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Old 02-25-2002, 03:42 PM   #1
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FantasyMan money?

I've heard of good ratios on some of their sites - but I wanted to consult with the GFY panel of experts before pushing any traffic there -

What does everyone think of them?
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Old 02-25-2002, 03:56 PM   #2
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they are ok but not great for me
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Old 02-25-2002, 04:11 PM   #3
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good people, converts great for me, see signature =-)
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Old 02-25-2002, 04:52 PM   #4
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Kush, my ratio with TB is 1:40 , so it's much better than yours.

http://www.topbucks.com
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Old 02-25-2002, 05:02 PM   #5
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FantasyMan does well for me - but I do get a high rate of cancelations. That doesn't suprise me due to the way I am marketing it - they say their average is around 50%. It still allows you to promote free trials and they are totally reliable. They are probably around #2 for me for sponsors right now.

Cash - your ratios are better than mine - bet I beat you on SALES for Saturday though

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Old 02-25-2002, 05:20 PM   #6
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Chris R, you do have more sales indeed. For me this Saturday, was also a very special day, I had 13 sales, with a conversion ratio of 1:18 (240 uniques), the highest ever I achieved with TB or any other program.

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Old 02-25-2002, 05:57 PM   #7
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Kush, my ratio with TB is 1:40 , so it's much better than yours.

http://www.topbucks.com
yeah yeah, but I'll help ppl out if they signup under me
what do YOU offer?

No, but mine's down to about 1:110 this period - I just don't feel like updating my sig
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Old 02-25-2002, 06:54 PM   #8
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Fantasyman's program has been highly touted by a lot of people, but personally, I think it's better to get paid per trial signup $40, then $50 per active member. You'd be better off going with any old partnership program if you want to wait for a full membership because they you at least get the rebills. I have had people get 10 signups on a 'active member site program' and only have 3 recur. That sucks, cause then you only get $150, where if you sent the same signups to another program like ARS, maxcash, or topbucks, etc you'd get 35-40x10 = $350=400 for the same signups. It just doesn't make sense (to me) to go with active member signups.

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Old 02-25-2002, 07:08 PM   #9
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Daymare - we still have our oldest program - Follow Me - it pays $40 per paid $2.95 trial. And we pay 40% of all dialer revenue.

Realtime stats, 26 different counters to track banner productivity, realtime refers. 14 sites to promote, we pay on all exits.

http://www.fantasymanmoney.com/program_follow.html

We also have Follow Me Free Partners - pays 60% - free trials

http://www.fantasymanmoney.com/progr...tnerships.html

I'm curious why you thought we only had per active modeled programs?

good luck to you all!!

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Old 02-25-2002, 11:20 PM   #10
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You're not necessarily better off getting $40 per paid trial than you are getting $50 per active, simply because free trials convert a fuck of a lot better than paid trials, and the word FREE in your text link will get you more clicks.

(The only time I think the "per active" model is a bad idea is when its for a paid trial, if you're gonna give me $35 per trial or $50 per active on a paid trial, well DUH!)

Just like any other sponsor, throw traffic at different programs and compare results. I have friends who swear by certain sponsors that I couldn't sell to save my life, and vice versa. There's no hard and fast rules about which program is "the best"

As for FM's proggie, his stats are a bit of a pain in the ass, but they are very detailed, and the checks are always here on time
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Old 02-25-2002, 11:25 PM   #11
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Old 02-26-2002, 12:22 AM   #12
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Kush, I am sure you will tell your referred newbies how you get your golden eggs, i.e. exactly how you get the best (converting) signups for which program, on what site, with what traffic ... so they can copy you and compete you
Otherwise, for general info, they can always consult the newbie boards, there is a lot of practical general info out there.
But to help YOU (as you said) and answer your initial question, since you are a college student and therefore new in the biz, let me tell you Fantasyman's programs (CE) are among the first in the biz, lots of webmasters know them and they are highly reputable. They have so many options to fit all kind of traffic, that you can already signup for them. They have parntership programs (60%), per active ($50 or $45 for any sites whether it's the first or from exits), per trial ($40 - first or exits), you can disable exits if you want to, you get 40% of their dialer income, free content and POTD to promote, free programs (kind of mailers, but can be promoted with FPA) - $1 per email plus $10 for per active upsells from the respective emails whether it's now or after a month), you can get a free counter while getting paid ($25) for the 3-day free trials with cashcount and gaycashcount programs, you can use their free host with their banners as headers but with your referral code, so you don't miss any signup, you can sell Viagra ($50 per order) and other medicines, and others. They have many niches to promote, and a new type of program launched (payitforward). If you compare with other sponsors, you'll see their content (number of pics, streaming videos, live shows, hidden cams) is a lot more, so easier to promote and sell. You have a wide option with cybererotica, and you should see in time what suites you best. Not all programs will convert high for you, it really depends on your (or each one's) traffic and promo, but there is one thing you should know about them (which many other sponsors fail to achieve): complete reliability - superfast webmaster support on their own board and payment like clockwork. In case your check fails to get to you, which is seldom, you'll get a fast reply and a fast replacement.

I hope this helped you, Kush
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Old 02-26-2002, 12:37 AM   #13
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Fantasyman >> thanks for the heads up on your other program options, I have used your sites in the past, but without that great of results. I might try your per trial though.. does it pay $40 flat out for every trial or does it depend on how many signups you send each pay period? (I could goto your site and get the details, but I'm right here, so I thought I'd ask you in person in case there were other people interested in knowing as well)

Thanks
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Old 03-01-2002, 01:13 AM   #14
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Fantasyman >> thanks for the heads up on your other program options, I have used your sites in the past, but without that great of results. I might try your per trial though.. does it pay $40 flat out for every trial or does it depend on how many signups you send each pay period? (I could goto your site and get the details, but I'm right here, so I thought I'd ask you in person in case there were other people interested in knowing as well)

Thanks
Daymare it pays $40 for EVERY trial sign up and exit sign ups - no deductions - it's our oldest program and we've updated it to realtime stats

http://www.fantasymanmoney.com/program_follow.html
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Old 03-01-2002, 01:44 AM   #15
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I hope this helped you, Kush
lol, I appreciate it Cash

I've been around for over a year - I wouldn't consider myself new
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Old 03-01-2002, 05:29 AM   #16
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kush, from the title i thought you were looking for donations ;)
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