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Dirty F 10-15-2005 11:58 AM

The usual story with sales reps
 
They anounce on gfy how they joined company x. He/she knows them for 1 week but already can say stuff like "the most professional group of people i've worked with" "best converting sites" "awesome this and awesome that".
3 pages of good lucks and thumbsups follow.

Then 6 months later same person has an anouncement how he/she left the company for reasons that won't be made public.

2 weeks pass.

Same person makes an anouncement on gfy how he/she joined company x and how that company is run by such a professional group of people blah blah.
3 pages of :thumbsup follow etc.

AaronM 10-15-2005 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benjamin Franklin
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results

I think Ben said it best. :thumbsup

llporter 10-15-2005 12:01 PM

so true --

chowda 10-15-2005 12:11 PM

everyone stands on a soapbox

Dirty F 10-15-2005 03:16 PM

:Graucho

Dalai lama 10-15-2005 03:31 PM

Franck is right.

Sly 10-15-2005 03:35 PM

I'm looking for an affiliate program to represent. Only the "best groups of people" need apply. I wouldn't want to tarnish my reputation or anything.

LauraLee 10-15-2005 03:37 PM

I hear you Franck. I am loyal to a fault in general, so no big surprise that when it comes to working i don't like to jump around there either. I have been with tcg since day 1.

ba$her 10-15-2005 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
They anounce on gfy how they joined company x. He/she knows them for 1 week but already can say stuff like "the most professional group of people i've worked with" "best converting sites" "awesome this and awesome that".
3 pages of good lucks and thumbsups follow.

Then 6 months later same person has an anouncement how he/she left the company for reasons that won't be made public.

2 weeks pass.

Same person makes an anouncement on gfy how he/she joined company x and how that company is run by such a professional group of people blah blah.
3 pages of :thumbsup follow etc.

Yep...well said Franck :thumbsup

u-Bob 10-15-2005 05:55 PM

so true.

TheSenator 10-15-2005 06:18 PM

The best reps get you in on the newest sites. Hence, more money.

adonthenet 10-15-2005 06:23 PM

thats right... people are hiring everyone this time.. =\

PimpDaddyPants 10-15-2005 06:25 PM

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The Ghost 10-15-2005 06:26 PM

Very true.

bdld 10-15-2005 06:49 PM

i don't trust reps for shit. especially the ones that go program to program.

Tam 10-15-2005 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
They anounce on gfy how they joined company x. He/she knows them for 1 week but already can say stuff like "the most professional group of people i've worked with" "best converting sites" "awesome this and awesome that".
3 pages of good lucks and thumbsups follow.

Then 6 months later same person has an anouncement how he/she left the company for reasons that won't be made public.

2 weeks pass.

Same person makes an anouncement on gfy how he/she joined company x and how that company is run by such a professional group of people blah blah.
3 pages of :thumbsup follow etc.


You are hilarious, I know what this is about because you quoted me exactly. BUT you missed this one by a mile, I never said I was a rep, and in this case I am not a rep, I am in COntent Management, BACKEND.......... not a rep. And I said I have been WORKING for them for 3 weeks, not that I have KNOWN them for 3 weeks.

Like I said before, I have no beefs with you and you said you had none with me, so I would greatly appreciate it if you are going to quote me and call me on something, you do it 1) to my face, and 2) have your facts straight when you do. I don't dislike you, I don't KNOW you, so I have no issues with you. But what I DO have issues with is that you call me on something, in your subtle little way, which by the way isn't TOO subtle, since you quoted me exactly, at least have the decency and be adult enough to have your facts straight BEFORE you come here ranting about me. :)

I am a REP for SensiTop.com, I am Content Management for Badgirlbucks. You see the difference? My announcement was that I joined the team.... LMAO

Libertine 10-15-2005 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tam
You are hilarious, I know what this is about because you quoted me exactly. BUT you missed this one by a mile, I never said I was a rep, and in this case I am not a rep, I am in COntent Management, BACKEND.......... not a rep. And I said I have been WORKING for them for 3 weeks, not that I have KNOWN them for 3 weeks.

Like I said before, I have no beefs with you and you said you had none with me, so I would greatly appreciate it if you are going to quote me and call me on something, you do it 1) to my face, and 2) have your facts straight when you do. I don't dislike you, I don't KNOW you, so I have no issues with you. But what I DO have issues with is that you call me on something, in your subtle little way, which by the way isn't TOO subtle, since you quoted me exactly, at least have the decency and be adult enough to have your facts straight BEFORE you come here ranting about me. :)

I am a REP for SensiTop.com, I am Content Management for Badgirlbucks. You see the difference? My announcement was that I joined the team.... LMAO

You literally said "awesome this and awesome that" about the company? Don't you think that's just making it a tad too obvious?

Tam 10-15-2005 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by punkworld
You literally said "awesome this and awesome that" about the company? Don't you think that's just making it a tad too obvious?


