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Snake Doctor 10-05-2005 01:08 PM

Do "Old Style" tours convert SE traffic better?
 
I'm wondering if we should build separate tours for some sites for google adwords/overture etc?

I know the "reality episode style" tours tend to do better with TGP/MGP traffic, but I'm wondering if the flashy, big splash screen expensive tours do better with search engine traffic?

Any thoughts?

wha wha wha 10-05-2005 01:10 PM

Why not test for yourself instead of asking the idiots here who can't even make 1 sale a day?

RSD 10-05-2005 01:11 PM

More text and a better url rewriting can make your gallery perform bettrer.

I have a new idea of how to do some better url rewriting.. i'm researching if it is allowed for search engines. I do think so.

wha wha wha 10-05-2005 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSD
More text and a better url rewriting can make your gallery perform bettrer.

I have a new idea of how to do some better url rewriting.. i'm researching if it is allowed for search engines. I do think so.

See... prime example... this guy can't even read.

WiredGuy 10-05-2005 01:14 PM

Here's my opinion, I hate reality sites, they don't convert as well as the old style tours. I know every sponsor is about reality these days but if you can make older style tours, then you have a better chance of attractive SEO webmasters.
WG

Nysus 10-05-2005 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wha wha wha
See... prime example... this guy can't even read.

LOL..

Matt

RogerV 10-05-2005 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy
Here's my opinion, I hate reality sites, they don't convert as well as the old style tours. I know every sponsor is about reality these days but if you can make older style tours, then you have a better chance of attractive SEO webmasters.
WG


Our sites do great with SEO

Snake Doctor 10-05-2005 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy
Here's my opinion, I hate reality sites, they don't convert as well as the old style tours. I know every sponsor is about reality these days but if you can make older style tours, then you have a better chance of attractive SEO webmasters.
WG

Thanks much for the feedback.

The sites are kind of "reality" but we can also build old style flashy tours based on the niche of the site in addition to tours in an "episode" format.

Those types of tours are more expensive though, and I don't like wasting money, so I'm "doing research" with this thread.

Snake Doctor 10-05-2005 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wha wha wha
Why not test for yourself instead of asking the idiots here who can't even make 1 sale a day?

Because the tours I'm talking about cost probably 2-3K to have built and then I would have to buy alot of clicks to do a proper test.

There are some good SE guys that post on this board that can steer me in the right direction. (Since I'm not asking about linking strategy or really anything to do with organic listings)

wha wha wha 10-05-2005 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2
Because the tours I'm talking about cost probably 2-3K to have built and then I would have to buy alot of clicks to do a proper test.

There are some good SE guys that post on this board that can steer me in the right direction. (Since I'm not asking about linking strategy or really anything to do with organic listings)

True, but what makes you think their traffic sources are the same as yours and will convert the same? Different keywords produce completely different types of traffic..

Juno 10-05-2005 01:28 PM

Reality type tours work best on TGP and Free Site traffic.
Old Style best on SE traffic.

Just like SE traffic rebills bad compared to TGP traffic.

Snake Doctor 10-05-2005 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wha wha wha
True, but what makes you think their traffic sources are the same as yours and will convert the same? Different keywords produce completely different types of traffic..

What are you a fucking lawyer? You have to argue everything??

I'm asking a general question for a general response, if you don't have anything to contribute then find somewhere else to troll.

Snake Doctor 10-05-2005 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juno
Reality type tours work best on TGP and Free Site traffic.
Old Style best on SE traffic.

Just like SE traffic rebills bad compared to TGP traffic.

You know that's funny....I noticed that google adwords traffic had the worst retention out of any traffic that I threw at my last paysite.

It was shocking really.

blackmonsters 10-05-2005 01:31 PM

Old style flashy tours do not convert well for me.
I'm sure somebody else has a differrent experience but by far I just
skip those 5 page tour sites that don't have sample video.

I also can't convert sites with sample video embeded in the web page.
The newb surfer doesn't know how to make the video go full screen etc...
and they think all the members content will be embeded.

