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Old 09-15-2005, 07:21 PM   #51
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Old 09-15-2005, 07:22 PM   #52
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Old 09-15-2005, 07:41 PM   #53
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Old 09-15-2005, 07:49 PM   #54
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I paid them 5k to build two 150k sites, They Failed big time.
I did get my money back in the end, From the looks of this thread I was Lucky!

I do know one other guy that was ripped off by them too for around 3k.

I have the owners of MGPbuilders real name and address lying around somewhere.

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Old 09-15-2005, 07:55 PM   #55
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building a ton of sites up is not easy not that suprised they have dissapeared i saw the writing on the wall about this a long time ago.
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Old 09-15-2005, 07:58 PM   #56
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Erik Smit
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I befriended this fucker to get my money back they day he paid me back,
I never answered a single message.

I've got months and months of ICQ logs on this guy.
Let me go threw them and get more info I have on him.
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Old 09-15-2005, 07:59 PM   #57
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Old 09-15-2005, 08:04 PM   #58
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Old 09-15-2005, 08:09 PM   #59
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I know His Partner "mcr" posts quite a bit on VideosBoard
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Old 09-15-2005, 08:12 PM   #60
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hmmm this is interesting,
Looks like he conveniently left mgpbuilders just before he they ran off with everybodys money!
http://videosboard.com/showthread.php?t=12162

Trying to save his name at a guess
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Old 09-15-2005, 08:29 PM   #61
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hmmm this is interesting,
Looks like he conveniently left mgpbuilders just before he they ran off with everybodys money!
http://videosboard.com/showthread.php?t=12162

Trying to save his name at a guess

Funny thing is a few more people are messaging looking to give him work
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Old 09-16-2005, 12:53 AM   #62
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bump to get to front page and warn people!
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Old 09-16-2005, 02:32 AM   #63
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As I posted in the other thread, we got scammed by those guys for $4250 too.

The info JayJay posted is/was correct. The guy behind this is Erik Smit. He used to live in The Netherlands and that is also why we got our money back. My business partner has put quite a bit of pressure on him.

Last thing I heared was that he moved to another country.

This is his hosting company http://www.switchbox.net/

I had endless conversations with him over ICQ and mail about getting the money back. My business partner had conversations with him over the phone. I'm pretty sure he is out of money now and that the people who don't have their money back by now never will. It's sad but true.

He scammed his clients, simple as that.
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Old 09-16-2005, 02:54 AM   #64
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Wow... a bit of drama.
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Old 09-16-2005, 06:08 AM   #65
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If the guy was smart he would have atleast gave you a quick design and domain that way he claims he delivered and you ran it into the ground. Sounds like a civil matter, and you aint gonna get shit. How could you be so dumb is the most disturbing part of this thread

I paid for the domains and did get 2 designs, plus comus and trade scripts....


they are ready to be build, he did add some few trades for some month back, but nothing happen to those sites:-( they never had traffic or has traffic right now... really fucked up...

lol I was a newbie !!!... did´t know that much back then, as I do now;)
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Old 09-16-2005, 06:13 AM   #66
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We heard that he / they moved to Isreal - and yes they owe us also $1K or something we got most back.
I also got told that he lives in Isreal... but its back in holland again.. maybe. lol
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Old 09-16-2005, 06:29 AM   #67
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If he lives in Holland I'll collect for 50%.......GUARANTEED
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Old 09-16-2005, 07:04 AM   #68
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I can't believe so many people paid thousands of dollars up front. Chatting with someone on ICQ does not mean you KNOW them.

I really hope you guys can recover at least some of your money.
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Old 09-16-2005, 08:09 AM   #69
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lol, not sure if it's the same Erik but I had one repeatedly pleading for help with growing his site... a few months later I saw he had his own TGP builders site. No idea if it's the same guy/site but the memory makes for a good laugh.
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Old 09-16-2005, 08:58 AM   #70
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hmmm this is interesting,
Looks like he conveniently left mgpbuilders just before he they ran off with everybodys money!
http://videosboard.com/showthread.php?t=12162

Trying to save his name at a guess
I think MCR was only doing designs for MGPBuilders not the actual building
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Old 09-16-2005, 09:23 AM   #71
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lol, not sure if it's the same Erik but I had one repeatedly pleading for help with growing his site... a few months later I saw he had his own TGP builders site. No idea if it's the same guy/site but the memory makes for a good laugh.
Same guy. I remember calling him out on that when he started building sites.
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