges, keep educating yourself, and keep demanding the tools you webmasters need in order to excite them to send traffic to the program. You gotta be able to prove that you are valuable. And don't get too comfortable and/or lose your motivation. I personally think there's absolutely nothing wrong with switching companies AS LONG AS you are moving UPWARDS, not BACKWARDS. To some reps, value comes in the forms of either stability, money, prestigeousness, versatile hours, excitement, or the simple fact that they know if they get fired, they will be up shit creek without a paddle. If the grass looks greener, just put your glasses on and take a closer look cuz it just might be Or it might just mean you need to take a vacation

10-16-2005, 10:26 AM	#43
nico-t emperor of my world Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nethalands Posts: 29,903	some reps are huge attention whores, when somethings common they act like its the biggest thing in the world. I find that behavior laughable and i dont take them seriously; id even say it works backwards.