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Old 10-11-2005, 06:32 AM   #1
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NowThatsFuckedUp Creator Arrested

http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=10691

Chris was elated recently when he got some major airtime on some local TV news station... I guess it wasn't such a good thing after all

Such a shame...what a great guy

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Old 10-11-2005, 06:35 AM   #2
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Sorry for the re-post, btw
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Old 10-11-2005, 06:35 AM   #3
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Sorry for the re-post, btw
np news is always nice even after the 5th repost
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Old 10-11-2005, 06:35 AM   #4
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its been posted a million times allready
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Old 10-11-2005, 06:37 AM   #5
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np news is always nice even after the 5th repost
I try to give a unique perspective to the story, based on my own personal interaction with Chris
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Old 10-11-2005, 06:38 AM   #6
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I try to give a unique perspective to the story, based on my own personal interaction with Chris
you know the guy.. ok.. so tell me : why did he get arrested if the whole thing was set to a dutch company?
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Old 10-11-2005, 06:41 AM   #7
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you know the guy.. ok.. so tell me : why did he get arrested if the whole thing was set to a dutch company?
Chris lives in Flordia...I don't know anything about his company being based in Holland. Officially he was arrested because of obscenity laws.
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Old 10-11-2005, 06:53 AM   #8
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Chris lives in Flordia...I don't know anything about his company being based in Holland. Officially he was arrested because of obscenity laws.
k well it was in the news here his site was owned by a dutch company.

"De domeinnaam staat geregistreerd bij een bedrijf in Utrecht."

meaning the domain was registered at a company in Utrecht/Holland. Weird cause I checked and its set to Orlando. Guess they kicked his ass.
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Old 10-11-2005, 06:55 AM   #9
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ah ok got it :

This site is owned and operated out of Amsterdam, Netherlands and adheres to all Dutch laws and regulations regarding nudity and adult content
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Old 10-11-2005, 06:59 AM   #10
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ah ok got it :

This site is owned and operated out of Amsterdam, Netherlands and adheres to all Dutch laws and regulations regarding nudity and adult content
So you think Chris is not the owner of the site?
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Old 10-11-2005, 08:16 AM   #11
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So you think Chris is not the owner of the site?
all the pics were submitted by members of the site. none by him.


chris was an awesome guy, dealt with him on many of occasions.
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Old 10-11-2005, 08:45 AM   #12
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This is pretty fucked up, no pun intended..

"Currently Wilson is being charged with the 300 separate accounts individually, which Walters said requires 300 separate bonds and makes it logistically very difficult to get him out of jail."
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Old 10-11-2005, 08:48 AM   #13
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ah ok got it :

This site is owned and operated out of Amsterdam, Netherlands and adheres to all Dutch laws and regulations regarding nudity and adult content
The cops here said they don't care where the server was.

This really sets a dangerous precedent that all the folks who think they are immune from prosecution because their servers are offshore.

The only way to be offshore is to be offshore and that includes you the webmaster as well.

If you live in the US it apparently now doesn't matter where your server equipment or company is located.
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Old 10-11-2005, 08:52 AM   #14
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The cops here said they don't care where the server was.

This really sets a dangerous precedent that all the folks who think they are immune from prosecution because their servers are offshore.

The only way to be offshore is to be offshore and that includes you the webmaster as well.

If you live in the US it apparently now doesn't matter where your server equipment or company is located.
Even if you are off shore completely, if you are a US citizen you still have to follow the US laws.
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Old 10-11-2005, 08:57 AM   #15
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Even if you are off shore completely, if you are a US citizen you still have to follow the US laws.
correct. this wasnt offshore. you cant do half and expect everything to go ok. plus holland isnt heaven. we still have laws you gotta obey. plus the domain is set to his private adress it seems.
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Old 10-11-2005, 08:58 AM   #16
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Old news.... still fucked up tho.
Glad I don't live in a police state.
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Old 10-11-2005, 09:00 AM   #17
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Even if you are off shore completely, if you are a US citizen you still have to follow the US laws.
you know Im wondering if thats true.

say you wanna host an online weed selling site.

dutch server
contracts with the host to a dutch company
url contacts to a dutch company
dutch company not privately owned
dutch cc processor
etc etc

then why would you still need to obey US laws?

fill me in
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Old 10-11-2005, 09:06 AM   #18
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you know Im wondering if thats true.

say you wanna host an online weed selling site.

dutch server
contracts with the host to a dutch company
url contacts to a dutch company
dutch company not privately owned
dutch cc processor
etc etc

then why would you still need to obey US laws?

fill me in
You would have to talk to a lawyer as I'm not one

However, my working theory is if you are a US citizen then no matter where you live you still have to follow US laws. Same goes if you are a non US citizen and company but are selling your products to people in the US. You still have to follow the U.S's laws. That or expect a long wait in the customs office if you ever visit this country.


Using your weed site as an example.. Let's say I moved to Columbia and started selling cocaine to people in the US.. Don't yea think the US govt would come after me or at least try like hell?
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Old 10-11-2005, 09:08 AM   #19
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The US Goverment

The government obviously didn't like the soldiers' nude pictures.
He was a target that is undeniable.

He would give away passes to people and have them post nude pictures of Army, Navy, and Marinees women.
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You would have to talk to a lawyer as I'm not one

However, my working theory is if you are a US citizen then no matter where you live you still have to follow US laws. Same goes if you are a non US citizen and company but are selling your products to people in the US. You still have to follow the U.S's laws. That or expect a long wait in the customs office if you ever visit this country.


Using your weed site as an example.. Let's say I moved to Columbia and started selling cocaine to people in the US.. Don't yea think the US govt would come after me or at least try like hell?
theyll try like hell yes for sure. even here with weed being legal up to certain standards its impossible to get a processor to work with, Ive tried that long ago, not even for real just for fun, cause some dailup 1-900 guy here said hed sell anything.

still you can get away with a lot here, a lot more then in the US. sometimes thats bad sometimes thats good.

lemme quote an example : last year the police came up with a new law, what and how you could swear at them, so fuck off is ok moron too but asshole isnt. dont you just love how everything is discussable here. the US police would put you in jail the first time youre telling them to fuck off immediately.

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Old 10-11-2005, 09:21 AM   #21
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it was only matter of time. He was looking for trouble with such site.


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Old 10-11-2005, 09:43 AM   #22
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Is it just me or anyone notice that this guy since this went down the story is NOT in the news?
By all weight and measure this is a big story.

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