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Old 03-13-2002, 06:20 AM   #1
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What do you REALLY want from a webmaster program REALLY.

ok
- great conversions obviously
- payouts on all exits
- ability to offer free trials
- multiple site tours
- payouts on any upsells


anything else u think would increase ur commision more?


Things which would make you choose to promote them
- free content (how much?)
- great promotional material
- cheques on time every 2 weeks


any suggestions VERY VERY WELCOME.

thanks.
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Old 03-13-2002, 06:34 AM   #2
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nothing then?
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Old 03-13-2002, 06:41 AM   #3
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Free content is always nice, BUT to make yourself stand out above the crowd, make it HIGH QUALITY. Some places do give out nice stuff, but some places give out low quality stuff that I'd never use. The higher quality, the better

http://www.oliver-klozov.com is an example of a place that gives out GREAT content to it's webmasters. It's the best free content that I've seen a sponsor give to it's webmasters.

OR for those people that want the lower grade "web ready" pics, maybe you could have 2 versions of each pic, a "web ready" pic and a raw pic, so they could choose.

I can't think of any other things that you could offer. The checks every 2 weeks is also a good thing. You already hit up the other things like payouts on all exits.

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Old 03-13-2002, 06:53 AM   #4
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Good content is what I look for. Obviously it must convert etc. but if there is good free content then I will give it a go ;)
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Old 03-13-2002, 07:04 AM   #5
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thanks guyz Aaron is working on the content so should be exceptional.
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Old 03-13-2002, 07:07 AM   #6
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keep suggestions coming.....
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Old 03-13-2002, 07:09 AM   #7
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weekly/bi-weekly checks
Fedex/Wire transffer

A good stats interface. Fresh promotional material banners that are update from time to time. Most programs have the same banners waaaaaaaay to long.
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Old 03-13-2002, 07:20 AM   #8
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Add promotional movies content insted of just pics..
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Free Money!!!

No really just fresh free content, updated every week instead of
when ever the program feels like it. And Lots of it
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Old 03-13-2002, 07:41 AM   #10
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How about just offering good and high quality websites so that the people I refer and signup don't feel ripped off and stay
member for longer than 3 days?

I'm not interested in flashy tours and empty promises it's plain
simple. If your site does not make my traffic happy then I will
not send them to your sites no matter how much you pay me
or how good you convert.

Reason? Quite simple...those people will not come on my site
again so I will lose the traffic I have to work so hard for to get!
I understand that this is not relevant for all sites...some are just
happy with 1 signup fee....however I think you paysites should start shifting your energy more in keeping members happy and
extending your rentention rates than just finding new ways to
some dollars from ignorant surfers!

My site http://www.adultmonkey.com will go live within 2 weeks from now.
check it out some time...I will have reviews online available for
my visitors for all sites that are listed....if it's good I give a good review if it sucks I tell them stay away from that site.

My 2 cents!

In case anyone is curious how a review looks like?

http://www.adultmonkey.com/index.php...iew&SiteID=261
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Old 03-13-2002, 07:44 AM   #11
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Old 03-13-2002, 07:45 AM   #12
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just focus on making conversions,,
if it converts they will come,,,all the bells and whistle don't really matter,,,,,,
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Old 03-13-2002, 07:47 AM   #13
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ur review link doesnt work - we will defiently send our site(s) in for review. I think u will defiently like

so far guyz u have added to the list:

- cheques bi weekly
- good quality content (updated weekly)
- wire transfers

anything else....
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Old 03-13-2002, 07:50 AM   #14
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playa = agreed on the conversions. we have tested the sites i am talking about and there is defiently no problem on that, now i am concentrating on the affiliate program and the bells and whistles obviously do make some difference if not alot.
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Old 03-13-2002, 07:50 AM   #15
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Sorry for that, Now the link works

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Old 03-13-2002, 07:50 AM   #16
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vegasdude - a free cat with every sale? will that do :0
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Old 03-13-2002, 07:51 AM   #17
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DynaSpain - a screenshot of the site would be good - would encourage people to click as well

nice review very honest
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Old 03-13-2002, 07:52 AM   #18
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First of all nice spam, but:


ALWAYS send a sample of the product!

