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Daymare 02-28-2002 10:07 PM

Well, will somebody from CCBill say something here? Those meta tags you have known about for a long time. I wish I had the link to the fantasyman thread where he posted this a few weeks ago. So they can't plead ignorance.

quiet 02-28-2002 10:11 PM

forest, you're one tired mother fucker.

fantasyman 03-01-2002 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Daymare
Well, will somebody from CCBill say something here? Those meta tags you have known about for a long time. I wish I had the link to the fantasyman thread where he posted this a few weeks ago. So they can't plead ignorance.
Daymare - no problem try

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...pagenu mber=2

My post about this was 2/11/02 it's been 17 days - no change to the site and there probably won't be.

I had told KK about this on other boards over two months ago also.

fantasyman 03-01-2002 01:02 AM

Now watch, I'll be a psychic -

Brad Shaw will soon be here blasting me and then KK will appear and do the same, but they'll never address the actuak issue. let's see if I'm right :)

This is hurting our industry more than you know......

FATPad 03-01-2002 01:36 AM

You'd think that after that big commotion a couple of weeks ago, CCBill would have done something about that site with the underage meta tags.

Very interesting. :-\

Dualcpu 03-01-2002 04:40 AM

Look's like CCBILL is under fire.

Theo 03-01-2002 04:42 AM

the board lately is getting better all the time :thumbsup

Serge_Oprano 03-01-2002 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fantasyman


Daymare - no problem try

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...pagenu mber=2

My post about this was 2/11/02 it's been 17 days - no change to the site and there probably won't be.

I had told KK about this on other boards over two months ago also.

and I heard that you even called CCbill about it...

Good job, Ron,
if only those who have ears have listened!

Serge_Oprano 03-01-2002 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fantasyman
Now watch, I'll be a psychic -

Brad Shaw will soon be here blasting me and then KK will appear and do the same, but they'll never address the actuak issue. let's see if I'm right :)

This is hurting our industry more than you know......

WE KNOW,
because industry foes get undisputable upper hand with this one and than extrapolate this shit on the entire Industry

Forest 03-01-2002 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Daymare
Well, will somebody from CCBill say something here? Those meta tags you have known about for a long time. I wish I had the link to the fantasyman thread where he posted this a few weeks ago. So they can't plead ignorance.
The only thing KK has to say about it is to BASH me for starting the thread

Sorry Sweetie

:(

Forest 03-01-2002 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fantasyman

This is hurting our industry more than you know......

Fantasy Man

U R 100% correct

and the WORST thing is that They CAN do something about it BUT the WONT

Serge_Oprano 03-01-2002 08:30 AM

Forest,
leave KK alone,
it ain't CCbill's fault that child porn was found on the computer of the suspect in California girl murder.

Forest 03-01-2002 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano
Forest,
leave KK alone,
it ain't CCbill's fault that child porn was found on the computer of the suspect in California girl murder.

Its Not???

Then who's fault is it

NOT MINE
BUT I bet that the officals LOOK at our indusatry as a WHOLE tp be resopnsible for that

Serge_Oprano 03-01-2002 08:37 AM

BUT I bet that the officals LOOK at our indusatry as a WHOLE tp be resopnsible for that
********************************

don't tell me you came to this conclusion on your own and haven't read Webfather on Oprano....

Forest 03-01-2002 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano


don't tell me you came to this conclusion on your own and haven't read Webfather on Op....

Serge I dont read your board enough anymore

But Webfather is a Veryy smart guy though

Serge_Oprano 03-01-2002 08:53 AM

it's OK, Forest,
I love pisture you posted there yesterday anyway
:)

Forest 03-01-2002 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano
it's OK, Forest,
I love pisture you posted there yesterday anyway
:)

Serge

That was a present for UUUU

I still love you u big LUG

:winkwink:

Brujah 03-01-2002 09:28 AM

Leave it to you guys, to take a serious thread about a serious issue and make it all about *You*.

eroswebmaster 03-01-2002 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by payrollpete
there needs to be a law to allow the cops to crack down faster with out going through courts on child porn / lolita shit

< soapbox mode on >
I'm sorry I hate cp as much as anyone else but this is the stupidest thing I have ever seen written.

