Do "Old Style" tours convert SE traffic better? - GoFuckYourself.com

Snake Doctor · 10-05-2005, 01:08 PM

I'm wondering if we should build separate tours for some sites for google adwords/overture etc?

I know the "reality episode style" tours tend to do better with TGP/MGP traffic, but I'm wondering if the flashy, big splash screen expensive tours do better with search engine traffic?

Any thoughts?

wha wha wha · 10-05-2005, 01:10 PM

Why not test for yourself instead of asking the idiots here who can't even make 1 sale a day?

RSD · 10-05-2005, 01:11 PM

More text and a better url rewriting can make your gallery perform bettrer.

I have a new idea of how to do some better url rewriting.. i'm researching if it is allowed for search engines. I do think so.

wha wha wha · 10-05-2005, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RSD

More text and a better url rewriting can make your gallery perform bettrer.

I have a new idea of how to do some better url rewriting.. i'm researching if it is allowed for search engines. I do think so.

See... prime example... this guy can't even read.

WiredGuy · 10-05-2005, 01:14 PM

Here's my opinion, I hate reality sites, they don't convert as well as the old style tours. I know every sponsor is about reality these days but if you can make older style tours, then you have a better chance of attractive SEO webmasters.
WG

Nysus · 10-05-2005, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by wha wha wha

See... prime example... this guy can't even read.

LOL..

Matt

RogerV · 10-05-2005, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Here's my opinion, I hate reality sites, they don't convert as well as the old style tours. I know every sponsor is about reality these days but if you can make older style tours, then you have a better chance of attractive SEO webmasters.
WG

Our sites do great with SEO

Snake Doctor · 10-05-2005, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Here's my opinion, I hate reality sites, they don't convert as well as the old style tours. I know every sponsor is about reality these days but if you can make older style tours, then you have a better chance of attractive SEO webmasters.
WG

Thanks much for the feedback.

The sites are kind of "reality" but we can also build old style flashy tours based on the niche of the site in addition to tours in an "episode" format.

Those types of tours are more expensive though, and I don't like wasting money, so I'm "doing research" with this thread.

Snake Doctor · 10-05-2005, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by wha wha wha

Why not test for yourself instead of asking the idiots here who can't even make 1 sale a day?

Because the tours I'm talking about cost probably 2-3K to have built and then I would have to buy alot of clicks to do a proper test.

There are some good SE guys that post on this board that can steer me in the right direction. (Since I'm not asking about linking strategy or really anything to do with organic listings)

wha wha wha · 10-05-2005, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

Because the tours I'm talking about cost probably 2-3K to have built and then I would have to buy alot of clicks to do a proper test.

There are some good SE guys that post on this board that can steer me in the right direction. (Since I'm not asking about linking strategy or really anything to do with organic listings)

True, but what makes you think their traffic sources are the same as yours and will convert the same? Different keywords produce completely different types of traffic..

Juno · 10-05-2005, 01:28 PM

Reality type tours work best on TGP and Free Site traffic.
Old Style best on SE traffic.

Just like SE traffic rebills bad compared to TGP traffic.

Snake Doctor · 10-05-2005, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by wha wha wha

True, but what makes you think their traffic sources are the same as yours and will convert the same? Different keywords produce completely different types of traffic..

What are you a fucking lawyer? You have to argue everything??

I'm asking a general question for a general response, if you don't have anything to contribute then find somewhere else to troll.

Snake Doctor · 10-05-2005, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Juno

Reality type tours work best on TGP and Free Site traffic.
Old Style best on SE traffic.

Just like SE traffic rebills bad compared to TGP traffic.

You know that's funny....I noticed that google adwords traffic had the worst retention out of any traffic that I threw at my last paysite.

It was shocking really.

blackmonsters · 10-05-2005, 01:31 PM

Old style flashy tours do not convert well for me.
I'm sure somebody else has a differrent experience but by far I just
skip those 5 page tour sites that don't have sample video.

I also can't convert sites with sample video embeded in the web page.
The newb surfer doesn't know how to make the video go full screen etc...
and they think all the members content will be embeded.

FuqALot · 10-05-2005, 01:34 PM

If a person is looking for porn through SE's, then he is new to the internet, therefore he is the same kind of person that used to buy in the old times and therefore old tours still convert on SE. SE = keep it simple.

Dollarmansteve · 10-05-2005, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

I'm wondering if we should build separate tours for some sites for google adwords/overture etc?

I know the "reality episode style" tours tend to do better with TGP/MGP traffic, but I'm wondering if the flashy, big splash screen expensive tours do better with search engine traffic?

Any thoughts?

I dont want to plug my program, but, from knowing what our stats are vis a vis 'reality' type tours, I would have to say that yes: 'old school' tours that are less content rich perform better with SE traffic.

edit: also, surfers looking for porn using a SE would tend to be less savvy - and pehaps not aware of the copious amounts of free content available out there via TGPs/MGPs and the less savvy the surfer, the more likely the conversion.

xxxice · 10-05-2005, 01:37 PM

I would only sign up for the reality type updated girl sites. But, then again I am not a surfer. Would be interesting to test a site that had both options with the same source of traffic. Although would be difficult to get error free results ...

bigdog · 10-05-2005, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Old style flashy tours do not convert well for me.
I'm sure somebody else has a differrent experience but by far I just
skip those 5 page tour sites that don't have sample video.

