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brand0n · 10-10-2005, 11:09 AM

shit keeps pissin me off

ok...

lets say im currently sending sponsor a traffic. and im coverting 1:500 with them. now sponsor b wants me to try em out, and im down ill give it a whirl.
same traffic, converts 1:1000

the min payout is 2 or 3 sales. so do you
a) send them more traffic at a fucked up ratio to make min payment (knowing you are losing money no matter what)
b) say fuck it, dont send em another click and go back to sponsor a pronto
c) post a post on gfy how min payouts stop alot of people from trying out your programs due to this kinda shit.

sexyclicks · 10-10-2005, 11:10 AM

true true

LiveDose · 10-10-2005, 11:10 AM

Make the min and move on. Unless the ratio is ridiculous.

pawsregd · 10-10-2005, 11:10 AM

I hear ya

pornguy · 10-10-2005, 11:12 AM

Look for what makes you happy, but never let them keep your money!

Furious_Male · 10-10-2005, 11:16 AM

I would try a lot more programs as well. You bring up valid points. If program owners want us to try them out it would be nice if they were fair and paid out if things didn't work out.

MrIzzz · 10-10-2005, 11:19 AM

fuck that...see sig and promote mallcom now!!!!!!!! or else i will call you a pickle-kisser

Juilan · 10-10-2005, 11:21 AM

check the minimum payouts BEFORE your start promoting HottestSite

MickeyG · 10-10-2005, 11:24 AM

I get pissed and try and meet the mins, but then I really get a bad taste for the sponsor when u see it took 100000 million clicks just to get $50

Michael O · 10-10-2005, 12:17 PM

Yeah it sucks

I have a lot of sponsors with $25-80 in the account

Manowar · 10-10-2005, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keyser Soze

Yeah it sucks

I have a lot of sponsors with $25-80 in the account

same here

beemk · 10-10-2005, 12:21 PM

anyone with a decent amount of traffic can send a sponsor 3-4 sales if they can send them one. if they suck that much i usually dont get to the point where i get one sale and i stop promoting them.

strobi · 10-10-2005, 01:00 PM

I prefer epass payments, signed up for G3X, 500$ minimum, ouch!

the Shemp · 10-10-2005, 01:03 PM

shemp advice:

if you are one sale short, just buy a membership yourself, make the minimum and then move on....

After Shock Media · 10-10-2005, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp

shemp advice:

if you are one sale short, just buy a membership yourself, make the minimum and then move on....

Wouldnt many sponsors see this as some form of fraud. Specially if they are a PPS program?

the Shemp · 10-10-2005, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Wouldnt many sponsors see this as some form of fraud. Specially if they are a PPS program?

absolutely

Mako · 10-10-2005, 01:12 PM

The day I have to worry about sweating a "minimum payout" with my traffic for any program is the day I quit the industry.

Please.

Dalai lama · 10-10-2005, 01:12 PM

I've paid affiliates before who didnt reach the min payout and stopped to promote the program

kaori · 10-10-2005, 01:15 PM

yeah.. I don't like that either

I'm not a big enough fish to quickly send 4 sales to every sponsor I promote.... so a lot of them have money waiting for me..
my last 'tryout sponsor' converted at:
1:2147 JOIN page uniques for october so far... and that one sale was a trial

Doctor Dre · 10-10-2005, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp

shemp advice:

if you are one sale short, just buy a membership yourself, make the minimum and then move on....

You'll get your acc canned.

I don't really care personally ... If the sponsors looks good, even if it has a 250 $ min payout I'l try it . If after one or two sale it don't fit, I'l just drop it . 25-30 $ lost aiin't that bad ...

u-Bob · 10-10-2005, 01:26 PM

what really sucks: sponsors that won't pay you for webmaster referrals unless you send them signups.

brand0n · 10-10-2005, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

You'll get your acc canned.

I don't really care personally ... If the sponsors looks good, even if it has a 250 $ min payout I'l try it . If after one or two sale it don't fit, I'l just drop it . 25-30 $ lost aiin't that bad ...

fuck that. i want my 20 bucks lol.

i mean.. its my 20 bucks right? and dont give me shit that it costs x to send x its just another name and amount on payroll

UltraSonic · 10-10-2005, 01:29 PM

If i have 1:900 and didn't reach my min payout i'm gone..... nomather what i have in the account.

Dalai lama · 10-10-2005, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp

shemp advice:

if you are one sale short, just buy a membership yourself, make the minimum and then move on....

I liked your other advice better, the TGP one

elitetec · 10-10-2005, 01:31 PM

check the dialer in my sig i got a check for $10

Dalai lama · 10-10-2005, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UltraSonic

If i have 1:900 and didn't reach my min payout i'm gone..... nomather what i have in the account.

So basicly, if your first sale doesnt hit before 900 uniques, you came to the conclussion the program sucks and start to promote a other program

Brad Mitchell · 10-10-2005, 01:33 PM

It's not very wise to make a conversion decision too quickly. The way math works out on that, you don't even have a decent statistical sampling until you've sent many thousands of clickthroughs (if not more).