Do you not realize once they erode your civil liberties in one area they erode them in all.

If cops were allowed to circumvent search warrants in cases of cp they'd just start using that as an excuse to go in and harass honest adult webmasters or whoever it is they had a bone to pick with.

Please pick up a newspaper, watch some documentaries read books on history that were not provided by your school about such things as the anti-war movement, the civil rights movement, the McCarthy hearings and you will see why we have certain civil liberties like the miranda warning in place due to the abuse of government in the past which continues in the present (they are considering revoking the miranda warning) ....and maybe you might rethink this statement.

Rushing in and arresting someone on pure speculation and no investigation or evidence will only result in cases being turned over by higher courts which will release the true criminals while more than likely locking up honest people in the process.

Just imagine pissing off some asshole adult webmasters who gets a hardon fucking with people...he picks up the phone and calls Officer Winchell and makes a false accusation against you...the headlines in the newspaper across the front page.
"Local adult webmaster arrested for running child porn websites!"

And then 6 weeks later the retraction is printed somewhere on page 15 in small print. "Charges were dropped due to lack of evidence."

But guess what you were arrested...and you now have a record...convicted for a crime...no...but arrested...yes...and just as bad in the eyes of your local community...enjoy the rest of your fucked up life.

< /soapbox mode off >

Serge_Oprano 03-01-2002 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by eroswebmaster

< soapbox mode on >
I'm sorry I hate cp as much as anyone else but this is the stupidest thing I have ever seen written.

Do you not realize once they erode your civil liberties in one area they erode them in all.

If cops were allowed to circumvent search warrants in cases of cp they'd just start using that as an excuse to go in and harass honest adult webmasters or whoever it is they had a bone to pick with.

Please pick up a newspaper, watch some documentaries read books on history that were not provided by your school about such things as the anti-war movement, the civil rights movement, the McCarthy hearings and you will see why we have certain civil liberties like the miranda warning in place due to the abuse of government in the past which continues in the present (they are considering revoking the miranda warning) ....and maybe you might rethink this statement.

Rushing in and arresting someone on pure speculation and no investigation or evidence will only result in cases being turned over by higher courts which will release the true criminals while more than likely locking up honest people in the process.

Just imagine pissing off some asshole adult webmasters who gets a hardon fucking with people...he picks up the phone and calls Officer Winchell and makes a false accusation against you...the headlines in the newspaper across the front page.
"Local adult webmaster arrested for running child porn websites!"

And then 6 weeks later the retraction is printed somewhere on page 15 in small print. "Charges were dropped due to lack of evidence."

But guess what you were arrested...and you now have a record...convicted for a crime...no...but arrested...yes...and just as bad in the eyes of your local community...enjoy the rest of your fucked up life.

< /soapbox mode off >

eroswebmaster,
very keen observations, indeed

Brujah 03-01-2002 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Forest


Then why wouldnt KK say that and put this all to rest???

She inferred it.

She said 2 different things that might lead you to that conclusion.

1. Just because someone slaps up a CCBILL Join page doesn't mean the join page works. Credit Card thiefs and Password stealers do this all the time.

2. Try to join it. It won't work.

Did you contact CoreHosting about it yet ?
FreedomHosting.com ( ICQ# 38586806 ) ?

Serge_Oprano 03-01-2002 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah
Leave it to you guys, to take a serious thread about a serious issue and make it all about *You*.
Brujah
OK, make a fool of me
***********************

I don't think you are even worthy of THAT,
too small
;-(((

Forest 03-01-2002 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano


eroswebmaster,
very keen observations, indeed

HOLY CHIT bat-MANUEL

Serge and I agree on something

:thumbsup

SR 03-01-2002 09:50 AM

Damn forest you really make me PUKE.
You work for one of the biggest spammers on the net
There is one topic going about the bitches from interclimax and you quickly start this topic to to grab the attention away from the topic about your spam.