MY DICK WENT SKI HIGH AFTER THE SAMPLE!
IF THE PRODUCT WORKS! THE PROMOTION IS MORE EASY!
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Old 03-13-2002, 07:54 AM   #19
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That's why it's not live yet....we will have screenshots in the reviews....did you just saw the review or the search engine too.
It has some nifty features like all ranking is based on outgoing
traffic, what's cool ranking on incoming traffic, etc, etc...

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Old 03-13-2002, 08:01 AM   #20
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hookers....



actually, how about go crazy and actually offer something unique...how many generic teen, asian and "mega" sites do we need?

I'm also sick of sponsors adding a bondage site and not knowing anything about it....a chick in black leather with a whip, while hot, is NOT bondage...there are very few bondage sites where the sponsor seems to "get it"
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Old 03-13-2002, 08:12 AM   #21
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"how about go crazy and actually offer something unique"

interesting u say that.
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I think that you should actually have a TOUR. I HATE how most sites just have 2 or 3 collage pages, then right to the signup section. Sure, you can sell some memberships, but you could sell more with a real tour.

Look at Amateur Pages, THAT's how you market a page, give the visitors some samples to show them what they're gonna see, don't have them click twice then go to a signup page.
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Old 03-13-2002, 08:38 AM   #23
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Please make sure you have a shady celebrity site that claims to have Britney Spears nude. Oh and link codes that dont rely on cookies to count but rather the reffer code is in the url throughout including the credit card page. Oh yeah and have the abilty to control the scrub and make sure it is very loose. Oh yeah and make sure you have a good site so you dont have to fuck us over later when you realize you are paying out more than an actual signup is worth. Oh and pay 40 dollars at least per trial sign or 30 for a free trail sign. And dont use whoever designed maxcashes new tours.
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Old 03-13-2002, 08:38 AM   #24
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Make it like ARS (free hosting and all) and you will be great!
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Old 03-13-2002, 08:41 AM   #25
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premade galleries and hosted by the sponsor would be nice..like soulcash have....

I would you you for sure.
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Old 03-13-2002, 09:11 AM   #26
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Old 03-13-2002, 09:17 AM   #27
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I'd have to agree - premade gallery templates would be great (TGP2 ones would be awesome). Even a collection of free movies to use would be nice.

Hmmm now I'm thinking to:

Helpful support. Something along the lines of "run by webmasters, FOR webmasters"
Emailed stats every week/email notification of signups - heck you could even code this to page ICQ numbers
Gallery Templates/premade galleries
Exit traffic to the URL of your choice on certain programs
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Good suggestion Railz - now implementing.
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Old 03-13-2002, 09:27 AM   #29
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URL tracking in stats, I like to see where my hits and sign ups are coming from...
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ur certainly giving me alot to do :0
keep them coming......
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How about just offering good and high quality websites so that the people I refer and signup don't feel ripped off and stay
member for longer than 3 days?

I'm not interested in flashy tours and empty promises it's plain
simple. If your site does not make my traffic happy then I will
not send them to your sites no matter how much you pay me
or how good you convert.

Reason? Quite simple...those people will not come on my site
again so I will lose the traffic I have to work so hard for to get!
I understand that this is not relevant for all sites...some are just
happy with 1 signup fee....however I think you paysites should start shifting your energy more in keeping members happy and
extending your rentention rates than just finding new ways to
some dollars from ignorant surfers!

My site http://www.adultmonkey.com will go live within 2 weeks from now.
check it out some time...I will have reviews online available for
my visitors for all sites that are listed....if it's good I give a good review if it sucks I tell them stay away from that site.

My 2 cents!

In case anyone is curious how a review looks like?

http://www.adultmonkey.com/index.php...iew&SiteID=261
DynaMite



Sites like this always fail, you might as well cut your losses... seems everyday another one of these sites popsup... newbie webmasters seem to think if they say good things about a site (review wise)people will signup... as someone who has watched about 7 of these fail in the last 3 months, be careful
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Old 03-13-2002, 10:05 AM   #33
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what about free access to the site ur promoting?

would that help?
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Old 03-13-2002, 10:23 AM   #34
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Not that I'm in the traffic game but I am in the content game.
So here goes.

Plus it's simple really.

PAY THE FEEDER MORE THAN THE OTHERS.

That is done by converting more

DynaSpain has it right, conversions.