Brad

UltraSonic · 10-10-2005, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dalai lama

So basicly, if your first sale doesnt hit before 900 uniques, you came to the conclussion the program sucks and start to promote a other program

Well, i basicly use SE traffic so if it doesn't hit at 1:900 then either the sponsor is freakin up, the site is no good or something is wrong with billing

Tom_PM · 10-10-2005, 01:36 PM

High minimum payout amounts are a drag. It's one of the first things I look for in the TOS when considering promoting a program.

cool1 · 10-10-2005, 01:53 PM

There should be no minimum payouts, if you earn it you should get it no matter how much it is. Other wise you are being ripped off if you don't make the minimum and then drop the sponsor.

Jay · 10-10-2005, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cool1

There should be no minimum payouts, if you earn it you should get it no matter how much it is. Other wise you are being ripped off if you don't make the minimum and then drop the sponsor.

You need to have a min payout or you could end up sending out 500 2 cent checks.

That being said...TrafficCashGold only has a $5.00 min payout.

Vitasoy · 10-10-2005, 02:05 PM

I hear ya man... Especially the one that has $200 min payout for (foreigners)... I mean wtf! Mind you I've been paid by them a few times now.

BlingDaddy · 10-10-2005, 02:12 PM

Some good points here.

cool1 · 10-10-2005, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay

You need to have a min payout or you could end up sending out 500 2 cent checks.

That being said...TrafficCashGold only has a $5.00 min payout.

OK I can understand that if it was a pay per click, but on a PPS or rev share I don't believe there should not be one.

That $5.00 min at ...TCG is a good min payout for sure.

adultchica · 10-10-2005, 02:12 PM

I say if you send 1,000 hits and don't get a sale, drop em. I do that exact same thing as the person who mentioned that before. And trust me, it has always worked. The next one I try almost always converts at under 1:500 and they have my business 4 life.

RuthB · 10-10-2005, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strobi

I prefer epass payments, signed up for G3X, 500$ minimum, ouch!

It's a $500 EPASSPORTE only minimum, and that's if you don't want to pay fees.

The G3X and WEGCash minimum payout's are both $50.

For our Epassporte payments though, if you select a smaller minimum payout than $500 there is a simple $2 Epassporte fee, so it's not impossible.

Don't be scared away, just submit your request and we can update your account if you're willing to accept the small fee.

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BlingDaddy · 10-10-2005, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultchica

I say if you send 1,000 hits and don't get a sale, drop em. I do that exact same thing as the person who mentioned that before. And trust me, it has always worked. The next one I try almost always converts at under 1:500 and they have my business 4 life.

Thats pretty much what I do to. For anyone that's interested I keep all those stats updated in my siggy.

Manowar · 10-10-2005, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cool1

OK I can understand that if it was a pay per click, but on a PPS or rev share I don't believe there should not be one.

That $5.00 min at ...TCG is a good min payout for sure.

Yeah it's cool

Hardlinks · 10-10-2005, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultchica

I say if you send 1,000 hits and don't get a sale, drop em. I do that exact same thing as the person who mentioned that before. And trust me, it has always worked. The next one I try almost always converts at under 1:500 and they have my business 4 life.

Thats foolish

I often have days of 1 from 1000 then follow up with 8-10 sales the next day off the same ammount of traffic.

Until you understand the intricacies of the traffic, making harse business decisions like that will only hurt you and your bottom line.

Dalai lama · 10-10-2005, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultchica

I say if you send 1,000 hits and don't get a sale, drop em. I do that exact same thing as the person who mentioned that before. And trust me, it has always worked. The next one I try almost always converts at under 1:500 and they have my business 4 life.

That's clueless. Why do you base your decision on a 1k traffic test? Send 10k at least then judge.

BeatingSkull · 10-10-2005, 03:03 PM

back in 2000, i signed up with amazon.com made a couple sales & only made $35.. took another damn two years to make that extra $15..(wasnt pushing that hard.. threw up like 5 product links on a single site & said forget about it,,

RogerV · 10-10-2005, 03:03 PM

Try us out and you will make bank

We will do whatever it takes to make our affiliates happy
plus you know who I am and how to get a hold of me

High Quality · 10-10-2005, 03:05 PM

Its soooo true.

However, due to costs of printing checks, its viable to make a $50 min or $100.

I think most sponsors though, if you make 1 sale at a horrible ratio and you request your acct be closed, they'll most likely send you the $35 or $70 or whatever is less than the min.

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kaori Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,569	yeah.. I don't like that either I'm not a big enough fish to quickly send 4 sales to every sponsor I promote.... so a lot of them have money waiting for me.. my last 'tryout sponsor' converted at: 1:2147 JOIN page uniques for october so far... and that one sale was a trial

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10-10-2005, 02:05 PM	#32
Vitasoy GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 58,202	I hear ya man... Especially the one that has $200 min payout for (foreigners)... I mean wtf! Mind you I've been paid by them a few times now. __________________ [email protected]

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High Quality Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 5,741	Its soooo true. However, due to costs of printing checks, its viable to make a $50 min or $100. I think most sponsors though, if you make 1 sale at a horrible ratio and you request your acct be closed, they'll most likely send you the $35 or $70 or whatever is less than the min. __________________ RecurCash.com - Averaging $38/sale with 60% revshare in the first 4 months alone! Convert your TEEN traffic today @ better than 1:500 guaranteed. ICQ me: 18287590!