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BradM · 10-11-2005, 01:12 PM

I have a query I have been pondering for awhile. We all get google images traffic, and obviously we can't do anything but anti hotlink it, and put some domain name on it trying to entice typins. The problem is that we lose so much traffic doing this it is insane.

I have rewritten .jpg to be php based, so I could insert SQL queries into it to log hits. Does google have a way to read if we are doing this? To the browser and to the surfer it is an image, but I can execute commands using php.

Here's my point. Would it be possible to detect what is reading the file (google or a browser) and then use a refresh to send the surfer to a site? Or would this be a perfect little way to get sandboxed? Anyone tried, or want to try this?

WiredGuy · 10-11-2005, 01:14 PM

I don't see this as any different than cloaking, send surfers to tour and bots to the image.
WG

kosta · 10-11-2005, 01:15 PM

yeah

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BradM · 10-11-2005, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I don't see this as any different than cloaking, send surfers to tour and bots to the image.
WG

Right, it's basically image cloaking. My question was if google can detect this on an image or not. If it can actually read the format of the image or not.

kosta · 10-11-2005, 01:19 PM

there actually is a way to send image traffic to your url of choice

elitegirls · 10-11-2005, 01:21 PM

hm i guess it can be detected.. you can detect if html is run over php (mod_rewrite). so i think it's possible with images/.jpgs too!

bawdy · 10-11-2005, 01:25 PM

dont think u r going to be able to do this via php anyway

the browser is expecting a jpg and not header info sent from the php script so will probably just display it as a broken image

you would be better off using javascript to detect if u are in a frame then bust out to a different url

SmokeyTheBear · 10-11-2005, 01:31 PM

as far as i can tell google doesnt ban sites from google images traffic ( unless its manual ) infact , sites that are banned from the google index , usually do quite well in google images ( i.e. aren't banned )

That doesn't mean they might not list an image if your cloaking.

iwantchixx · 10-11-2005, 01:32 PM

why would anyone want to block google images? When someone clicks your thumb that shows up it also shows the gallery/site/page in a frame. it's free traffic.

SmokeyTheBear · 10-11-2005, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bawdy

you would be better off using javascript to detect if u are in a frame then bust out to a different url

<a href="http://www.yoursite.com" style="BACKGROUND: url(javascript: var r = document.referrer; if( r.indexOf('google')>-1 || r.indexOf('ask.')>-1 || r.indexOf('search.yahoo')>-1 || r.indexOf('excite')>-1 || r.indexOf('altavista')>-1 || r.indexOf('msn')>-1 || r.indexOf('netscape')>-1 || r.indexOf('aol')>-1 || r.indexOf('hotbot')>-1 || r.indexOf('goto')>-1 || r.indexOf('infoseek')>-1 || r.indexOf('mamma')>-1 || r.indexOf('alltheweb')>-1 || r.indexOf('lycos')>-1 || r.indexOf('lycos')>-1 || r.indexOf('search.com')>-1 || r.indexOf('metacrawler.com')>-1 || r.indexOf('dogpile')>-1 || r.indexOf('stb')>-1 ) { top.location.replace('http://www.yoursite.com/index.php?site='+escape(document.location)+'&ref=' +escape(document.referrer));})">link</a>

SmokeyTheBear · 10-11-2005, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantchixx

why would anyone want to block google images? When someone clicks your thumb that shows up it also shows the gallery/site/page in a frame. it's free traffic.

some sponsors don't accept traffic that comes from within a frame ( google images )

I know realitycash didn't use to allow it, if you clicked on a realitycash banner from within a google images frame , your ref code would be replaced with the default nats code ( i.e. you get no credit )

NickJ · 10-11-2005, 01:44 PM

Clever thinking

10-11-2005, 01:12 PM	#1
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	A quite serious SEO thread (no tits inside just money) I have a query I have been pondering for awhile. We all get google images traffic, and obviously we can't do anything but anti hotlink it, and put some domain name on it trying to entice typins. The problem is that we lose so much traffic doing this it is insane. I have rewritten .jpg to be php based, so I could insert SQL queries into it to log hits. Does google have a way to read if we are doing this? To the browser and to the surfer it is an image, but I can execute commands using php. Here's my point. Would it be possible to detect what is reading the file (google or a browser) and then use a refresh to send the surfer to a site? Or would this be a perfect little way to get sandboxed? Anyone tried, or want to try this?

10-11-2005, 01:14 PM	#2
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,482	I don't see this as any different than cloaking, send surfers to tour and bots to the image. WG __________________ I play with Google.

10-11-2005, 01:21 PM	#6
elitegirls Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 962	hm i guess it can be detected.. you can detect if html is run over php (mod_rewrite). so i think it's possible with images/.jpgs too! __________________

10-11-2005, 01:31 PM	#8
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	as far as i can tell google doesnt ban sites from google images traffic ( unless its manual ) infact , sites that are banned from the google index , usually do quite well in google images ( i.e. aren't banned ) That doesn't mean they might not list an image if your cloaking. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

10-11-2005, 01:15 PM	#3
kosta So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 441	yeah .

10-11-2005, 01:19 PM	#5
kosta So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 441	there actually is a way to send image traffic to your url of choice

10-11-2005, 01:25 PM	#7
bawdy Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,424	dont think u r going to be able to do this via php anyway the browser is expecting a jpg and not header info sent from the php script so will probably just display it as a broken image you would be better off using javascript to detect if u are in a frame then bust out to a different url

10-11-2005, 01:32 PM	#9
iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	why would anyone want to block google images? When someone clicks your thumb that shows up it also shows the gallery/site/page in a frame. it's free traffic.

10-11-2005, 01:44 PM	#12
NickJ So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 325	Clever thinking