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|  03-22-2005, 06:55 PM | #1 | 
| in a van by the river Industry Role:  Join Date: May 2003 
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				Why do people even call their sites TGP's
			 When you click on the thumbs and you get 4 trades and one gallery in the first 5 clicks?  Then they wonder why I kill the trade... 
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|  03-22-2005, 06:59 PM | #2 | |
| Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NY 
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 Slow and steady 
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|  03-22-2005, 07:36 PM | #3 | |
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|  03-22-2005, 07:39 PM | #5 | 
| FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role:  Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky 
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				 | what i love is clicking a thumb and getting a gallery 5/5 times | 
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|  03-22-2005, 07:39 PM | #6 | 
| I need a beer   Industry Role:  Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ♠ Toiletville ♠ 
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				 | Send them bot traffic 
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|  03-22-2005, 07:40 PM | #7 | |
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|  03-22-2005, 07:43 PM | #8 | 
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				 | 50-65% skim is pretty standard across the board. | 
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|  03-22-2005, 07:44 PM | #9 | 
| Outside looking in. Industry Role:  Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: To Hell You Ride 
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				 | Mine is always 1st click to gallery. I have tested it from time to time and in 10 clicks on avg 2 go to trades. Takes longer to build traffic but in the end it will pay off. 
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|  03-22-2005, 07:46 PM | #10 | 
| Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Russia 
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				 | The fucking golden mean.. I had tgp with 100% to content. Now i realised that it's too hard to get enough traffic if i will do the same. Do you think 80% 2 content is the best way out for me? | 
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|  03-22-2005, 10:15 PM | #11 | |
| in a van by the river Industry Role:  Join Date: May 2003 
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 It is? I remember not so long ago 50-65% skim were considered CJ's and not TGP's. Since when did a CJ become a TGP? Traffic from sites like those sucks ass. 
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|  03-22-2005, 11:39 PM | #12 | |
| Icq: 14420613 Industry Role:  Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: chicago 
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|  03-23-2005, 12:03 AM | #13 | 
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				 | Maybe you're trading with the wrong sites! | 
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|  05-02-2005, 02:31 PM | #14 | 
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				 | sheesh, apart from sandman & DaLord, you idiots know nothing. you're too busy get around the 1 gallery submit per day limit     a gallery submitter scum like you is lower than a freeloading surfer    | 
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|  05-02-2005, 02:33 PM | #15 | |
| i have man boobies Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: van down by the river 
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|  05-02-2005, 02:35 PM | #16 | |
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|  05-02-2005, 02:35 PM | #17 | 
| Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role:  Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA 
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				 | I call it a TGP because it makes me a few grand a month... So there! | 
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|  05-02-2005, 02:37 PM | #18 | 
| The Thrilla in Manila Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Thurbs' Lagoon, Christmas Island 
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				 | the difference in .5% skim can make all the difference, not sure where ppl think 75+ % is even close to acceptable. | 
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|  05-02-2005, 02:46 PM | #19 | |
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 Maybe some newbs on gfy cj sites had consoles and were nasty but i guess you never ran a cj site and have no idea what im talking about. 
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|  05-02-2005, 02:49 PM | #20 | |
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|  05-02-2005, 02:52 PM | #21 | |
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|  05-02-2005, 02:54 PM | #22 | |
| i have man boobies Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: van down by the river 
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|  05-02-2005, 03:05 PM | #23 | |
| in a van by the river Industry Role:  Join Date: May 2003 
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 There is a big difference in the the traffic, I'd rather have a site with quality traffic than one that is little more than a waste of BW. 
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|  05-02-2005, 03:08 PM | #25 | 
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				 | are you talking about a certain site in particular? 
