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lar's has better support clickcash wont hold your hand will take a few days to answer and email but in the end makes you more $$$ go with what is most important to you $$$ or support
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i personally would sacrifice the difference in payout (assuming its not 1000 dollars plus per pay period) for the support.. because it shows that they actually care about their affiliates and have less of a chance of fucking you over... as opposed to a company who doesn't really give a shit about their affiliatesOriginally posted by sandman!lar's has better support clickcash wont hold your hand will take a few days to answer and email but in the end makes you more $$$ go with what is most important to you $$$ or support
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eOriginally posted by sonofsami personally would sacrifice the difference in payout (assuming its not 1000 dollars plus per pay period) for the support.. because it shows that they actually care about their affiliates and have less of a chance of fucking you over... as opposed to a company who doesn't really give a shit about their affiliates
nothing beats $40 per $1 join if your promo's are good
its like comparing $1 trials to $5.95 trials on pps if you cna convert it $1 trials usually do better
I do well with aff but cams.com cant touch ifriends
ifriends support is not bad but they dont bend over backwords for your traffic and kiss your ass like most adult programs
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Clickcash converts better for me. However, Lars support is more responsive.- Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com
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these threads are always good
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I think that we have enhanced our conversions by enough this last year that for some people we are beating Ifriends.. not for all but for some we are better, I will get it to the point where we beat them anytime anywhere.Comment
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Holy shit, Lars! Cams.com is a new brand, even!Originally posted by LegendaryLarsemail: [email protected]Comment
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I would go with a solid percentage program. Also, when you need extra cash fast just sprinkle some PPS on top of your percentage program.ISeekGirls.com since 2005Comment
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its easy for me to sell 1 dollar, or free lifetime joins. its a bitch to convince those same people to pay 25 bucks for a cam show
thats what you have to do to get paid from lars
if lars had a 1 dollar/free join id be on that like rice on white.. strike that, reverse.
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I promote both but I have learned over time to push Lars more since I like how when ppl find a girl on his site they like you can keep making a buttload of money month after month from it... A nice single clickcash sign up is nice for a fast $40 but over the long haul I know I have made more off lars..Comment
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Originally posted by RevSand
Yup a revshare customer can be worth $1000's of dollars over the lifetime of that join. we have guys who spend $500 a day with us.. at 20% comission thats $100 a day your cut... over and over and over... Rev share kicks PPS ass over time any day of the week.Comment
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I have promoted both of them for a while now...Clickcash I still make more money with BUT the longer I'm with Streamray/Legendary Lars the more I make. I'm on the percentage program and it takes a while but I can attest to over time the money adds up and just keeps getting better. I need to send streamray some more traffic ;-)
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Originally posted by LegendaryLars
there you have it.
any other questions. ROFLComment
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I've pulled in about $300k in the past year from AFF, but I've done the same with clickcash. Clickcash support is pretty much non-existant in my opinion, at least with AFF I have a real good chance of getting someone on icq during business hours.Comment
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Originally posted by Brujah
well right on-sean
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clickcash converts for me better too.
i am testing streamray, but it dont convert well for me
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The only comment I'd make about AFF, is that I'd prefer a lower % upfront and get credit for the mailer signups.
The mailers are nicely done and not too spammy, which I think would help convert the free signups to $$$.
It's just a pity I can't get a cut of these signups.yeah, yeahComment
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Oh, and one payment for all programmes would be nice too.yeah, yeahComment
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LegendaryLars, those are some powerful stats.Comment
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Clickcash support is non-existent. I`ve mailed them many times to no avail.exgfmovies.com, exgfclips.com, datesx.com, gayboards.com and more!Comment
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Originally posted by kektex
I have great support. Just dont ask question that are on their faq.
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I've tested side by side with my traffic and ClickCash won... HOWEVER I didn't test long enough to get any 'big fish' on streamray - which I hear is the key to longer term recurring revenue with them.
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Originally posted by thunder99
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Originally posted by RevSand
what you guys fail to factor in is that you will get 4x more free signups then you will paid signups from the same traffic. So you say a quick $40, well it's actually a quick $160 if you comparing it to a pps program.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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Click Cash hands down. they've been doing $40+ on a $1 join for yearsComment
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Originally posted by bdld
Just imagine if you were on just 20% revshare with click cash. You would be retired by now.ISeekGirls.com since 2005Comment
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the problem with that is what happens if the company goes under? Sure cams is a good solid program but you would have to be a fool to think that any company in this industry doesn't run the risk of going out of business for several reasons ( new laws, lawsuits, financial, new competition, processing, etc...) A lot of BIG companies have come and gone. Thats why I prefer to be paid now, not over time. What happens if the company you are dealing with runs out of time? Its the same when dealing with rebilling memberships, you are making it over time, How many people got screwed from ibill and would have made more if they went with the instant money??Originally posted by adultchicaICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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Originally posted by LegendaryLars
alexa rating = money in my pocket?
