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Pleasurepays · 10-18-2005, 05:17 PM

50!

25 people trying to sell their software
25 people wrongly thinking that software is the easy part.

the biggest issue you will have to deal with is fraud. MC is cracking down and enforcing 1%. Visa hates you. the second is traffic. the third is the overhead you will be faced with.

software is the easy part. nice software, shitty software, java, flash --- whatever... it doesn't matter. software is the easy part. the easiest. $10,000 for software is nothing compared to the costs and problems you are going to face at startup... and there is a reason that few sites survive more than a few months. everyone thinks they have a better idea. everyone thinks they have traffic.. everyone thinks they have girls.. everyone thinks they have a plan girls etc etc.

thinking software matters in the sucess of a cam site is like thinking that if you had the right TGP script, you could build the next worldsex.com or thehun.net.

JimmiDean · 10-18-2005, 05:30 PM

So let me get this straight.
Guy buys site...etc
Guy (Chaldoray) does not pay his bills
Guy (Chaldoray) looks like he is in this for fun and cant run a biz.
Guy (Chaldoray) bitches at a company that stops supporting him.
Guy (Chaldoray) tries to justify on the board why he should not pay.
Guy (Chaldoray) is upset about debt collection.
Chaldoray brought this garbage thread to the board 2much have been as profesional as they can in dealing with him.....
you make up your own mind .
I dont have a biz relationship with 2much but they are as solid as they come.
I cant believe they even took the time to try to help some kid with no cash.
I guess they too have learned a lesson here.
At the end of the day you are lucky you owe someone who uses lawyers and not the alternative.

cams2chat · 10-18-2005, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmiDean

So let me get this straight.
Guy buys site...etc
Guy (Chaldoray) does not pay his bills
Guy (Chaldoray) looks like he is in this for fun and cant run a biz.
Guy (Chaldoray) bitches at a company that stops supporting him.
Guy (Chaldoray) tries to justify on the board why he should not pay.
Guy (Chaldoray) is upset about debt collection.
Chaldoray brought this garbage thread to the board 2much have been as profesional as they can in dealing with him.....
you make up your own mind .
I dont have a biz relationship with 2much but they are as solid as they come.
I cant believe they even took the time to try to help some kid with no cash.
I guess they too have learned a lesson here.
At the end of the day you are lucky you owe someone who uses lawyers and not the alternative.

I am in the market for another software set up primarily for a Dating site with 2 way video...which I have not even got as far as seeing if 2much has. It also has to be suitable for a sex site with sufficient video quality. It has to be OK for multiple domains same as firecracker, nearlythere are ....have not seen if 2much does or does do what I want but they have good video quality. However I am very wary of people selling software that say we can do this, supply this, provide that and off you go. If it were that simple then the world would be inundated with chat sites.

My point is if it was as simple as it says on the software sales sites (ALL of them and not just 2Much) then why sell it, just do it yourself.

If anyone reading this....2much or whoever has software that
1/. Has a quality Admin set up
2/. multiple domain ok
3/.2 way video
4/. quality product
5/. allows me some degree of control....if I am paying I am not hands off and I want to control my business

contact me, from what I see here 2much is way above all else...just there are some concerns....but I am a serious buyer who cant find anything to buy

JimmiDean · 10-18-2005, 06:12 PM

cams2chat....
I hear what you say but many choose to franchise.
Why doesn't Mcdonalds not make all meals instead of selling a franchise, or Tim Hortons (Starbucks if you are in the U.S.)
There is money in the sales and there is money in the product, it just depends on what you do with it.

2MuchMark · 10-18-2005, 06:20 PM

Pleasurepays:

You are absolutely right. Software and a website acount for only a small percentage of what you need to do. You need to market like crazy, and then service your customers like crazy afterwards to make sure they are happy and come back for more.

Anytime a customer calls us and asks about our system, we always let them know about what other expenses are involved, and what kind of commitment they have to make. Generally, if they aren't prepared to treat it like a real business, then they are doomed to fail.

JimmiDean:
Thank you for your support!

2-Way Video:
Unfortunately, LiveCamNetwork does not support 2-way video at this time. We had started to include it into version 2.0 but have decided against it for several reasons. I am sure there are other ways to have 2-way video though. FLASH has a pretty easy way to do it. You may want to check out Macromedia.com for info on their video system.

I seem to recall an adult website that had 2-way video but I can't remember the name. If anyone reading this knows of one, please post it here.

Cheers!!

Mark Prince
http://www.2much.net

cams2chat · 10-18-2005, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmiDean

cams2chat....
I hear what you say but many choose to franchise.
Why doesn't Mcdonalds not make all meals instead of selling a franchise, or Tim Hortons (Starbucks if you are in the U.S.)
There is money in the sales and there is money in the product, it just depends on what you do with it.

Yes Mcdonalds is a good example of why franchising works and that is there are local laws and local dishes on offer at Mcdonalds. Also there are management issues that the spread of locations means a single management group would be hard pushed to cover.

Chat and other sites are run from wherever and I dont see why 100 cant be run from NY one week and Paris the next. I dont see the franchise argument at all.

cams2chat · 10-18-2005, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by **********

Pleasurepays:
2-Way Video:
Unfortunately, LiveCamNetwork does not support 2-way video at this time. We had started to include it into version 2.0 but have decided against it for several reasons. I am sure there are other ways to have 2-way video though. FLASH has a pretty easy way to do it. You may want to check out Macromedia.com for info on their video system.

I seem to recall an adult website that had 2-way video but I can't remember the name. If anyone reading this knows of one, please post it here.

Cheers!!

Mark Prince
http://www.2much.net

A number of sites have 2 way video...Jadecool (now closed)and cybercamstars, Firecracker, cam contacts....plenty

MediaGuy · 10-18-2005, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

50!

