Registering onto a site

[Paul Markham]

Just had some one try to get onto our site without wanting to give me any info of who he is.

Fine if he wants to stay invisible, I have the same choice.

We content providers have a major problem with people stealing sets. Buying them for their own paysites and then giving them out to every tgp or feeder site they can.

He is very welcome to buy from people with less scruples of who they sell to. In the end it's in his interest, if he's genuine, to help us.

And to the person I REFUSED, if I need a lesson in business it's definately not from you. If you are so happy with who you buy from why are you looking around.

[Amputate Your Head]

you are a wild man.

[Paul Markham]

No AYH
Just cautious who I sell to.
He wanted to be invisible, did not want to tell me his URL, email address, details. No problems, I dont want to tell him how to buy our content. Guess the bottom line is NOT DESPERATE.

[payrollpete]

It is me, mr. invisible...

I didn't want to give my info because i knew he was going to spam me with promo mail, which he admitted that he would when i asked him.

LOL ! ! !

Now i know why it is better to deal with Shaw, Matrix, Ounique, AaronM, Xamo, etc. hehe

Usualy when you contact the person running the show directly, you can get away with not registering and getting spammed hehe

[payrollpete]

You could have looked in my icq info for info...

Hehe

[funkmaster]

well done charly, what did you get for breakfast this morning? ... I had a nice blueberry muffin ... hmmmmmmm ....

[Paul Markham]

I checked you on GFY while we were talking.
What it does not say is webmaster of paysite.

If you were so happy with those others why look at ours. And start by telling us we have great pics. Then keep coming back to me when I said no info no entry.

Telling clients about what is new is not SPAM unless you do not want to know. If you do not like what we do after you have seen it, all you do is cancel.

[Brujah]

i like charly's stuff.. but fuck it.. i don't feel like registering for anymore sites.. i'll just forget my password a month later and have to register again and go through that hassle all over.. and oops, there's yet another email getting spammed with content updates for a site I can't enter..

i hear there's this cool contentspotlight.com setup though.. anyone tried that out ?

[Amputate Your Head]

do what I do... the very first *update* I get from a site like that.... throw a bad ass filter on it and shoot that fucker straight to eternal damnation without ever seeing it.

[payrollpete]

Well charly...
I am happy with other peoples content, however i look around all the time for new and unique stuff. What? I can't window shop?
It seems like you do have nice pics, but bad business ethics, i probably could give you a few tips if you need it.

Brujah is right, registering for sites is a waste of time. I don't go and register at a clothing store to look at the clothes

I think anyone with a brain could put their signature on the sample pictures, and shrink them down like Ounique does, thus for avoiding people stealing the pics as they would be worthless.

But whatever...It's cool, sorry it didn't work out.

[payrollpete]

You should have just been honest.

"We like to shakedown people for their e-mail & other info for our marketing purposes."

hehehehe

[TheJimmy]

Hell yeh registering sucks,

I think I must had like 20 diff registrations on Brujahs site back a while ago...

1) I'd forget passwords
2) I'd get spam so I don't like it
3) I understand it cuz I'll do it to and spam your asses....

So, go wack off, drink some coffee and figure out if what you're looking for is worth hitting the delte button a few times a day.

Hehe ;)

[TheJimmy]

Hell yeh registering sucks,

I think I must had like 20 diff registrations on Brujahs site back a while ago...

1) I'd forget passwords
2) I'd get spam so I don't like it
3) I understand it cuz I'll do it too and 'creatvily market' those 'heads'...

So, go wack off, drink some coffee and figure out if what you're looking for is worth hitting the delete button a few times a day.

Hehe ;)

[payrollpete]

LOL Jimmy
Are we double post hyper today?
hehe

[Brujah]

Originally posted by TheJimmy
Hell yeh registering sucks,

I think I must had like 20 diff registrations on Brujahs site back a while ago...

1) I'd forget passwords
2) I'd get spam so I don't like it
3) I understand it cuz I'll do it to and spam your asses....