No this is my quote here:

"the most professional group of people i've worked with"

I didn't use the word awesome that I know of anywhere, but that quote there is directly from my post. My point is, he is quoting me and then saying "reps" and I am not a rep. LOL

fris 10-15-2005 08:40 PM

i always laugh when someone leaves a company. "we left on good terms" i just laugh my ass off, in other words your ass got canned and you dont wanna say it on a public board. *cough *cough* recent firings at XXX

Tam 10-15-2005 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris
i always laugh when someone leaves a company. "we left on good terms" i just laugh my ass off, in other words your ass got canned and you dont wanna say it on a public board. *cough *cough* recent firings at XXX


I have gotten fired one time, and this was because I wouldn't condone the shaving. Another time I was in with the whole bunch when the idiot woke up one day and shut the program down. The other two times I left for better positions.

The time I was fired, I came and posted publicly what was going on, and the one that shut down, I stood there and took the brunt of that too. The thing is, I never lied and I never hid, they left and I stood by my affiliates in both cases. I will not and do not condone cheating and I make that VERY clear, and the one that did this, well he knew I wouldn't support or promote this behavior and still tried to pull it off, and I warned him I wasn't going to take it laying down or make my affiliates do it..... and guess what? He fired me. LMAO We're not talking a small shave, we're talking a LOT of shaving....... well over 60% up to 90%.

And you CAN leave in good standing from a job, if you leave to find better work or are offered a better position somewhere else. I have seen this done a million times on here and in business all over, online and off.

Screaming 10-15-2005 08:48 PM

yeah people change companies all the time

circlekhabib 10-15-2005 09:01 PM

some of us remember the ripoff dialer company you
worked for and have never trusted you since

Tam 10-15-2005 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by circlekhabib
some of us remember the ripoff dialer company you
worked for and have never trusted you since


Keywords there are "I WORKED FOR". I didn't make the decision to shut that company down and walk with everyone's money including mine.

For what it's worth, I found out later why he shut it down, he was in legal problems with compliance issues...... that boy is long gone, with everyone's money. I WORKED there, I didn't own it and never said I did. And I believe there were a lot of dialer companies ripping people off, not that this condones anything, but it's fact. lol

Cory W 10-15-2005 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly
I'm looking for an affiliate program to represent. Only the "best groups of people" need apply. I wouldn't want to tarnish my reputation or anything.

Quote:

I would love a job with WEG. I can't wait to work from home, drive a company vehicle, and be sent to 6 shows every year. What a fantastic life! Oh, I forgot to mention, I've been in the industry for 10 years!
:1orglaugh

GTS Mark 10-15-2005 09:18 PM

You guys worry too much about others business and not enough about your own, leave the poor girl alone :)

DH

beemk 10-15-2005 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM
I think Ben said it best. :thumbsup

awesome quote.

Dirty F 10-16-2005 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDER
You guys worry too much about others business and not enough about your own, leave the poor girl alone :)

DH


If youre talking to me, i nowhere in this thread mentioned Tam. She mentioned herself.

Tam 10-16-2005 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
If youre talking to me, i nowhere in this thread mentioned Tam. She mentioned herself.


You quoted me, and no one here is an idiot. It's pretty obvious the point you are trying to make here and I can assure you, you were way off base on this. :winkwink:

candyflip 10-16-2005 09:36 AM

Some people will do anything for a paycheck.

Dirty F 10-16-2005 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tam
You quoted me, and no one here is an idiot. It's pretty obvious the point you are trying to make here and I can assure you, you were way off base on this. :winkwink:

God woman, chill. I did not attack you. I used your quote, thats about it. It stands for all the quotes all new employees use. Once again, although you have a poor choice of picking companies to work with, i have totally no problem with you. Never had, never will.

Tam 10-16-2005 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
God woman, chill. I did not attack you. I used your quote, thats about it. It stands for all the quotes all new employees use. Once again, although you have a poor choice of picking companies to work with, i have totally no problem with you. Never had, never will.


I just wanted to clear you up on the fact that you used my quote and grouped it with a sales rep job and I am not a sales rep. What I do for this company has nothing to do with sales. What I do for SensiTop.com is a sales rep job. That's all.

In the future, just watch who's words you use and you won't run into this problem again. You can't tell me if I quoted you that you wouldn't be here defending yourself or clearing any misgivings up, right? :)

Juicy D. Links 10-16-2005 09:54 AM

Franck is my Amsterdamn love child

Dirty F 10-16-2005 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links
Franck is my Amsterdamn love child


Youre my new york mac daddy.

Tam 10-16-2005 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links
Franck is my Amsterdamn love child


Juicy, you get around more than anyone I have ever seen in my life. How many damn children do you have now? You should REALLY start paying more attention to them, you know? rotfl

Juicy D. Links 10-16-2005 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tam
Juicy, you get around more than anyone I have ever seen in my life. How many damn children do you have now? You should REALLY start paying more attention to them, you know? rotfl

3 kids and maybe 8 i dont know about :helpme :helpme :1orglaugh

Juicy D. Links 10-16-2005 10:05 AM

DNA tests are costing me arm n leg all these broads say its my kid!!!!!!!!!