FuqALot 10-05-2005 01:34 PM

If a person is looking for porn through SE's, then he is new to the internet, therefore he is the same kind of person that used to buy in the old times and therefore old tours still convert on SE. SE = keep it simple.

Dollarmansteve 10-05-2005 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2
I'm wondering if we should build separate tours for some sites for google adwords/overture etc?

I know the "reality episode style" tours tend to do better with TGP/MGP traffic, but I'm wondering if the flashy, big splash screen expensive tours do better with search engine traffic?

Any thoughts?

I dont want to plug my program, but, from knowing what our stats are vis a vis 'reality' type tours, I would have to say that yes: 'old school' tours that are less content rich perform better with SE traffic.

edit: also, surfers looking for porn using a SE would tend to be less savvy - and pehaps not aware of the copious amounts of free content available out there via TGPs/MGPs and the less savvy the surfer, the more likely the conversion.

xxxice 10-05-2005 01:37 PM

I would only sign up for the reality type updated girl sites. But, then again I am not a surfer. Would be interesting to test a site that had both options with the same source of traffic. Although would be difficult to get error free results ...

bigdog 10-05-2005 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters
Old style flashy tours do not convert well for me.
I'm sure somebody else has a differrent experience but by far I just
skip those 5 page tour sites that don't have sample video.

I also can't convert sites with sample video embeded in the web page.
The newb surfer doesn't know how to make the video go full screen etc...
and they think all the members content will be embeded.


never thought about that one, with the embeded videos

bigdog 10-05-2005 01:41 PM

i have noticed that old style tours convert better on se traffic. I can't sell old style tours on TGP and MGP traffic at all

Juno 10-05-2005 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerV
Our sites do great with SEO

Spamming another thread with your program :1orglaugh

RSD 10-05-2005 02:41 PM

SEO is easy targetted traffic and why can't I fuckin' read? Because I don't give an answer to his question.. well ok, in that sense your are right wha wha wha.. but my math is better than yours ;-)

But what I mean is that when an affiliate program has hosted galleries or for gallery builders I probably have an idea of how to do it better in SEs.

As you may have noticed, I am new to the adult scene, but I am not new with webmastering and SEO. I have a bunch of ringtone sites which convert like hell ...

uvort 10-05-2005 02:46 PM

Lenny2 -- shoot me an ICQ - 199907143. I want to talk you to about something.

wha wha wha 10-05-2005 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2
What are you a fucking lawyer? You have to argue everything??

I'm asking a general question for a general response, if you don't have anything to contribute then find somewhere else to troll.

No, just pointing out how clueless you are... carry on.

RSD 10-06-2005 12:27 AM

@wha wha wha

How much is 1+1 ?

bigdog 10-07-2005 04:29 AM

the question we should ask ourselves is why do old style tours convert better on SE traffic?

Basic_man 10-07-2005 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy
Here's my opinion, I hate reality sites, they don't convert as well as the old style tours. I know every sponsor is about reality these days but if you can make older style tours, then you have a better chance of attractive SEO webmasters.
WG

If WG said it, it must be true. :thumbsup

jayeff 10-07-2005 04:57 AM

A couple of people have commented that a) "reality" tours work better with TGP's/MGP's and graphics-intensive tours with SE traffic and b) TGP/MGP traffic recurs better.

If there is any truth in this, perhaps the reason is that TGP/MGP traffic consists of generally more seasoned surfers who are aware of the limitations of online video and can therefore identify sites which have (relatively) high quality videos (via the screencaps on their "reality" tours). SE traffic has a higher proportion of newbies, many of whom may not yet be aware that video standards are much poorer than those of still photography and are therefore more drawn to "traditional" tours with apparently higher quality content.

That would be consistent with the perceived difference in rebill ratios, because again seasoned surfers are aware of the limitations of videos (production and transmission quality, load times, etc), while many newbies may assume these are limitations connected to the sites they have joined and not to the media itself.


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