If a site has real CP i'm sure that they will delete their account and report their site.
Do you really think they would risk their business for a few extra bucks made with a sick site containing CP?
And yes maybe it is better to just not allow any sites that try to make it look like CP.

But you are just tasteless.
Just mail them and don't try to start this kinda thread when there is a thread going about your spamming.

And the keywords are not cool either but one of the biggest tgp's has keywords like incest, rape, pre-teen in it... is sick and for sure not a way I would try to get my surfers but it is not illegal.

Forest 03-01-2002 09:53 AM

LOL

1 has NOTHING to do with the OTHER

This topic STARTED on Netpond 2 days ago

BEFORE the thread about the spam

SR

Get your facts straight please before Openning your mouth and Inserting FOOT

:1orglaugh

BradShaw 03-01-2002 09:59 AM

Good to see FM is here to save our industry! Who is next to show up? Seth? Crecent?

Serge_Oprano 03-01-2002 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
Good to see FM is here to save our industry! Who is next to show up? Seth? Crecent?
Brad, don't get jelous and carried away,
Ron made MORE for the industry and it's development than you EVER will.

fantasyman 03-01-2002 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano


and I heard that you even called CCbill about it...

Good job, Ron,
if only those who have ears have listened!

Serge - the day after these posts and FM Radio discussion I personally called Ron Cadwell - he didn't return my call - seems consistent with their attitude :)

fantasyman 03-01-2002 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
Good to see FM is here to save our industry! Who is next to show up? Seth? Crecent?
Well, Brad showed up - now where's KK :)

Serge_Oprano 03-01-2002 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fantasyman


Serge - the day after these posts and FM Radio discussion I personally called Ron Cadwell - he didn't return my call - seems consistent with their attitude :)

...and the problem is,
thru out the business history,
"Everything for a buck" attitude ALWAYS results the same-
"the house of cards" falls and leaves big crater in the process.

I hope those who get processed by questionable ethics companies will see their income disapear OVER NITE
BEFORE it happens, but...I doubt it,
cuz most people use their mouth where just ears would suffice!

Forest 03-01-2002 10:13 AM

FM

your a fuckin Psychic

:thumbsup

Forest 03-01-2002 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
Good to see FM is here to save our industry! Who is next to show up? Seth? Crecent?
Brad

Someone NEEDs to stepup and Do something about this shit


It Obviuosly aint you cuz U dont have the BALLS
and It aint KK cuz she cares about nothing over than the Bottom Line

:Graucho

Serge_Oprano 03-01-2002 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Forest


Brad

Someone NEEDs to stepup and Do something about this shit


It Obviuosly aint you cuz U dont have the BALLS
and It aint KK cuz she cares about nothing over than the Bottom Line

:Graucho

Forest, how do I take you off ignore list?

Forest 03-01-2002 10:24 AM

Ask lens

U miss me that much

:)

Serge_Oprano 03-01-2002 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Forest
Ask lens

U miss me that much

:)

naaahhhh, you make sense so rare nowadays,
I don't wanna miss it
;-)))

BradShaw 03-01-2002 10:33 AM

Can you blame him for not taking your call? After all, you lack communication skills and love to call people and scream at them like they are one of your employees.

I stopped taking your calls after your last tirade in which you screamed and cursed for several minutes.

Good to see your house is in excellant order and you are now out policing the industry.

Sleepy 03-01-2002 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fantasyman


Serge - the day after these posts and FM Radio discussion I personally called Ron Cadwell - he didn't return my call - seems consistent with their attitude :)

Why would he call you back ? Your a nothing to him. Just because your FM doesnt mean you can skip protocal and ring him direct. If I had problem with one of your resellers would you expect me to call your direct office number ?

As far the site in question its pretty fucking sad, I agree. But there are no laws against pre-teen meta-tags or atleast there hasnt been any precedence setting cases. Until there is a law you might as well get in line with the religous zealots who call ccbill daily telling them they should stop processing for adult sites.

Dont confuse right and wrong with legal and illegal.