So, go wack off, drink some coffee and figure out if what you're looking for is worth hitting the delte button a few times a day.

Hehe ;)

You lying fucker.. come over here and say that.
You didn't get any spam from me.

[cameraman]

I'll put in my 2 cents.

Firstly content providers should keep all their wares behind
a password area. Content sales are a business-to-business
transaction and the general public should not be seeing what
the wholesalers are selling and for how much. In the real
world, you can not get into a wholesale buyers market unless
you are in the industry. This benefits the buyer as much as
the seller.

At the minimum you shouild give your domain and email for
browsing. When you are ready to purchase, then you should be
willing to give the rest of your details like name and address.

As far as email, there should be an opt-in checkbox that says
if you want email announcements or not. The content provider
should honor the opt-ion box.

The problem is there are a million content providers and having to
register at each one sucks. Maybe that thing at content spotlight
will solve this problem, buit right now they don't have enough providers
signed up.

[titmowse]

quote:
"registering for sites is a waste of time"

some sites have their databases set up so when they send out opt-in email, they include the member's password and user name in the message. i don't mind getting emails from content providers or resource sites i sign up with, sometimes they are helpful. i do agree that the password thing is hard to keep up with.

[UnseenWorld]

Originally posted by charly
No AYH
Just cautious who I sell to.
He wanted to be invisible, did not want to tell me his URL, email address, details. No problems, I dont want to tell him how to buy our content. Guess the bottom line is NOT DESPERATE.

I screen webmasters, too. Partly because I have adult material and I want to make sure the people I admit are not 13 years old, and partly just to make sure they are not surfers. I am a business-to-business operation and there is no reason why a surfer should get in to look around even at sets with "sample" stamped on them.

I'm amazed at how many "webmasters" can't provide me with a webmaster@ e-mail address, and actually try to convince me they are serious webmasters even though they have Hotmail, Yahoo, or even AOL e-mail addresses. Now, who can take seriously a webmaster whose e-mail address ends with aol.com?

So, then I tell them I'll send them a password via the e-mail in their WHOIS, whereupon they reply that the info in their WHOIS is bogus "because I don't want to get spammed." No matter that they are probably committing fraud across state lines, thus making them criminals under Federal law. Shoot, if their aol.com e-mail address had been their in their domain contact info, I'd use it, but if they can't even supply real information when they sign up for a domain (a) do they really even own the domain? and (b) to what extent can I trust any information they give me?

[payrollpete]

well anybody that worries so much over some sample pictures has nothing better to do

obviously sales are slow...and the persons business is just a chum hehe...

if i was a content supplier, i would be happy with people stealing my images, call up scottpb and collect legal $$$ hehe...

[UnseenWorld]

Originally posted by cameraman
I'll put in my 2 cents.

Firstly content providers should keep all their wares behind
a password area. Content sales are a business-to-business
transaction and the general public should not be seeing what
the wholesalers are selling and for how much. In the real
world, you can not get into a wholesale buyers market unless
you are in the industry. This benefits the buyer as much as
the seller.

At the minimum you shouild give your domain and email for
browsing. When you are ready to purchase, then you should be
willing to give the rest of your details like name and address.

As far as email, there should be an opt-in checkbox that says
if you want email announcements or not. The content provider
should honor the opt-ion box.

The problem is there are a million content providers and having to
register at each one sucks. Maybe that thing at content spotlight
will solve this problem, buit right now they don't have enough providers
signed up.

My list is a totally opt-in list. I don't know why more don't opt in: they could save 20% off new content offerings if they did. I find it hard to believe people don't give good information even when purchasing content. To whom is it licensed, then? Just paying for it doesn't give one a license. Agreeing to the terms of the license AND paying for it gives you the license to use is.