25 people trying to sell their software
25 people wrongly thinking that software is the easy part.

the biggest issue you will have to deal with is fraud. MC is cracking down and enforcing 1%. Visa hates you. the second is traffic. the third is the overhead you will be faced with.

software is the easy part. nice software, shitty software, java, flash --- whatever... it doesn't matter. software is the easy part. the easiest. $10,000 for software is nothing compared to the costs and problems you are going to face at startup... and there is a reason that few sites survive more than a few months. everyone thinks they have a better idea. everyone thinks they have traffic.. everyone thinks they have girls.. everyone thinks they have a plan girls etc etc.

thinking software matters in the sucess of a cam site is like thinking that if you had the right TGP script, you could build the next worldsex.com or thehun.net.

You're totally right of course. We don't sell LiveCamNetwork 1.9 as video streaming software and don't claim to, but as the "complete live video chat solution". - as in a package of services, software and technology to give the prospective entrepreneur as much of a start-off chance as possible.

Technical support and niche-specific advice/consultation are important to us and for our new clients, as well as established and/or more experienced webmasters and operators - because you might know the world about marketing a TGP, but a live cam site is another world entirely.

The other thing you bring up is fraud - well, that CAN be an issue. It depends how you deal with your processing company and how you deal with it yourself - as an independant or as an a solution provider like 2much.

We work to verify all transactions across our system which are flagged as "suspicious" and usually have a human monitoring the events in real-time to verify, allow or not the transaction. We call it AHMAD and it works just fine.

Chaldoray · 10-20-2005, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmiDean

So let me get this straight.
Guy buys site...etc
Guy (Chaldoray) does not pay his bills
Guy (Chaldoray) looks like he is in this for fun and cant run a biz.
Guy (Chaldoray) bitches at a company that stops supporting him.
Guy (Chaldoray) tries to justify on the board why he should not pay.
Guy (Chaldoray) is upset about debt collection.
Chaldoray brought this garbage thread to the board 2much have been as profesional as they can in dealing with him.....
you make up your own mind .
I dont have a biz relationship with 2much but they are as solid as they come.
I cant believe they even took the time to try to help some kid with no cash.
I guess they too have learned a lesson here.
At the end of the day you are lucky you owe someone who uses lawyers and not the alternative.

You don't know the whole story, so i suggest you keep quiet. There was never a contract invfolved, they were going to help me with marketing, which they lied about. But it's over, i am done with it!

10-18-2005, 05:17 PM	#51
Pleasurepays BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in a pile of boogers Posts: 11,913	50! 25 people trying to sell their software 25 people wrongly thinking that software is the easy part. the biggest issue you will have to deal with is fraud. MC is cracking down and enforcing 1%. Visa hates you. the second is traffic. the third is the overhead you will be faced with. software is the easy part. nice software, shitty software, java, flash --- whatever... it doesn't matter. software is the easy part. the easiest. $10,000 for software is nothing compared to the costs and problems you are going to face at startup... and there is a reason that few sites survive more than a few months. everyone thinks they have a better idea. everyone thinks they have traffic.. everyone thinks they have girls.. everyone thinks they have a plan girls etc etc. thinking software matters in the sucess of a cam site is like thinking that if you had the right TGP script, you could build the next worldsex.com or thehun.net. Last edited by Pleasurepays; 10-18-2005 at 05:18 PM..

10-18-2005, 05:30 PM	#52
JimmiDean Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Margarittaville Posts: 3,433	So let me get this straight. Guy buys site...etc Guy (Chaldoray) does not pay his bills Guy (Chaldoray) looks like he is in this for fun and cant run a biz. Guy (Chaldoray) bitches at a company that stops supporting him. Guy (Chaldoray) tries to justify on the board why he should not pay. Guy (Chaldoray) is upset about debt collection. Chaldoray brought this garbage thread to the board 2much have been as profesional as they can in dealing with him..... you make up your own mind . I dont have a biz relationship with 2much but they are as solid as they come. I cant believe they even took the time to try to help some kid with no cash. I guess they too have learned a lesson here. At the end of the day you are lucky you owe someone who uses lawyers and not the alternative. __________________ My God there's Porn on here! Still on the Beach !!!

10-18-2005, 06:12 PM	#54
JimmiDean Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Margarittaville Posts: 3,433	cams2chat.... I hear what you say but many choose to franchise. Why doesn't Mcdonalds not make all meals instead of selling a franchise, or Tim Hortons (Starbucks if you are in the U.S.) There is money in the sales and there is money in the product, it just depends on what you do with it. __________________ My God there's Porn on here! Still on the Beach !!! Last edited by JimmiDean; 10-18-2005 at 06:15 PM.. Reason: Spelling

10-18-2005, 06:20 PM	#55
2MuchMark Videochat Solutions Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 49,287	A few replies to a few people Pleasurepays: You are absolutely right. Software and a website acount for only a small percentage of what you need to do. You need to market like crazy, and then service your customers like crazy afterwards to make sure they are happy and come back for more. Anytime a customer calls us and asks about our system, we always let them know about what other expenses are involved, and what kind of commitment they have to make. Generally, if they aren't prepared to treat it like a real business, then they are doomed to fail. JimmiDean: Thank you for your support! 2-Way Video: Unfortunately, LiveCamNetwork does not support 2-way video at this time. We had started to include it into version 2.0 but have decided against it for several reasons. I am sure there are other ways to have 2-way video though. FLASH has a pretty easy way to do it. You may want to check out Macromedia.com for info on their video system. I seem to recall an adult website that had 2-way video but I can't remember the name. If anyone reading this knows of one, please post it here. Cheers!! Mark Prince http://www.2much.net