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wedouglas · 09-17-2005, 06:14 PM

Anyone on here use the ad format below for all their Google Adwords?

Whoever it is, they are on just about every adwords i've searched and in the number one spot. They are bidding like $10+ per click on every keyword.

The system may have faults, but this guy is going to get burned...

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Shoehorn! · 09-17-2005, 06:16 PM

Sounds like fun.

chaze · 09-17-2005, 06:17 PM

Maybe we should gang up and click it muuuuhhhhaaaaaa

The Ghost · 09-17-2005, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaze

Maybe we should gang up and click it muuuuhhhhaaaaaa

$10 per click? He better be converting like a mutha.

Sosa · 09-17-2005, 06:38 PM

damn $10/click heh.

throwdown · 09-17-2005, 06:40 PM

hitbot it 500 times

wedouglas · 09-17-2005, 06:48 PM

I just created an ad on a diff domain and put it at $50 per click and it came up below him. Hahaha.

That will teach him to do stupid shit like that.

This idiot is driving up min bids for no reason. Jackass costs everyone more money.

Machete_ · 09-17-2005, 06:49 PM

This is the guy
http://www.mikesapartment.com/main.h...videos&p=clean

Machete_ · 09-17-2005, 06:55 PM

Looks like he is a scammer
http://www.mashada.com/forums/index/...2531/index.php

Machete_ · 09-17-2005, 06:56 PM

it is danish names... dont know of they are danish

wedouglas · 09-17-2005, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebus_dk

Looks like he is a scammer
http://www.mashada.com/forums/index/...2531/index.php

?? I don't get what you are showing me.

Nismo · 09-17-2005, 07:00 PM

it is me and i am making mad bank.

NoCarrier · 09-17-2005, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wedouglas

I just created an ad on a diff domain and put it at $50 per click and it came up below him. Hahaha.

That will teach him to do stupid shit like that.

This idiot is driving up min bids for no reason. Jackass costs everyone more money.

So you are going to pay 50$ per click just to teach a newbie?

wedouglas · 09-17-2005, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoCarrier

So you are going to pay 50$ per click just to teach a newbie?

No, I pay one cent above the people below me. so he pays 50.01 and I pay .06.

I'm not competing for the domain, just the rank.

Machete_ · 09-17-2005, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wedouglas

?? I don't get what you are showing me.

If you dig i little on google you will se that this is the people behind it
Its called New World Solutions Ltd and run at least 40 other domains
using the same info. Dug it up bu backtracing the Affiliate ID www.mikesapartment.com/main.htm id=livexxxvideos

Domain ID 103649667-LROR
Domain Name:NYACHAE.ORG
Created On:01-Jan-2004 16:49:57 UTC
Last Updated On:22-Mar-2004 22:56:27 UTC
Expiration Date:01-Jan-2005 16:49:57 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:R39-LROR
Status:OK
Registrant ID:287E101351946115
Registrant Name:Marius Mikkelsen
Registrant Organization:New World Solutions Ltd
Registrant Street1:Suite 99,L.11, Centro Commcerc
Registrant City:Marbella
Registrant Postal Code:29660
Registrant Country:ES
Registrant Email:[email protected]
Admin ID:287E101351946115
Admin Name:Marius Mikkelsen
Admin Organization:New World Solutions Ltd
Admin Street1:Suite 99,L.11, Centro Commcerc
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NoCarrier · 09-17-2005, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wedouglas

No, I pay one cent above the people below me. so he pays 50.01 and I pay .06.

I'm not competing for the domain, just the rank.

No, according to what you are saying, he's currently paying 07 cents per click. The max bid is not what he's currently paying. He would pay 50$ per click if the 2nd spot was also bidding 50$ and below.

wedouglas · 09-17-2005, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoCarrier

No, according to what you are saying, he's currently paying 07 cents per click. The max bid is not what he's currently paying. He would pay 50$ per click if the 2nd spot was also bidding 50$ and below.

I am number 2 on the list with $50 per click. He is above me. He pays .01 above the next highest bid below him (my $50), and I pay .01 above the next highest bid below me..

NoCarrier · 09-17-2005, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wedouglas

I am number 2 on the list with $50 per click. He is above me. He pays .01 above the next highest bid below him (my $50), and I pay .01 above the next highest bid below me..

You just said that you bid 06 cents for the keyword? Now you are saying that you bid 50$?

Ok I get it.. You are currently at 06 cents, but, at the end of the night, your avg cpc will skyrocket until it reaches 50$ per click. So I am asking you again, you are going to pay 50$ per click just to teach a newbie?

wedouglas · 09-17-2005, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoCarrier

You just said that you bid 06 cents for the keyword? Now you are saying that you bid 50$? At the end of the night, you avg cpc will skyrocket until it reaches 50$ per click. So I am asking you again, you are going to pay 50$ per click just to teach a newbie?

Listen I know how adwords works. I make a lot of money off it.

This is what will happen.

He is bidding like $75 and has the top spot. I am in the second spot and I am bidding $50. You only pay $.01 above the max CPC of the person below you. So if the person below me is $.05, I will pay $.06.

