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BradM 10-11-2005 01:12 PM

A quite serious SEO thread (no tits inside just money)
 
I have a query I have been pondering for awhile. We all get google images traffic, and obviously we can't do anything but anti hotlink it, and put some domain name on it trying to entice typins. The problem is that we lose so much traffic doing this it is insane.

I have rewritten .jpg to be php based, so I could insert SQL queries into it to log hits. Does google have a way to read if we are doing this? To the browser and to the surfer it is an image, but I can execute commands using php.

Here's my point. Would it be possible to detect what is reading the file (google or a browser) and then use a refresh to send the surfer to a site? Or would this be a perfect little way to get sandboxed? Anyone tried, or want to try this?

WiredGuy 10-11-2005 01:14 PM

I don't see this as any different than cloaking, send surfers to tour and bots to the image.
WG

kosta 10-11-2005 01:15 PM

yeah

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BradM 10-11-2005 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy
I don't see this as any different than cloaking, send surfers to tour and bots to the image.
WG

Right, it's basically image cloaking. My question was if google can detect this on an image or not. If it can actually read the format of the image or not.

kosta 10-11-2005 01:19 PM

there actually is a way to send image traffic to your url of choice

elitegirls 10-11-2005 01:21 PM

hm i guess it can be detected.. you can detect if html is run over php (mod_rewrite). so i think it's possible with images/.jpgs too!

bawdy 10-11-2005 01:25 PM

dont think u r going to be able to do this via php anyway

the browser is expecting a jpg and not header info sent from the php script so will probably just display it as a broken image

you would be better off using javascript to detect if u are in a frame then bust out to a different url

SmokeyTheBear 10-11-2005 01:31 PM

as far as i can tell google doesnt ban sites from google images traffic ( unless its manual ) infact , sites that are banned from the google index , usually do quite well in google images ( i.e. aren't banned )

That doesn't mean they might not list an image if your cloaking.

iwantchixx 10-11-2005 01:32 PM

why would anyone want to block google images? When someone clicks your thumb that shows up it also shows the gallery/site/page in a frame. it's free traffic.

SmokeyTheBear 10-11-2005 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bawdy
you would be better off using javascript to detect if u are in a frame then bust out to a different url

<a href="http://www.yoursite.com" style="BACKGROUND: url(javascript: var r = document.referrer; if( r.indexOf('google')>-1 || r.indexOf('ask.')>-1 || r.indexOf('search.yahoo')>-1 || r.indexOf('excite')>-1 || r.indexOf('altavista')>-1 || r.indexOf('msn')>-1 || r.indexOf('netscape')>-1 || r.indexOf('aol')>-1 || r.indexOf('hotbot')>-1 || r.indexOf('goto')>-1 || r.indexOf('infoseek')>-1 || r.indexOf('mamma')>-1 || r.indexOf('alltheweb')>-1 || r.indexOf('lycos')>-1 || r.indexOf('lycos')>-1 || r.indexOf('search.com')>-1 || r.indexOf('metacrawler.com')>-1 || r.indexOf('dogpile')>-1 || r.indexOf('stb')>-1 ) { top.location.replace('http://www.yoursite.com/index.php?site='+escape(document.location)+'&ref=' +escape(document.referrer));})">link</a>

SmokeyTheBear 10-11-2005 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantchixx
why would anyone want to block google images? When someone clicks your thumb that shows up it also shows the gallery/site/page in a frame. it's free traffic.

some sponsors don't accept traffic that comes from within a frame ( google images )

I know realitycash didn't use to allow it, if you clicked on a realitycash banner from within a google images frame , your ref code would be replaced with the default nats code ( i.e. you get no credit )

NickJ 10-11-2005 01:44 PM

Clever thinking


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