Im roughly at 1:8000 with ccbill - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

woj · 10-14-2005, 03:21 PM

50........

adultchica · 10-14-2005, 03:22 PM

51 bad ccbill converts lol ...woj you beat me

angermanagement · 10-14-2005, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

1:1000
1000 raw hits --> 600 uniques --> 200 2nd page --> 20 join page
So you can see it also as:
1:600
1:200
1:20
depending on how the sponsor counts the clicks

So exactly what sponsors count clicks like it would it show 1/200?

porndollar? wegcash? topbucks?
TCG? bangbros?

Machete_ · 10-14-2005, 03:40 PM

selena · 10-14-2005, 03:58 PM

I am at 1:2042 for the payweek and at 1:1667 for October on combined CCBill sponsors.

RogerV · 10-14-2005, 04:00 PM

Try us out... then post your conversions

StudioCash Luke · 10-14-2005, 04:05 PM

1:8000, holy moly.

Series · 10-14-2005, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

sometimes they scrub harder, as does paycom.. it happens.. it cant be sunny all the time

duke

well, for me, it isn't an isolated bad week but rather a gradual decline over several months.

Rex · 10-14-2005, 04:10 PM

1:13691 for the month so far, and I have no idea where the fuck I have these damn links on my sites...but they are gone as soon as I can locate them.

The only savior to these damn CCbill stats are meslissa midwest and stupid coeds

BlackCrayon · 10-14-2005, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angermanagement

So exactly what sponsors count clicks like it would it show 1/200?

porndollar? wegcash? topbucks?
TCG? bangbros?

not sure about porndollar or wegcash but topbucks is second page, as is bangbros. tcg shows first page hits but counts the ratio from the join page.

Theo · 10-14-2005, 04:35 PM

I'm gonna tell you why the majority of you are getting such ratios. CCBILL is victim of their own good CS on this. Everyone that one day woke up from wrong side and decided to enter "the easy" paysite business in hope to become multi millionaire picked CCBILL as billing processor. Why? Because it's the processor that gives you the less hassle over approval and time needed to get your site up. Everybody knows that.

Running a paysite is hard business and running an affiliate program is even harder. Takes responsibility, knowledge, time and money. Last month we spent over 150k just in content and every tour and creative is extensively tested with traffic before going live. You can buy the average overall sponsor that brings you such shitty ratios with much less money. What does "combined CCBill sponsors" means? Sorry to say that, but this is far from smart analogy to make.

strobi · 10-14-2005, 04:38 PM

1:946 across the board... not bad for 1st page hits!

Fleshlight · 10-14-2005, 05:08 PM

Count your own clicks with adcycle or phpadsnew. Both are free.

Both thehun and madthumbs are doing a .25% from a high ctr banner and this FPA.

andrej_NDC · 10-14-2005, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angermanagement

So exactly what sponsors count clicks like it would it show 1/200?

porndollar? wegcash? topbucks?
TCG? bangbros?

for some reason sponsors who count 2nd page or join page uniques think its bashing, when you tell the truth about it, so I rather wont say anything

Hunter_ST · 10-14-2005, 06:07 PM

Being a paysite owner, we get emails when a card is declined... and there aren't many of those happening to us at all...

Unless CCBill isn't sending out emails to us on all declines.

Just my 2 cents.

Webby · 10-14-2005, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

damn dude! I want your traffic! 3000 signups from one unique! Nice!

You *really* envious eh?

Sorry man.. just gonna flush thru the traffic to our own sites! The conversations/bottom line figure on that comes to more than CCBill could ever payout on their shit - even on a good day!

mn · 10-14-2005, 06:21 PM

ccbill scrubs webmasters individually. Eg. a EU-webmaster will most likely be scrubbed harder than a US webmaster.

This is unknown facts to most of you. Im just telling the thruth ;)

Have a good weekend.

Webby · 10-14-2005, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

I'm gonna tell you why the majority of you are getting such ratios. CCBILL is victim of their own good CS on this. Everyone that one day woke up from wrong side and decided to enter "the easy" paysite business in hope to become multi millionaire picked CCBILL as billing processor. Why? Because it's the processor that gives you the less hassle over approval and time needed to get your site up. Everybody knows that.

Yep!

We are talking about sending traffic to a load of wannabees.

Hell.. even some of the hyped "big" sites are such a pathetic load of junk, what chance?

Veterans Day · 10-14-2005, 06:23 PM

One of the main reasons I have left adult almost all together except my trusty AFF and made google Adsense my number 1 income source, you just cant fuck with that model and it annihalates my earnings I made in adult. I feel for you guys. But it doesn't suprise me in the least

andrej_NDC · 10-14-2005, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mn

Eg. a EU-webmaster will most likely be scrubbed harder than a US webmaster.

I would say its the opposite.

Gottis · 10-14-2005, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hunter_ST

Being a paysite owner, we get emails when a card is declined... and there aren't many of those happening to us at all...

