Will we find a way to cure/treat cancer in our lifetimes... - GoFuckYourself.com

Mako · 09-13-2005, 06:51 PM

Say you're between the age of 25-35...will we find a way to minimize the threat of cancer over the next 50 years that makes it as trivial as Polio, or say the Measels?

Vitamin C 'helps to fight cancer'

Scientists found that intravenous vitamin C in the form of ascorbate killed cancer cells in lab tests.

The findings contradict earlier studies, but the Maryland-based Institutes of Health said they had looked at lower-dose oral vitamin C.

Cancer experts said the "overwhelming" evidence still suggested vitamin C was not an effective treatment.

Studies in the 1970s first suggested the administration of high doses of vitamin C could help treat cancer, but later research did not back this up.

There are many substances that have been shown to kill cancer cells in the lab but failed to fulfil that promise when tested in people

In the latest study, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, researchers conducted laboratory experiments which simulated clinical infusions of vitamin C on a range of nine cancer and four normal cells.

In five of the cancer lines, there was a 50% decrease in cell survival, while normal cells were unaffected.

A more detailed look at lymphoma cells - which were especially sensitive to ascorbate - showed they were killed completely.

The effective dose was around four millimoles, a concentration much higher than an oral dose but easily achievable by intravenous infusion.

Researchers were unable to explain what caused the results, although they did note the treatment led to the formation of hydrogen peroxide, a chemical known to be toxic to cells.

Alternative medicine practitioners have already administered high doses of intravenous ascorbate.

Lead researcher Dr Mark Levine said the treatment would have to be proved safe before being given to patients.

But he added: "Ascorbate as a potential cancer therapeutic agent has a controversial and emotionally charged past."

Henry Scowcroft, senior information officer at Cancer Research UK, said despite the findings, the "overwhelming" evidence still pointed to vitamin C not being an effective treatment.

"This work is at a very early stage. There are many substances that have been shown to kill cancer cells in the lab, but failed to fulfil that promise when tested in people.

"But we do know that eating a healthy, balanced diet, including plenty of fresh fruit and vegetables, is an effective way to reduce the risk of getting cancer in the first place."

pornstar2pac · 09-13-2005, 06:52 PM

you will be dead before they do.

sorry

citizen tower · 09-13-2005, 06:53 PM

We will hardly find cures to anything as the pharmacy companies make too much off of treatment...

Funbrunette · 09-13-2005, 06:56 PM

I hope so...My mom has just been diagnosed with Breast cancer!

Mako · 09-13-2005, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Funbrunette

I hope so...My mom has just been diagnosed with Breast cancer!

Sorry to hear that FB, did they catch it early enough to where the treatment odds are good?

Funbrunette · 09-13-2005, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mako

Sorry to hear that FB, did they catch it early enough to where the treatment odds are good?

Don't know yet I'll find out tomorrow....I hope so!

Spunky · 09-13-2005, 07:03 PM

I hope they do..How many billions have been poured into trying to find a cure...maybe one day

lchaim · 09-13-2005, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Funbrunette

I hope so...My mom has just been diagnosed with Breast cancer!

Really sorry to hear that Funbrunette :/

If you're at all interested in evidence based alternative therapies give Dr Moss's reports a look, I've heard they're pretty solid. Unfortunately I found out I have to order one for a relative that recently got diagnosed with Neuroblastoma :/

http://www.cancerdecisions.com/ is where you can find them, not sure of the cost, will be calling them tommorow myself

PixeLs · 09-13-2005, 08:42 PM

With the way medical science studies and researches are going, I am pretty sure they will come up with the cure within our lifetime.

Holly · 09-13-2005, 08:52 PM

It would be nice, as I have a family member with a fatal tumor. Doesn't look like it's going to happen for him, though, which is sometimes more than I can bear to think about. Treatment has definitely advanced over the years, however.

Jer · 09-13-2005, 08:58 PM

I voted "yes".

tristan_D · 09-14-2005, 12:24 AM

I really hope and pray that they find a cure asap. As of now prevention is our best tool.

Theo The Theologian · 09-14-2005, 12:31 AM

Brother Hammerhead, I feel that cancer will never be "cured" as the medical industry makes far more treating diseases than they do curing them.

Empress_JoinRightNow · 09-14-2005, 12:55 AM

It seems that almost GFY people are very optimistic...a good thing...