So the content on the feeder site is important but not as important as what's in and on the site they go to.

You can feed 1 million an hour, but if the site is crap whats the point.

Convertions is all the feeder site need. If that takes lots of HIGH QUALITY content, be prepared to have deep pockets.
Cos high quality aint cheap.

Does anyone know where I can buy a Saab for the price of a Skoda?
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Old 03-13-2002, 11:23 AM   #36
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what webmasters want

The ULTIMATE webmaster program

- tons of exclusive free content, movies and pictures and daily updates
- passwords to the sites they are promoting
- free hosting and free domain hosting
- third party stats and heavy recurrings, or if a persignup, $50 (plus) per $0.50 trial
- 24/7 email, icq and phone contacts
- 100% credit on all email boxes, enter and exit popups
- no upselling
- contests, bonuses, prizes, or for a persign program, $75 (plus) signup days
- free traffic.. in other words, sponsors that have their own traffic pumps and will give good listings
- choice of cc processor

it ain't going to happen. ;)

sponsors, on the other hand, want just about the opposite. they'd be happy to pay $20 per $24.95 monthly membership, use their owns stats software, take full credit on all enter and exits, etc
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you say no upsells but what about if you got commision on upsells?
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Old 03-13-2002, 11:39 AM   #38
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partnership - recurring ?

or pay per signup?

or both?

eg $20 per signup and $20 recurring?
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Sites like this always fail, you might as well cut your losses... seems everyday another one of these sites popsup... newbie webmasters seem to think if they say good things about a site (review wise)people will signup... as someone who has watched about 7 of these fail in the last 3 months, be careful
Newbie webmaster aye? That this site is not live yet does not imply that I'm a newbie kiddo! I work in this biz for over 8 years
now. I'm quite sure my trackrecord will make you look like a
newbie...Don't judge me when you don't know the facts pipe!

I know there is a lot of BS online...you're right about that...
But not every new to be launched site sucks. A Similar setup
like mine is erotic.ranks.com and they seem to do quite alright pal!

I do have the sources and traffic to make this one work really
well....

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Old 03-13-2002, 11:58 AM   #40
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They still selling these penis elargement kits in the back of porn mags?

I might buy this kit and spam webmasters all day to join my penis program.. theres an idea..
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I work in this biz for over 8 years now.
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I know there is a lot of BS online...you're right about that...
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Originally posted by DynaSpain (10 minutes later)
I meant the OFFLINE porn biz
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Keep your tours fresh.
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LMAO

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Old 03-13-2002, 12:07 PM   #44
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greentea = this is not a spam, i dont send u spam and will not, i do reply to posts on this board regarding penis enlargement because WOW i own a penis enlargement site. Just like a content providor replies to posts on content - blimeys thats logic!

This is a proper post and the ideas are being used and implemented as I speak so its very helpful and it as NOTHING to do with penis-health.

and anyway i know u have already got one of those kits......
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Seriously, keeping the tours fresh would be nice. Sponsors always add new sites and claim they convert better than the old ones. That's because they are new! After a couple of months the old ones have been beaten to death.

Why would a surfer join a site that hasn't updated it's tour in a year? Why should they believe you have fresh content if the front page has been the same every time they visit? If a surfer didn't buy the first time you think he will never see your front end again? Build 31 front pages, slap a script up to show the date and time and rotate the front page. Or build 10 different tours, throw a cookie up to redirect the surfer based on the number of times they've been to the site.

Okay, I don't run a pay site but that's what I want to see.
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Old 03-13-2002, 12:32 PM   #46
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This is whole thread was spam for a certain cock program..
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Old 03-13-2002, 12:41 PM   #47
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Well, I know for a fact we don't shave.

Problem is, hardly anyone knows about our cash program.

So you guys want videos, and high quality pictures? I know we have some videos now for our cash clients, as well as downloadable pictures. I didn't set up either one, so im not sure what the pic quality is though.

I do know we are launching 20 new video pages, with embedded .EV2 videos, which you can post up with your cash code in all of the links to our site.

If anyone is interested in signing up with us, and wants special content, like videos, or pictures, you can always shoot me an e-mail. [email protected], I don't mind helping out GFY webmasters. I just want to see some new people actually use our cash program! lol.
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Old 03-13-2002, 01:53 PM   #50
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