Unless CCBill isn't sending out emails to us on all declines.

Just my 2 cents.

Today's truth, I'm not getting too many of those emails either. Sales are just down.

Wolfy · 10-14-2005, 06:37 PM

ccbill uniques:

today: 1:482
this month: 1:1128
this year: 1:867

I'm not going to complain, if I can't trust ccbill... well, fuck it all. Back to McDonalds for me.

khs · 10-14-2005, 06:53 PM

I dropped ccbill many moons ago...

Violetta · 10-14-2005, 11:03 PM

So where did Franck and ccbill go?

Babagirls · 10-14-2005, 11:12 PM

i'm just under 1:2000 across the board.

uno · 10-14-2005, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veterans Day

One of the main reasons I have left adult almost all together except my trusty AFF and made google Adsense my number 1 income source, you just cant fuck with that model and it annihalates my earnings I made in adult. I feel for you guys. But it doesn't suprise me in the least

Glad adsense is working out for you!

JasonB · 10-14-2005, 11:22 PM

im 1:358 this month sofar.
guess it's all what you're promoting & how

mostly all:
http://www.bukkakebath.com
http://www.atkingdom.com
http://www.thedicksuckers.com

Veterans Day · 10-14-2005, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uno

Glad adsense is working out for you!

hit me up we been outta tuch and I got new shit runnin in mainstream that is sickening

squizzel · 10-15-2005, 07:54 AM

1:1000 for me making 10+ joins a day. Traffic comes from galleries, seo and my portals.

bigdog · 10-15-2005, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

I'm gonna tell you why the majority of you are getting such ratios. CCBILL is victim of their own good CS on this. Everyone that one day woke up from wrong side and decided to enter "the easy" paysite business in hope to become multi millionaire picked CCBILL as billing processor. Why? Because it's the processor that gives you the less hassle over approval and time needed to get your site up. Everybody knows that.

Running a paysite is hard business and running an affiliate program is even harder. Takes responsibility, knowledge, time and money. Last month we spent over 150k just in content and every tour and creative is extensively tested with traffic before going live. You can buy the average overall sponsor that brings you such shitty ratios with much less money. What does "combined CCBill sponsors" means? Sorry to say that, but this is far from smart analogy to make.

Good points I have said before there must be a reason why epoch has never upgraded their stat system, they don't want to deal with a lot of the samller paysites that ccbill attracts.

hentaivip · 10-15-2005, 08:58 AM

I love CCbill

Try my sig

pornguy · 10-15-2005, 09:02 AM

The last two days have been a little slow with ccbill. But most of our customers are still getting about a 38 to 46% rebill ratio.

BeatingSkull · 10-15-2005, 09:03 AM

last stats overall for ccbill 0:265
now, for that period does that mean only 265 people clicked the link on the gallery that goes to the tour, or does it mean only 265 people clicked the join link on the tour? I never understood this formula.

Anna_O · 10-15-2005, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

I would say its the opposite.

I would say it depends on the country...

fetishblog · 10-15-2005, 09:29 AM

I'm at 1:4206.2 for the year so far with CCBill.

imageman · 10-15-2005, 09:49 AM

This seems to be exactly the problem and add to this the following;
Too much free porn
Huge numbers of adult sites so the surfer has more to chose from hence less members available for each site.
Visa turning up the heat on charge backs.
Seasonal changes.
The economic climate is getting worse not better ( thanks Bush !!)
Interest rates going up not down
House prices (in California maybe elsewhere ? ) going down.
Cost of gas at a record high.
Cost of fossil fuels expected to rise by 48% this winter !!

Add this all up and people just don't have a lot of spare cash to spend on porn........

Quote:

Originally Posted by gdog

Are we getting screwed over with all the scrubbing these days? Joins are just not what they used to be and CCBill and Epoch control the game pretty much so we are at the mercy of them. I love both companies but is there something going on at the top that they cannot process cards like they used too, are there more restrictions being placed on them to maintain their merchant bank accounts?

G

Jonny-TXT · 10-15-2005, 11:33 AM

BlackCrayon · 10-15-2005, 12:04 PM

im about 1:950 for the year overall but i don't send much traffic to ccbill. just old links mostly. there are some big programs that still use ccbill that still seem to convert.

corvette · 10-15-2005, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockatansky

So where did Franck and ccbill go?

As much as I doubt that it is a technical issue, I would like to verify this by testing the link

beta-tester · 10-15-2005, 06:48 PM

very very bad for this month...
1:6524 so far

(

!

faxxaff · 10-15-2005, 06:59 PM

I do ok.

About 1:1000 in average ever since I started to promote ccbill programs in 2000. About 3 months ago I had one very bad month with about 1:5000 but sales went up again and are doing very well, now.

