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|  09-30-2005, 07:57 PM | #1 | 
| So Fucking Banned Industry Role:  Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- 
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				Envisionextadult does some really GOOD DESIGN work yo............
			 http://www.envisionextadult.com/des_portfolio.php Wow i have checked there stuff out before but was looking again now and all I gotta is WOW. http://www.envisionextadult.com/des_portfolio.php Good shit  | 
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|  09-30-2005, 07:58 PM | #2 | 
| If u touch it, I will cum Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: long island 
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				 | new yorkers if i rememeber right    | 
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|  09-30-2005, 07:59 PM | #3 | |
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|  09-30-2005, 08:02 PM | #4 | |
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|  09-30-2005, 08:21 PM | #5 | |
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|  09-30-2005, 08:24 PM | #6 | |
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|  09-30-2005, 08:25 PM | #7 | |
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 End product is what I am looking for. If i am happy and the cost is in budget who cares? | |
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|  09-30-2005, 08:26 PM | #8 | 
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				 | envisionext does good work. who gives a fuck where the hell the designer is? and yes, they have done sites for me. stan send my check to. 123 someplace ave sometown, usa zip 54321 thank you. | 
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|  09-30-2005, 08:27 PM | #9 | 
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				 | I like the way they do their graphics.  Very unique 
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|  09-30-2005, 08:34 PM | #10 | |
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|  09-30-2005, 08:37 PM | #11 | 
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				 |  You are years late ... they always rocked ;) | 
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|  09-30-2005, 08:39 PM | #12 | |
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 hehhe i am using em for my next design I am gonna contact em next week | |
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|  09-30-2005, 08:42 PM | #13 | |
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|  09-30-2005, 08:47 PM | #14 | |
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 yeah well fan and fanfare can't be presented in an online portfolio. quality does. envisonext does great work. can't you tell by looking at the site? even though i am not bosom buddies with the owners of envisionext, i do have experience with them, and i will honestly say that they have an above par business and creative level for this industry. to be honest with you, the owners of envisionext don't even really like me because of a prior business associate of mine, so there really isn't a reason for me to promote them except they are good, so i guess you have my honest opinion now. | |
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|  09-30-2005, 08:47 PM | #15 | 
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|  09-30-2005, 08:48 PM | #16 | |
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|  09-30-2005, 08:49 PM | #17 | 
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|  09-30-2005, 08:50 PM | #18 | |
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|  09-30-2005, 08:52 PM | #19 | 
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				 |  nice car skin there | 
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|  09-30-2005, 08:54 PM | #20 | |
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|  09-30-2005, 08:54 PM | #21 | 
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|  09-30-2005, 08:55 PM | #22 | 
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				 | ya damn good stuff | 
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|  09-30-2005, 08:58 PM | #23 | 
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				 | Some nice work. | 
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|  09-30-2005, 09:00 PM | #24 | |
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|  09-30-2005, 10:45 PM | #25 | |
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 People forget too easily, wonder how many people go screwed by them  
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|  09-30-2005, 10:47 PM | #26 | |
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|  09-30-2005, 10:55 PM | #27 | 
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				 | Yes, but $4,000 for a site is too fucken expensive. 