I also can't convert sites with sample video embeded in the web page.
The newb surfer doesn't know how to make the video go full screen etc...
and they think all the members content will be embeded.

never thought about that one, with the embeded videos

bigdog · 10-05-2005, 01:41 PM

i have noticed that old style tours convert better on se traffic. I can't sell old style tours on TGP and MGP traffic at all

Juno · 10-05-2005, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RogerV

Our sites do great with SEO

Spamming another thread with your program

RSD · 10-05-2005, 02:41 PM

SEO is easy targetted traffic and why can't I fuckin' read? Because I don't give an answer to his question.. well ok, in that sense your are right wha wha wha.. but my math is better than yours ;-)

But what I mean is that when an affiliate program has hosted galleries or for gallery builders I probably have an idea of how to do it better in SEs.

As you may have noticed, I am new to the adult scene, but I am not new with webmastering and SEO. I have a bunch of ringtone sites which convert like hell ...

uvort · 10-05-2005, 02:46 PM

Lenny2 -- shoot me an ICQ - 199907143. I want to talk you to about something.

wha wha wha · 10-05-2005, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

What are you a fucking lawyer? You have to argue everything??

I'm asking a general question for a general response, if you don't have anything to contribute then find somewhere else to troll.

No, just pointing out how clueless you are... carry on.

RSD · 10-06-2005, 12:27 AM

@wha wha wha

How much is 1+1 ?

bigdog · 10-07-2005, 04:29 AM

the question we should ask ourselves is why do old style tours convert better on SE traffic?

Basic_man · 10-07-2005, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Here's my opinion, I hate reality sites, they don't convert as well as the old style tours. I know every sponsor is about reality these days but if you can make older style tours, then you have a better chance of attractive SEO webmasters.
WG

If WG said it, it must be true.

jayeff · 10-07-2005, 04:57 AM

A couple of people have commented that a) "reality" tours work better with TGP's/MGP's and graphics-intensive tours with SE traffic and b) TGP/MGP traffic recurs better.

If there is any truth in this, perhaps the reason is that TGP/MGP traffic consists of generally more seasoned surfers who are aware of the limitations of online video and can therefore identify sites which have (relatively) high quality videos (via the screencaps on their "reality" tours). SE traffic has a higher proportion of newbies, many of whom may not yet be aware that video standards are much poorer than those of still photography and are therefore more drawn to "traditional" tours with apparently higher quality content.

That would be consistent with the perceived difference in rebill ratios, because again seasoned surfers are aware of the limitations of videos (production and transmission quality, load times, etc), while many newbies may assume these are limitations connected to the sites they have joined and not to the media itself.

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RSD Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 425	SEO is easy targetted traffic and why can't I fuckin' read? Because I don't give an answer to his question.. well ok, in that sense your are right wha wha wha.. but my math is better than yours ;-) But what I mean is that when an affiliate program has hosted galleries or for gallery builders I probably have an idea of how to do it better in SEs. As you may have noticed, I am new to the adult scene, but I am not new with webmastering and SEO. I have a bunch of ringtone sites which convert like hell ... Last edited by RSD; 10-05-2005 at 02:43 PM..

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10-05-2005, 01:10 PM	#2
wha wha wha So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 367	Why not test for yourself instead of asking the idiots here who can't even make 1 sale a day?

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RSD Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 425	More text and a better url rewriting can make your gallery perform bettrer. I have a new idea of how to do some better url rewriting.. i'm researching if it is allowed for search engines. I do think so.

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Juno Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 55	Reality type tours work best on TGP and Free Site traffic. Old Style best on SE traffic. Just like SE traffic rebills bad compared to TGP traffic.

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FuqALot Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Malibu Posts: 3,817	If a person is looking for porn through SE's, then he is new to the internet, therefore he is the same kind of person that used to buy in the old times and therefore old tours still convert on SE. SE = keep it simple.

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xxxice Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,042	I would only sign up for the reality type updated girl sites. But, then again I am not a surfer. Would be interesting to test a site that had both options with the same source of traffic. Although would be difficult to get error free results ...

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bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	i have noticed that old style tours convert better on se traffic. I can't sell old style tours on TGP and MGP traffic at all

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RSD Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 425	@wha wha wha How much is 1+1 ?

10-07-2005, 04:29 AM	#25
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	the question we should ask ourselves is why do old style tours convert better on SE traffic?

10-07-2005, 04:57 AM	#27
jayeff Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 2,944	A couple of people have commented that a) "reality" tours work better with TGP's/MGP's and graphics-intensive tours with SE traffic and b) TGP/MGP traffic recurs better. If there is any truth in this, perhaps the reason is that TGP/MGP traffic consists of generally more seasoned surfers who are aware of the limitations of online video and can therefore identify sites which have (relatively) high quality videos (via the screencaps on their "reality" tours). SE traffic has a higher proportion of newbies, many of whom may not yet be aware that video standards are much poorer than those of still photography and are therefore more drawn to "traditional" tours with apparently higher quality content. That would be consistent with the perceived difference in rebill ratios, because again seasoned surfers are aware of the limitations of videos (production and transmission quality, load times, etc), while many newbies may assume these are limitations connected to the sites they have joined and not to the media itself.