RogerV 10-16-2005 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
They anounce on gfy how they joined company x. He/she knows them for 1 week but already can say stuff like "the most professional group of people i've worked with" "best converting sites" "awesome this and awesome that".
3 pages of good lucks and thumbsups follow.

Then 6 months later same person has an anouncement how he/she left the company for reasons that won't be made public.

2 weeks pass.

Same person makes an anouncement on gfy how he/she joined company x and how that company is run by such a professional group of people blah blah.
3 pages of :thumbsup follow etc.

So true LOL that is why I do it all myself now no middle men or sales people. Everytime you train someone or something they think they should be the boss the its so easy syndrome.

The best part is talking to webmasters and watching them smile when you make them money

Tam 10-16-2005 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links
DNA tests are costing me arm n leg all these broads say its my kid!!!!!!!!!


Maybe that's something you should look into, getting stock in those tests, then maybe they will give you a damn discount. LMAO

OR....... stay away from those damn women, they are evil. :thumbsup

ninavain 10-16-2005 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links
DNA tests are costing me arm n leg all these broads say its my kid!!!!!!!!!

Ohhhh Juicy! I didn't get the diapers you sent last week, could you please resend.

Serge Litehead 10-16-2005 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM
I think Ben said it best. :thumbsup

Thanks Aaron, I have to remind someone with that quote :thumbsup

andrej_NDC 10-16-2005 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerV
So true LOL that is why I do it all myself now no middle men or sales people. Everytime you train someone or something they think they should be the boss the its so easy syndrome.

The best part is talking to webmasters and watching them smile when you make them money

:winkwink:

RRRED 10-16-2005 10:23 AM

Oh Tam, don't listen to Franck. Remember he never sleeps and only takes a crap every 3 days. I think he gets inspired to post opinions when he sees something that reminds him of them. (He's a hot little biatch too so ya gotta let him get away with more for that reason alone haha)

Anyway, I think sales reps don't interview their companies as much as they should at the very beginning. You gotta be clear about what you NEED in order to meet up to the expectations the company has for you. In the past couple years it seems that companies only hire to blaze through a reps contact list. When the contact list is gone, YOU are gone.

This is why you gotta keep meeting new people, don't burn your bridges, keep educating yourself, and keep demanding the tools you webmasters need in order to excite them to send traffic to the program. You gotta be able to prove that you are valuable. And don't get too comfortable and/or lose your motivation.

I personally think there's absolutely nothing wrong with switching companies AS LONG AS you are moving UPWARDS, not BACKWARDS.

To some reps, value comes in the forms of either stability, money, prestigeousness, versatile hours, excitement, or the simple fact that they know if they get fired, they will be up shit creek without a paddle.

If the grass looks greener, just put your glasses on and take a closer look cuz it just might be Or it might just mean you need to take a vacation :)

nico-t 10-16-2005 10:26 AM

some reps are huge attention whores, when somethings common they act like its the biggest thing in the world. I find that behavior laughable and i dont take them seriously; id even say it works backwards.

Tam 10-16-2005 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRRED
Oh Tam, don't listen to Franck. Remember he never sleeps and only takes a crap every 3 days. I think he gets inspired to post opinions when he sees something that reminds him of them. (He's a hot little biatch too so ya gotta let him get away with more for that reason alone haha)


Well, well, well.. then maybe I should be hunting me some pics down of him, you have any? I haven't seen anything I deemed hot in a very long time. LOL

As far as the rest of your statement, I couldn't agree with you more. A GOOD rep will know their craft, and the ones I hate are the ones that give you some lame answer when you ask them something. Like, for example, I asked one one night if they have something, and I knew they did because I was sitting here looking at it, they had NO clue. And it isn't JUST women Reps, this was a man, and within 10 minutes I knew more about his system than he did and he had been there for a few months.

The thing is, if you have a GOOD rep, then you don't need to worry about anything, and you know they know what they are doing. A GOOD rep knows their craft and knows their product, so many don't. They are hired because of who they are or what they look like, and that is the very LAST means I would use to hire a rep. Yes it is important to have contacts, but make sure they are solid contacts, not just "buddies in the field".

I haven't always been the best rep, and I have made plenty of mistakes, but one thing I have always done, and that's to know my product, good or bad, or whatever, know your product before you go telling people about it. You can't tell them what a steak tastes like if you are a vegetarian. LOL

SomeCreep 10-16-2005 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
They anounce on gfy how they joined company x. He/she knows them for 1 week but already can say stuff like "the most professional group of people i've worked with" "best converting sites" "awesome this and awesome that".
3 pages of good lucks and thumbsups follow.

Then 6 months later same person has an anouncement how he/she left the company for reasons that won't be made public.

2 weeks pass.

Same person makes an anouncement on gfy how he/she joined company x and how that company is run by such a professional group of people blah blah.
3 pages of :thumbsup follow etc.

Yes, this is true. You've discovered the great circle of life. Good for you.

:glugglug


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