BradShaw 03-01-2002 10:38 AM

Forest, I have learned it is a waste of ones time to dictate to others on how to run their business. Especially in the asinine way you go about it. I spend my time running my business, rather than trying to tell others how to run theirs.

Maybe you and FM can hook up and trade spam lists? Just remember this time to remove all webmaster@ addresses.

BradShaw 03-01-2002 10:40 AM

Anyone want to buy an old cable descrambler?

Theo 03-01-2002 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SR
Damn forest you really make me PUKE.
You work for one of the biggest spammers on the net
There is one topic going about the bitches from interclimax and you quickly start this topic to to grab the attention away from the topic about your spam.

If a site has real CP i'm sure that they will delete their account and report their site.
Do you really think they would risk their business for a few extra bucks made with a sick site containing CP?
And yes maybe it is better to just not allow any sites that try to make it look like CP.

But you are just tasteless.
Just mail them and don't try to start this kinda thread when there is a thread going about your spamming.

And the keywords are not cool either but one of the biggest tgp's has keywords like incest, rape, pre-teen in it... is sick and for sure not a way I would try to get my surfers but it is not illegal.

SR, please post the name of the tgp that has pre-teen keyword. Many people would like to know included me. Thanks

Forest 03-01-2002 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano


naaahhhh, you make sense so rare nowadays,
I don't wanna miss it
;-)))

Well serge that is a GLOWING endorsement comming from you
Thanx Mano

:thumbsup

SR 03-01-2002 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel


SR, please post the name of the tgp that has pre-teen keyword. Many people would like to know included me. Thanks

It's in the top10 of sextracker
I'll icq you the name

Kimmykim 03-01-2002 11:15 AM

Sorry to disappoint you Ron, but I don't sit and watch boards all day and night, especially not when I've spent the night in the emergency room with my son.

Forest, as far as I'm concerned you've still got the reading comprehension of a 6 year old.

Forest 03-01-2002 11:22 AM

KK
your OPINION of me means sooo much to me

:Graucho

How many other lolita sites are on your processing list

Theo 03-01-2002 11:22 AM

easypic

fantasyman 03-01-2002 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sleepy


Why would he call you back ? Your a nothing to him. Just because your FM doesnt mean you can skip protocal and ring him direct. If I had problem with one of your resellers would you expect me to call your direct office number ?

As far the site in question its pretty fucking sad, I agree. But there are no laws against pre-teen meta-tags or atleast there hasnt been any precedence setting cases. Until there is a law you might as well get in line with the religous zealots who call ccbill daily telling them they should stop processing for adult sites.

Dont confuse right and wrong with legal and illegal.

Sleepy I've talked to Ron Cadwell many times over the past years and he always returns my call. We have some processors in common and we talk about many industry issues.

And yes, if you have a problem with one of my resellers you can call me direct and I will act on the information immediately.

As far as saying their are no laws, you're obviously not up on current laws. Underage and CP are major hot buttons and someone in Texas just got found guilty of CP and got over 1,000 years in jail.

[Labret] 03-01-2002 11:28 AM

Easypics has more than preteen keeywords, it straight banner advertises MET. And MET IS cp.

http://www.mosteroticteens.com

BradShaw 03-01-2002 11:35 AM

FM you wearing your cape and red spandex today?

gregtx 03-01-2002 11:40 AM

Forest... I must be slower than most... but I took a look at
http://LOLITA-AGE.COM

but I recognized almost every one of those models on the tour....I even have IDs and model releases to some of them... the girl on the splash is "Mirage/Briana Banks"... shit ... someone better tell MENI that he is a CP!!!

as for the name... yes I can see it as being "misleading" and I am sure no one else has ever used marketing tactics like this to drive traffic to ones sites

lastly if FM created the adult internet market and had a part in everyone's success or failure... does that make him liable too???

:winkwink:
peace
greg

BradShaw 03-01-2002 11:48 AM

I am too busy sulking since FM cancelled our feeds. I think it saved me $6k last month!

Wonder if he takes the other feeds he buys and puts them in his 4free programs as well? This sure makes surfers want to spend $40 a month!


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