[Paul Markham]

Tom
Yes you have found the same as me, these guys tell us run multi million $$$ sites all from @yahoo free mail addresses. Send a registration to the email address on their WHOIS and it's also freemail and bounces back undelivered.
He gave it away by saying he saw me on GFY, this board has a lot of kids and surfers on it, just look at some of the posts.
Might put the password in with the info email, good idea (that's what these boards are for)
Cameraman, yes you are right and I did not think about it we are wholesalers. Maybe payrollpetes angle shows he's a consumer (surfer) Signed up on the Content spotlight thing, (Danny is king) but nothing much yet. These posts and the articles I write do better.

Payrollpete.
Shut me up and make me look like an idot and you the winner, give us the URL of your mega paysite.
Maybe one of your many suppliers will tell me what an fool I've been.

[payrollpete]

Charly,
You can't perform a shakedown here, sorry.

I have nothing against you, i think your content is great, i just think you were being a fool about how you delt with my questions.

Since you did look in my profile, you would notice i am not a child, and you would notice i do not "hide", or whatever you were implying.

Anyways, it's cool, whatever, we don't like each other, oh well

Sorry it did not work out.

[payrollpete]

Thejimmy

Don't forget to e-mail me those pictures of you and i in anal adventures 3...

[email protected] or you can try [email protected]

ROFL ! ! !

[TheJimmy]

Ok Brujah I'll come over there and say that! LOL

Hell for fity cents I'll say it twice ;)

However, after reading I see why it sounded like I was saying I got 'spam from you' LOL

Lemme clear that up I've NEVER got spam from you...I was just using 'signing up to your site' as a ref also to 'forgetting passwords' & shit

not in ref to spam lol...but feel free man, I wouldn't mind it I got l33t delete button skillz





Petey Weety! I'll send you my gay hairy bukkake content how's that!?

;P

[payrollpete]

Now i am not so worried...

TheJimmy has informed me of how to delete e-mails.

This internet thing is so much fun! WOW!

You learn a new thing every day...

[TheJimmy]

Jaa man,

I got mad skillz like that cuz I'm a total fucking 'button pusher'

beyond that I'm a complete moron....

[payrollpete]

You are l33t

I make you my internet god...*bows*

ahahahaha...

i need to come down to California...
lace up the little one with the fubu gear ;)

can he walk yet?

[TheJimmy]

Haha,

No man not yet, we'll be up your way around the end of April though...


PS: Here's a link just for you man

http://www.attrition.org/gallery/spo...-DIGI.gif.html

[UnseenWorld]

For all you guys who forget passwords, usually the password is referred to in an e-mail, in which case all you need to do is save the e-mail in a "Passwords" folder, where you can find it again quickly when you need it. A solution so simple, you'd think any idiot could think of it. Oh, yeah, I forgot: You're too busy to do that.

I feel content should be behind a password in part to protect the models. I know of a case where a model, who had been exercising her right to a modicum of privacy by not telling her family how she'd been earning extra income. Some high school "friends" surfed into this content provider's site and sent her parents a direct link to the page where her nasty pics were on display. Now, I can't much control what is done with my pics after I sell them, and I feel many models (in denial) underestimate the chance their families will catch on. However, I don't be the one to let the cat out of the bag.

[UnseenWorld]

Originally posted by payrollpete
Charly,
You can't perform a shakedown here, sorry.

I have nothing against you, i think your content is great, i just think you were being a fool about how you delt with my questions.

Since you did look in my profile, you would notice i am not a child, and you would notice i do not "hide", or whatever you were implying.

Anyways, it's cool, whatever, we don't like each other, oh well

Sorry it did not work out.

Well, I checked your profile and, as I suspected, I didn't see anything there that removed all doubt about you being an adult OR a webmaster. Everything there is simply alleged and not proven. I have on occasion gone back and forth up to five times with people until I have become convinced that they couldn't be quite THAT anonymous and devoid of verifiable information if they were for real adults in the industry.

Part of any business relationship is being forthcoming and understanding the needs and precautions the other party must take to protect himself and his wares.