Because I am below him, he will pay $.01 above my max bid. My max bid is $50.

Get it?

wedouglas · 09-17-2005, 07:19 PM

There is no average. Nothing averages. You pay above the person below you, that is all.

Nightwind · 09-17-2005, 08:19 PM

I thought CTR was a factor also, not just the max CPC. Atleast it used to be like that.

TheSenator · 09-17-2005, 08:22 PM

I don't see anything... What are the keywords?

Beejeebers · 09-17-2005, 09:41 PM

He could be paying $0.05 per click. Rank is determined by CTR x QSA. Just because you bid $50 and are in second place, does NOT mean he is paying $50.01. If his CTR is high and his QSA is high, he can pay LESS then you and still get a better position. If you truely are making money with adwords, you could be making a lot more if you did some research.

In overture, what you say is correct as that system is based PURELY on the amount of the bid to determine rank. However, adwords is not the same, (not even close).

studiocritic · 09-17-2005, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beejeebers

He could be paying $0.05 per click. Rank is determined by CTR x QSA. Just because you bid $50 and are in second place, does NOT mean he is paying $50.01. If his CTR is high and his QSA is high, he can pay LESS then you and still get a better position. If you truely are making money with adwords, you could be making a lot more if you did some research.

In overture, what you say is correct as that system is based PURELY on the amount of the bid to determine rank. However, adwords is not the same, (not even close).

Beejeebers is exactly right.. kudos to him for understanding how it works.. I was writing a reply when I saw this one, pretty much sums up everything I had in mind.

CaptainObvious · 09-17-2005, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beejeebers

He could be paying $0.05 per click. Rank is determined by CTR x QSA. Just because you bid $50 and are in second place, does NOT mean he is paying $50.01. If his CTR is high and his QSA is high, he can pay LESS then you and still get a better position. If you truely are making money with adwords, you could be making a lot more if you did some research.

In overture, what you say is correct as that system is based PURELY on the amount of the bid to determine rank. However, adwords is not the same, (not even close).

Bingo!

Doctor Dre · 09-17-2005, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wedouglas

No, I pay one cent above the people below me. so he pays 50.01 and I pay .06.

I'm not competing for the domain, just the rank.

This can be both ways budy ... just hope you don't get owned

Doctor Dre · 09-17-2005, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoCarrier

No, according to what you are saying, he's currently paying 07 cents per click. The max bid is not what he's currently paying. He would pay 50$ per click if the 2nd spot was also bidding 50$ and below.

Yep but he can get owned by the system easily

Ray Nagin · 09-17-2005, 10:11 PM

yuppers adwords is a bitch

Beejeebers · 09-17-2005, 10:42 PM

I recently made adwords my bitch.

She put up a good fight, but I wore her down.

Ninja Scripts · 09-17-2005, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wedouglas

Listen I know how adwords works. I make a lot of money off it.

This is what will happen.

He is bidding like $75 and has the top spot. I am in the second spot and I am bidding $50. You only pay $.01 above the max CPC of the person below you. So if the person below me is $.05, I will pay $.06.

Because I am below him, he will pay $.01 above my max bid. My max bid is $50.

Get it?

Dear sir,

You are wrong.

High Quality · 09-17-2005, 10:50 PM

Can't make money on google adwords. Too many dickless slimebags hit bot that shit.

wedouglas · 09-18-2005, 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninja Scripts

Dear sir,

You are wrong.

Sorry I am not, I talk with their people almost every day. I know what I am doing.

wedouglas · 09-18-2005, 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beejeebers

He could be paying $0.05 per click. Rank is determined by CTR x QSA. Just because you bid $50 and are in second place, does NOT mean he is paying $50.01. If his CTR is high and his QSA is high, he can pay LESS then you and still get a better position. If you truely are making money with adwords, you could be making a lot more if you did some research.

In overture, what you say is correct as that system is based PURELY on the amount of the bid to determine rank. However, adwords is not the same, (not even close).

Nah, you are wrong. CTR can't withstand prices of $50 while maintaining ads on porn.

I spoke with several of their people about this. What you are saying is that you could get a high CTR then bid $100 and retain your spot indefinately at a low price.

Doesn't work like that. WHen dollar amounts get that high, your CTR means shit. Either way your costs are going to be ridiculously high.

Once again people, I do this all the time, I know what I am doing. I have knocked this guys ads down from a bunch of stuff and paid liittle to nothing.