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|  09-30-2005, 10:57 PM | #28 | |
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|  09-30-2005, 10:58 PM | #29 | 
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				 | they probably are the best at doing affilate program designs.. | 
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|  10-01-2005, 02:41 AM | #30 | 
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				 | they are the best in affiliate programs design ...  about russians ... it doesn't matter ... quality says everything ...   Juicy ... all I can say ... you will be impressed ... I know what I am talking about ;) you will be in a good hands ;) just tell Stan that you want his BEST designer  hehe ... ;) | 
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|  10-01-2005, 02:56 AM | #31 | |
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|  10-01-2005, 04:30 AM | #32 | |
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 After your dipshit post about the soldiers getting killed and thinking it was funny I went and looked at your post history and you haven't made 1 positive post that I can see. You bring absolutely nothing to the table and have nothing to offer. You're one of those type people that can not function in a social environment and the only way for you to even get noticed is to stand in the shadows and sprew worthless crap. So step out of the shadows and put up some examples of your "better designed and at a better price" websites or shut the fuck up. If you can't prove your point - don't bother trying to make one. | |
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|  10-01-2005, 04:37 AM | #33 | 
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				 | rofl, what bullshit prices. | 
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|  10-01-2005, 05:43 AM | #34 | |
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    good shit | |
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|  10-01-2005, 05:54 AM | #35 | 
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				 | They do good jobs but the pricing is quite high. | 
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|  10-01-2005, 05:55 AM | #36 | 
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				 | I like their work, but you can tell from a million miles away who did the design and this is problem when you try to brand (a new) program. | 
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|  10-01-2005, 05:56 AM | #37 | 
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				 | I think they always did a good job ... their designs are really good! Yes they use russians or whatever but who cares!     mY question is do their paysites convert? | 
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|  10-01-2005, 06:47 AM | #38 | 
| Is on the 1 Industry Role:  Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Philly Burbs 
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				 | Stans' work is top notch .... and yes, it converts like crazy. | 
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|  10-01-2005, 07:13 AM | #39 | |
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 oh that sux....  | |
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|  10-01-2005, 07:22 AM | #40 | |
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 I bet most of their stuff isn't done in PS ... shows how much you know | |
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|  10-01-2005, 07:23 AM | #41 | |
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       The guy just got verbally raped | |
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|  10-02-2005, 04:03 AM | #42 | |
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|  10-02-2005, 04:07 AM | #43 | |
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 Ok, how about this Mike. I will be you $5k, i will sho you a design in my portfolio, you find me a designer on elance, and if he delivers you get paid. We can have GFY decide. If he doesn't, YOU pay. Pay up or shut up. If you don't know what you are talking about, don't speak. We have a large staff of INHOUSE designers, who do not perform work for anyone else. Ocasionally, when we are overbooked, just like any design company we will outsource our work to contractors, who we have tested before and who has performed on the level we find acceptable to say 'Envisionext Style'. 
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|  10-02-2005, 04:15 AM | #44 | 
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				 | Hey ... the truth is that this guy has greatness with networking and vector illustration,basic flash, die hard design html code, and a flare for the female figure as the greatest eye magnet to every guy out there. Design is pretty bunched.... if that was corected...unstoppable...would rally...can I get a hell ya from the rest of the designers out there?  | 
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|  10-02-2005, 04:18 AM | #45 | |
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 In case you are unaware, our designer offices are located in Moscow. It has continuously been raked higher on the most expensive cities list comparing to our headquarters in new york. check out CNN http://money.cnn.com/2005/06/21/pf/costliest_cities/ If you think it's all gravy, you are mistaken. We have secured some of the best talent in the workd IMO, and it does not come cheap as everyone thinks. Our art dirrector has been featured on Adobe.com and many other prominent design resources. You GET what you Pay for! Try going to any similar sized mainstream design agency and get a quote. Get a quote from a few top adult designers (there are only 3 others i could name who could even closely compare) and see their pricing. It's right around the same area. 
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|  10-02-2005, 04:23 AM | #46 | |
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|  10-02-2005, 04:24 AM | #47 | |
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 Soul_Rebel, please remember that when a customer does not provide you with creative freedom, you can NOT deliver something that looks different. Our bigges t handicap last year has been designing TrafficCashGold 3.0 website. We must have at least 10 other clients who were looking for something similar. If we swayed away from the concept, the customer would NOT accept the work. On the other hand, there have been several others, who just allowed us to 'go with it' and see results. Here are a few examples which i have personally liked, and looked different: WebFric - http://envisionextadult.com/portfoli...ric/index.html SunnyCams - http://envisionextadult.com/portfoli...ams/index.html WegCash (not released) SoulCash (not released) 
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|  10-02-2005, 04:27 AM | #48 | |
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  )))))) 
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|  10-02-2005, 04:29 AM | #49 | 
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				 | You are absolutely right on this, I should mention it as well. Let me revise by saying many of the upcoming aff. program owners don't have a clue on what they want. | 
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|  10-02-2005, 04:29 AM | #50 | 
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