[TheJimmy]

For content, I agree registering is a must for that privacy factor....

just a fact of life really....

if ya want what the vendor's offering then it's worth the risk of getting a few emails LOL




<spam>

I'll sell anyone an e-book on l33t delete skillz for fitty dollahs

</spam>


Anyways, this thread was fun.....ciao

[Brujah]

Originally posted by charly
He gave it away by saying he saw me on GFY, this board has a lot of kids and surfers on it, just look at some of the posts.
Might put the password in with the info email, good idea (that's what these boards are for)

Bullshit.. if you guys were concerned about kids and surfers on GFY you wouldn't be posting your content on the board in the form of contests. Or is it "ok" when you're spamming ?



Jimmy, its all good.. misunderstood your post then
ICQ me and I'll give you a free day to the lists.

[payrollpete]

Ah yes...Brujah is right on the money

*Bows*

Someone makes sense!

[payrollpete]

I saw the person posting on gfy...I noticed their post, looked at a url of their content, and then made an inquiry directly.

Gee that sure is a give-off hey

[Paul Markham]

Payrollpete

No URL? WHY

OK He says I just lost the biggest cliient of the year, said on ICQ he,s spaent over $100,000 on content.

So somebody must know him, big guy like this. How many sites are there that spend like that.

So who knows this big spender? Tom and cameraman dont?

Prp
Time to put up or SHUT THE FUCK UP

I know why you aree frightened of being spammed by us, Your Mum or Dad will go when they find out.

[payrollpete]

Charly don't make me put you in your place...

I never said i was going to be your biggest client? I may have wanted to pick up a few sets?

I know more then a handfull of people off the top of my head who spend great deals of money into the 6 figures on content.

Your just pissed you don't take in more then 6

Don't take this to places it dosen't need to be... I already apologised.

Stupid Chez Republic Cock Smack...

[Paul Markham]

Still no URL?

[kmanrox]

hey charly, you are a moron... pete is legit, the former owner of plainlist.com (i own it now) is in talks with him to run his webmaster affiliate program and paysites

and on top of it pete is an already successful internet guy in on adult stuff...

oops -- insert foot in mouth.....

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NNNOWWWW!

[payrollpete]

kman, thanks

don't worry, i never filled him in on who i am and where i stand...

i just wanted to look at some samples of the picture sets

[payrollpete]

WITH OUT BEING SPAMMED TO HELL!!!

hehe

[TheJimmy]

Pete is very straight up about the money he's spent on content & shit....


Brujah, hell yeh! I'll hit ya up for that... fooo shoooo

Thanks mang...




Anyways, I'm gone for the night, done far too much work today....if that's even possible haha...I think I put in a few hours ;)

ciao

[Paul Markham]

Kman
So I did it again, but still cannot change the policy. We get hit probably a bit more than most content providers because of the name. A lot come from search engines putting in Paul Markham. But the name has bought clients. So it stays.
Where to draw the line, if you were on the recieving end of the ICQ chat we got maybe you would have let him in maybe not.
Spam, dont do it. Those that register get weekly updates of what's new on the site and a couple of emails about "How can we help you more" questionaires.
If anyone does not want to know what is new then fine tell us and they come off the list.
Alternatively they have to go to the site every couple of days in the hope of seeing something new and appropriate.
Go to the site knowing there is something you want, press delete key or go to site twice week in the hope there is something there. Which one suits you the best?
But this is an interesting subject.

HOW MANY CONTENT PROVIDERS HAVE AN "OPEN DOOR" POLICY?

Let us all know.

[payrollpete]

Charly,

Let's just call it a truce man, what do you say

No need to be on bad terms over some dumb shit...

Whaddya Say hehe... And can i see some damn samples? LOL

[Paul Markham]

Here's a sample. Also got her doing B/G which I think you wanted.



Of course it's silly, fueding.
Now that I know you're a "player" and not a surfer.
Believe me I get so many people try to get into the site with info that is purely fictional.


Register.
If you do not want to emailed with updates, email me and I will delete you.