StatsJunky · 09-18-2005, 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebus_dk

If you dig i little on google you will se that this is the people behind it
Its called New World Solutions Ltd and run at least 40 other domains
using the same info. Dug it up bu backtracing the Affiliate ID www.mikesapartment.com/main.htm id=livexxxvideos

Domain ID 103649667-LROR
Domain Name:NYACHAE.ORG
Created On:01-Jan-2004 16:49:57 UTC
Last Updated On:22-Mar-2004 22:56:27 UTC
Expiration Date:01-Jan-2005 16:49:57 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:R39-LROR
Status:OK
Registrant ID:287E101351946115
Registrant Name:Marius Mikkelsen
Registrant Organization:New World Solutions Ltd
Registrant Street1:Suite 99,L.11, Centro Commcerc
Registrant City:Marbella
Registrant Postal Code:29660
Registrant Country:ES
Registrant Email:[email protected]
Admin ID:287E101351946115
Admin Name:Marius Mikkelsen
Admin Organization:New World Solutions Ltd
Admin Street1:Suite 99,L.11, Centro Commcerc
Admin City:Marbella
Admin Postal Code:29660
Admin Country:ES
Admin Email:[email protected]
Tech ID:287E101351946115
Tech Name:Marius Mikkelsen
Tech Organization:New World Solutions Ltd
Tech Street1:Suite 99,L.11, Centro Commcerc
Tech City:Marbella
Tech Postal Code:29660
Tech Country:ES
Tech Email:[email protected]
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DesignBureau Ltd.
DesignBureau, p.o. box 100
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Same guy that runs Martinpeak.com. He likes to Hijack peoples listings also. Wouldn't surprise me if this was a scam also.

ibuydomains · 09-18-2005, 05:32 AM

he is probably using stolen credit cards to buy the traffic

Linkster · 09-18-2005, 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StatsJunky

Same guy that runs Martinpeak.com. He likes to Hijack peoples listings also. Wouldn't surprise me if this was a scam also.

Yep - he's around here - Ive seen him posting - biggest scammer Ive ever run across - Ive seen him hijack everyone from Greenguy, Tommy, myself and Richard with no qualms whatsoever. Thats why none of the Linklists will take any submissions that have affiliates from the martinpeak cash sites anymore. He also has tried to get a few of the larger TGPs as well but we took him down real quick on that.
I guess Im gonna have to call Google again since they already have at least 5 DMCAs on him that were accepted by them. Let them know who he is.

wedouglas · 09-18-2005, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linkster

Yep - he's around here - Ive seen him posting - biggest scammer Ive ever run across - Ive seen him hijack everyone from Greenguy, Tommy, myself and Richard with no qualms whatsoever. Thats why none of the Linklists will take any submissions that have affiliates from the martinpeak cash sites anymore. He also has tried to get a few of the larger TGPs as well but we took him down real quick on that.
I guess Im gonna have to call Google again since they already have at least 5 DMCAs on him that were accepted by them. Let them know who he is.

So this google thing is a scam for sure?

StatsJunky · 09-18-2005, 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wedouglas

So this google thing is a scam for sure?

If the whois info that was posted is right... More than likely this guy has found a loophole and is trying to scam.

Linkster · 09-18-2005, 05:59 AM

Not sure about the google adwords thing - as I only see links that go directly to the real paysite - so Im not sure where the poster above came up with the domain registered to NWS - but if you see a domain from these people you can be sure they are scamming somehow - its been that way for a few years now.

wedouglas · 09-18-2005, 06:04 AM

Yeah, I don't know how he got that info

wedouglas · 09-18-2005, 06:07 AM

Hm this guy's ad now uses

id=danate

I wonder if it changes everyday. I'm going to figure out what this guy is up to...

alexg · 09-18-2005, 06:17 AM

hmm my guess is maybe he's using a stolen credit card or something like that to pay google and just goes wild?

Marshal · 09-18-2005, 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wedouglas

Listen I know how adwords works. I make a lot of money off it.

This is what will happen.

He is bidding like $75 and has the top spot. I am in the second spot and I am bidding $50. You only pay $.01 above the max CPC of the person below you. So if the person below me is $.05, I will pay $.06.

Because I am below him, he will pay $.01 above my max bid. My max bid is $50.

Get it?

You are trying to be wicked, heh! ;)

09-17-2005, 06:14 PM	#1
wedouglas So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Dearborn, MI Posts: 5,921	Who the fuck is this on Google? Anyone on here use the ad format below for all their Google Adwords? Whoever it is, they are on just about every adwords i've searched and in the number one spot. They are bidding like $10+ per click on every keyword. The system may have faults, but this guy is going to get burned... Mike's Apartment www.MikesApartment.com Join the premier porn site, Mikes Apartment today! MikesApartment - Mikes Apartment

09-17-2005, 06:16 PM	#2
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09-17-2005, 06:48 PM	#7
wedouglas So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Dearborn, MI Posts: 5,921	I just created an ad on a diff domain and put it at $50 per click and it came up below him. Hahaha. That will teach him to do stupid shit like that. This idiot is driving up min bids for no reason. Jackass costs everyone more money. Last edited by wedouglas; 09-17-2005 at 06:50 PM..

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09-17-2005, 06:55 PM	#9
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wedouglas So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Dearborn, MI Posts: 5,921	There is no average. Nothing averages. You pay above the person below you, that is all.

09-17-2005, 08:22 PM	#22
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wedouglas So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Dearborn, MI Posts: 5,921	Hm this guy's ad now uses id=danate I wonder if it changes everyday. I'm going to figure out what this guy is up to...

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