please explain, how does you having a high alexa rating help me make more money ???ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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I looking forward to $50 free joins on epic in a couple daysComment
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There is that risk in everything. I still recommend revshare for the long term players. Cams.com has been around over 8 years and with the recent merger is just picking up speed. To not choose the revshare option because they could possibly go out of business in the future is rather paranoid, in my opinion.Originally posted by will76email: [email protected]Comment
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Originally posted by Elli
and i am sure people said that about ibill as well, how long where they around before they stopped paying and went under???? lol
I never said that was the sole reason why I would not promote cams, I said that is one of the reasons why i prefer to be paid now instead of waiting year(s) to make the same amount.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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Originally posted by flashfire
is that just on tuesdays and thursdays though
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Right and you fail to factor in WhalesOriginally posted by will76 so say one of those gusy sepnds $500 a night thent that guy is word $100 a join. Rev share kicks ass over PPS in the long haul. Will with the ammount of traffic you have you could send it to me and at first yes you would make less money but after 6 months it would be the same and after a year you would be making more money with me than with Clickcash. I have gained huge ground in the last 9 months. We are now converting double what we were converting before. Start sending me traffic, cuzz I am on fire right now, and it only a matter of time before I take over as the king of cams programs. I am number 2 right now for sure, and closing the gap quick, in terms of $$ made each day.
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It shows more and more traffic is flowing to us and away from Ifriends. what this means is more and mroe people are discovering we pay as much or more than ifirends. We would not be growing at the massive rate we are if we were not competative or better than said competition.Originally posted by will76Comment
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It also shows that the surfers are enjoying cams.com more than ifriends, and are coming back to us more often than not.Originally posted by LegendaryLarsemail: [email protected]Comment
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I love my AFF account rep. He > *.
Fling.com doesn't steal your traffic and sales unlike some other dating companies. I promote them, and so should you!
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Originally posted by LegendaryLars
so that would mean your site is becoming more saturated and my traffic is more likely to already be a member or have seen cams already. How does this help me make more money?
sorry i don't believe the amount of hits your site gets has anything to do with how much money I can make, well if anything the more hits your site gets the less i would stand to make due to saturation.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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Originally posted by Elli
ok believe that if you wish but then why would you still be #2 by your own admission if alexa ratings meant anything and not #1 ????ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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and for every whale there are thousands of free joins that don't spend a penny.Originally posted by LegendaryLarsRight and you fail to factor in Whales so say one of those gusy sepnds $500 a night thent that guy is word $100 a join. Rev share kicks ass over PPS in the long haul. Will with the ammount of traffic you have you could send it to me and at first yes you would make less money but after 6 months it would be the same and after a year you would be making more money with me than with Clickcash. I have gained huge ground in the last 9 months. We are now converting double what we were converting before. Start sending me traffic, cuzz I am on fire right now, and it only a matter of time before I take over as the king of cams programs. I am number 2 right now for sure, and closing the gap quick, in terms of $$ made each day.
Even if i could brake even in 6 months I wouldn't do it but that is just me. I would rather all the money now instead of bits and pieces every 2 weeks over the next 6 months. One reason I stated, if something happens to the company i lose 6 months of revenue opposed to 1 week of revenue with the pps option. Also, I invest my money, so by getting it all now I put it to work making 10% or more return for me, so by the time 6 months rolls around I have made a lot more off of my money.
I am in this for the long term i just don't like tieing up my money long term in other people's hands. Any other industry I would be fine with doing that but in this industry so many things can happen, and have happened (to me before), It is too risky IMO.
and for the girl with the paranoid comment, until you have been burned by companies like ibill, web800 and other affiliate companies, then you will not understand what you are talking about.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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It shows that, over time, we are getting closer to the #1 spot. We are gaining ground as Ifriends loses ground. It's a simple graph.Originally posted by will76
I well remember the Ibill fiasco. I've been doing the interweb thang since 1998. I still think it's a rather paranoid way to do business to not trust a well established company with a good track record. But I can understand that some people may be a little gun shy still.email: [email protected]Comment
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out of curosity since 1998, how much of your income is from working on cam or from actual advertising?Originally posted by Elli
You "remember" ibill, how much money did you lose to them?
The is nothing "gun shy" about why I prefer to be paid now over later but everyone is entitled to their opinions.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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