CCBill - Bill · 10-15-2005, 07:13 PM

Any of our Client Support Specialists would be more than happy to look into this. Please feel free to contact either Client Support or myself directly.

MrVids · 10-15-2005, 07:58 PM

1:914 yesterday
1:1,065 today

you're promoting the wrong shit ;)

DirkMagnum · 10-15-2005, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corvette

As much as I doubt that it is a technical issue, I would like to verify this by testing the link

don't concern yourself too much, Franck is a schmoe in this market. His work is really sub standard. He'd liketo blame the processor for his short comings, carry on about your day.

Dirty F · 10-15-2005, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corvette

As much as I doubt that it is a technical issue, I would like to verify this by testing the link

No need to. Its not just 1 link i added wrong. You can test all you want, it wont change a thing.

Thanks though.

Dirty F · 10-15-2005, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirkMagnum

don't concern yourself too much, Franck is a schmoe in this market. His work is really sub standard. He'd liketo blame the processor for his short comings, carry on about your day.

Hey dickface, point me out where i blamed the processor.
Now.

Or shut your ugly hole.

Dirty F · 10-15-2005, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirkMagnum

don't concern yourself too much, Franck is a schmoe in this market. His work is really sub standard. He'd liketo blame the processor for his short comings, carry on about your day.

Oh btw mr bigshot, you might want to check your income, i mean your 200 hits a day tgp, all your thumbs are 404.

Damn, i always feel bad when i get bashed by the big guys in this industry.

BeatingSkull · 10-15-2005, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirkMagnum

He'd liketo blame the processor for his short comings, carry on about your day.

only replies other than 1 or 2 all show extremely poor ratios

either zeros or 1 in thousands.. with other sponsors you'd always get better than 1:500 but this shit looks crazy

adultchica · 10-15-2005, 08:31 PM

Youre right Beating Skull.

I've mentioned it before, but I didn't want to say which program

1: 14,238 using CCBILL

adultchica · 10-15-2005, 08:31 PM

Should I say the program? lol

10-14-2005, 03:21 PM	#51
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10-14-2005, 03:22 PM	#52
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10-14-2005, 03:58 PM	#55
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10-14-2005, 04:05 PM	#57
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10-14-2005, 04:10 PM	#59
Rex Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: ohio Posts: 2,241	1:13691 for the month so far, and I have no idea where the fuck I have these damn links on my sites...but they are gone as soon as I can locate them. The only savior to these damn CCbill stats are meslissa midwest and stupid coeds __________________ I don't own RexMag anymore.

10-14-2005, 03:40 PM	#54
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10-14-2005, 04:00 PM	#56
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10-14-2005, 04:35 PM	#61
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	I'm gonna tell you why the majority of you are getting such ratios. CCBILL is victim of their own good CS on this. Everyone that one day woke up from wrong side and decided to enter "the easy" paysite business in hope to become multi millionaire picked CCBILL as billing processor. Why? Because it's the processor that gives you the less hassle over approval and time needed to get your site up. Everybody knows that. Running a paysite is hard business and running an affiliate program is even harder. Takes responsibility, knowledge, time and money. Last month we spent over 150k just in content and every tour and creative is extensively tested with traffic before going live. You can buy the average overall sponsor that brings you such shitty ratios with much less money. What does "combined CCBill sponsors" means? Sorry to say that, but this is far from smart analogy to make.

10-14-2005, 04:38 PM	#62
strobi Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 7,383	1:946 across the board... not bad for 1st page hits!

10-14-2005, 05:08 PM	#63
Fleshlight Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 127	Count your own clicks with adcycle or phpadsnew. Both are free. Both thehun and madthumbs are doing a .25% from a high ctr banner and this FPA. Last edited by Fleshlight; 10-14-2005 at 05:11 PM..

10-14-2005, 06:07 PM	#65
Hunter_ST Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Getting messy... Posts: 763	Being a paysite owner, we get emails when a card is declined... and there aren't many of those happening to us at all... Unless CCBill isn't sending out emails to us on all declines. Just my 2 cents. __________________ Splosh Cash Wet and Messy Fetish Program I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.

10-14-2005, 06:21 PM	#67
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10-14-2005, 06:23 PM	#69
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10-14-2005, 06:37 PM	#72
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10-14-2005, 06:53 PM	#73
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10-14-2005, 11:03 PM	#74
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10-14-2005, 11:22 PM	#77
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10-15-2005, 07:54 AM	#79
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10-15-2005, 09:02 AM	#82
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10-15-2005, 09:03 AM	#83
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10-15-2005, 09:29 AM	#85
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10-15-2005, 11:33 AM	#87
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10-15-2005, 12:04 PM	#88
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10-15-2005, 06:48 PM	#90
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10-15-2005, 06:59 PM	#91
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10-15-2005, 07:13 PM	#92
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10-15-2005, 07:58 PM	#93
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10-15-2005, 08:31 PM	#99
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10-15-2005, 08:31 PM	#100
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