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|  05-02-2005, 03:14 PM | #26 | |
| in a van by the river Industry Role:  Join Date: May 2003 
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|  05-02-2005, 03:39 PM | #27 | 
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				 |  i c u postwore on GFY back in 92' u spam teh traffic trades with referral links, u Jew... u ask me 2 join ur circle jerk on ICQ.... Oh oh, oh!  ur future children.. Oh oh, oh!  oh wtf will u tell them?  TRAFFIC TRADES KILLED THE TGP STAR!  TRAFFIC TRADES KILLED THE TGP STAR! in ur mind, u were so smart, u d0s'd my topsite and went to far,   TRAFFIC TRADES KILLED THE TGP STAR!  TRAFFIC TRADES KILLED THE TGP STAR! TRAFFIC TRADES KILLED THE TGP STAR! TRAFFIC TRADES KILLED THE TGP STAR! YOU ARRRRRRRRRRGH! killed the TGP, TRAFFIC TRADE WHOAAAAARRGH!  YOU ARRRRRRRRRRGH! killed the TGP, A FAIRY POSTWHOAAAAARRGH!  YOU ARRRRRRRRRRGH! killed the TGP, TRAFFIC TRADE WHOAAAAARRGH!  YOU ARRRRRRRRRRGH! killed the TGP, A FAIRY POSTWHOAAAAARRGH!   | 
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|  05-02-2005, 03:39 PM | #28 | |
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|  05-02-2005, 03:41 PM | #29 | 
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				 | "This message is hidden because MyNameIsEmily is on your ignore list." Damn, you must have been one hell of an idiot to end up on my ignore list (which i never knew i had!)      | 
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|  05-02-2005, 04:12 PM | #30 | 
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				 | funny how n00bs always seem to forget their first posts... http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=438875 | 
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|  05-02-2005, 04:21 PM | #31 | 
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|  05-02-2005, 04:42 PM | #32 | |
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 Yea sure, dump all the FHGs from a sponsor and hope to get a sale     GFY idiocy at its finest. | |
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|  05-02-2005, 04:43 PM | #33 | 
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				 |  This message is hidden because MyNameIsEmily is on your ignore list. pimp pimp | 
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|  05-02-2005, 10:23 PM | #34 | |
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|  05-02-2005, 10:36 PM | #35 | 
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				 | My thing is this...If I see an interesting pic and I click on it...I want to either A: see the full size version of that pic or B: see a corresponding gallery with that pic on it. I don't want to go to a totally fucking new site....ever! Before you know it you got 10 windows of 10 different sites open and you don't where the fuck you started. From a surfers point of view..  
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|  05-02-2005, 10:39 PM | #36 | 
| Sick Fuck Industry Role:  Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: www 
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				 | You dont need college education to learn this: 1. You only make money if you send surfers to paysites. If that is not your primary goal, you won't survive for long. No matter your traffic. 2. You won't get bookmarkers, quality traders and sales if your site is not quality. Skimming is not quality. 3. You won't make money if you don't work hard to get traffic. There are no easy solutions. Like fake-TGP scripts. If you believe so, repeat step 1 & 2.  | 
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|  05-02-2005, 11:32 PM | #37 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role:  Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless 
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				 | I have my set at 95% to my galleries. and 5% to trades. usually in the 200%+ productivity range. 
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|  05-02-2005, 11:40 PM | #38 | |
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 and how much traffic does it get ? my skim is nowhere near that but i send over 200k a day to gallery's. 
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|  05-02-2005, 11:48 PM | #39 | |
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|  05-02-2005, 11:50 PM | #40 | 
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				 | I think skim mostly ends up losing chances to make a sale and sending surfers to the trades already irritated. 
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|  05-03-2005, 12:42 AM | #41 | 
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|  05-03-2005, 02:52 AM | #42 | |
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|  05-03-2005, 02:59 AM | #43 | 
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				 | Yes that sucks a lot. I hate such a sites. For example I know few very big sites (they call their sites TGPs), which are about 200-300K big, but they send about 30% to galleries and the rest to trades...which sucks!! 
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|  05-03-2005, 03:33 AM | #44 | |
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 Yeah but you are going to make a lot less money long run with 200k shit traffic compared to 200k bookmarkers. Who cares if it takes longer to get the traffic, it wont disappear if trades fuck up, etc. plus you'll get tons more sales | |
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|  05-03-2005, 05:51 AM | #45 | |
| in a van by the river Industry Role:  Join Date: May 2003 
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 I think 60%-70% is a very fine line in the middle and those sites can go either way depending on which group of sites they trade with. I personally rarely have have producitive trades with sites in the 60%'s and I've never had a productive trade with anything lower than 60% the traffic is pure crap IMO. 
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|  05-03-2005, 06:25 AM | #46 | 
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				 | The thing about pure bookmarkers is that those people aren't the people that make you as much money because if they're coming back to your site daily and getting content 80%+ of the time, why the hell would they join up with a paysite ??? | 
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|  05-03-2005, 07:00 AM | #49 | |
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