Gothbox · 09-14-2005, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Funbrunette

I hope so...My mom has just been diagnosed with Breast cancer!

Thats always horrible news, but keep your head up and think positively as more and more people are surviving cancer now adays than opposed to 15-20 years ago. The advancements they have made even since the 90's is well beyond impressive.

My mom got breast cancer about 13 years ago and was told it doesnt look good and they gave her 11 months to live. She beat it and survived passed that "5 year" survival rate that doctors give cancer patients. 10 years almost to the month she got breast cancer again on the opposite side and was given a bleak outlook. She has since beat it a second time and been given a complete and clean bill of health.

The biggest killer in cancer patients isnt so much the cancer taking you as it is your lifestyle you keep as you are going through the treatments. Your immune system is completely defunct when going through treatments, and something as simple as a dirty doorknob could take you down. Alot more people could survive their cancer episode if only they would change their living habits and keep a safe distance from germs, virus and bacteria.

Ive lived through 3 bouts of cancer with immediate family and it is a very trying and demanding time, but if you can give comfort and support even from a distance it will make all the difference.

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09-13-2005, 06:51 PM	#1
Mako Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The OC baby! Posts: 1,986	Will we find a way to cure/treat cancer in our lifetimes... Say you're between the age of 25-35...will we find a way to minimize the threat of cancer over the next 50 years that makes it as trivial as Polio, or say the Measels? Vitamin C 'helps to fight cancer' Scientists found that intravenous vitamin C in the form of ascorbate killed cancer cells in lab tests. The findings contradict earlier studies, but the Maryland-based Institutes of Health said they had looked at lower-dose oral vitamin C. Cancer experts said the "overwhelming" evidence still suggested vitamin C was not an effective treatment. Studies in the 1970s first suggested the administration of high doses of vitamin C could help treat cancer, but later research did not back this up. There are many substances that have been shown to kill cancer cells in the lab but failed to fulfil that promise when tested in people In the latest study, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, researchers conducted laboratory experiments which simulated clinical infusions of vitamin C on a range of nine cancer and four normal cells. In five of the cancer lines, there was a 50% decrease in cell survival, while normal cells were unaffected. A more detailed look at lymphoma cells - which were especially sensitive to ascorbate - showed they were killed completely. The effective dose was around four millimoles, a concentration much higher than an oral dose but easily achievable by intravenous infusion. Researchers were unable to explain what caused the results, although they did note the treatment led to the formation of hydrogen peroxide, a chemical known to be toxic to cells. Alternative medicine practitioners have already administered high doses of intravenous ascorbate. Lead researcher Dr Mark Levine said the treatment would have to be proved safe before being given to patients. But he added: "Ascorbate as a potential cancer therapeutic agent has a controversial and emotionally charged past." Henry Scowcroft, senior information officer at Cancer Research UK, said despite the findings, the "overwhelming" evidence still pointed to vitamin C not being an effective treatment. "This work is at a very early stage. There are many substances that have been shown to kill cancer cells in the lab, but failed to fulfil that promise when tested in people. "But we do know that eating a healthy, balanced diet, including plenty of fresh fruit and vegetables, is an effective way to reduce the risk of getting cancer in the first place." __________________ Last edited by Mako; 09-13-2005 at 06:53 PM..

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Holly Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Jesusland Posts: 10,017	It would be nice, as I have a family member with a fatal tumor. Doesn't look like it's going to happen for him, though, which is sometimes more than I can bear to think about. Treatment has definitely advanced over the years, however. __________________ War National Damn Champions Eagle

09-13-2005, 08:58 PM	#11
Jer God is Brazilian Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Brazil Posts: 10,601	I voted "yes".

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tristan_D Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,865	I really hope and pray that they find a cure asap. As of now prevention is our best tool. __________________ Increase your sales. Up to $4 per click.

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Theo The Theologian Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,099	Brother Hammerhead, I feel that cancer will never be "cured" as the medical industry makes far more treating diseases than they do curing them. __________________ I'm a hate-fuelled umbrella-wielding photographer with a winning smile, and a way with the ladies. Last edited by Theo The Theologian; 09-14-2005 at 12:32 AM..

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Empress_JoinRightNow Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,207	It seems that almost GFY people are very optimistic...a good thing... __________________