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~Ray · 09-11-2005, 12:24 PM

ever want to get releases for the work you paid for. They will not give you one. They are NOT professional enough.

~Ray

candyflip · 09-11-2005, 12:26 PM

You should be able to get releases, but you shouldn't expect that they're included with the designs you bought.

~Ray · 09-11-2005, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

You should be able to get releases, but you shouldn't expect that they're included with the designs you bought.

They have promised me the release over 10 times since May.. never EVER delivered.

candyflip · 09-11-2005, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex

They have promised me the release over 10 times since May.. never EVER delivered.

Ok...maybe we're thinking of the wrong thing. And if they've promised, they should deliver.

baddog · 09-11-2005, 01:35 PM

I guess I am a little confused . . . what kind of release are they not providing?

Luis Mesa · 09-11-2005, 01:45 PM

thanks for the heads up

Dagwolf · 09-11-2005, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I guess I am a little confused . . . what kind of release are they not providing?

I'm guessing: Model releases for images included in the design?

lakroze · 09-11-2005, 01:59 PM

10x 4 the info

HorseShit · 09-11-2005, 02:17 PM

that sounds crappy Ray

2257-Ben · 09-11-2005, 02:33 PM

Unless your contract with Bluewire Designs specifically states they own the copyrights to the designs they produce AND you agree to the terms of the contract, as a work for hire, you own the rights to the designs and don't need a release (under US Copyright law). Be careful about what rights you sign away in a contract.

baddog · 09-11-2005, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagwolf

I'm guessing: Model releases for images included in the design?

hmm, I thought they specialized in toons

SGS · 09-11-2005, 03:53 PM

Bluewire do excellent work

~Ray · 09-11-2005, 03:56 PM

I had a couple of characters designed for my upcoming site... I needed to get them copywritten and wanted Bluewire to send me a letter stating they designed it and release all rights to me... just for my records to include in my copyright package.

2 sentences on their letterhead... but, can't even get that.

Now I have the characters that say"" Copywritten by... etc and they are not until I get the release and file the package... so I could lose them if someone steals them.

KMR Stitch · 09-11-2005, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SGS

Bluewire do excellent work

English?

Dagwolf · 09-11-2005, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

hmm, I thought they specialized in toons

That WOULD explain the difficulty in obtaining model releases.

BlueWire · 09-11-2005, 05:08 PM

Hi Guys,
Thank you to those who showed me this thread and who have supported us. I'll take the heat on this one....We did a couple toons for Ray which I may add we delivered ahead of schedule.

Ray and I didnt have a contract but I did tell him at some point during the project that he could have a release. This was at the begining of summer I believe and somehow within our expansions, new office, business trips, 2 family deaths and a REALLY crappy secretary that I had....Ray never recieved his release which was nothing more than a piece of paper with a signature essentially.

I take responsibility for this....my fault, my fault, MY fault. I cant say it any better than that

With that being said, there are a lot better ways to my heart then starting flame threads about our company. If you're gonna go to the boards, a simple "How about giving me my damn release Bluewire!" will do the trick.

I've notified Ray that I'll be putting the release together for him today as soon as our moving company is finished up (still moving in to the new offices). I've also offered him 50% off on a design up to 1k in value if we wants to give us another shot. Sorry for the delays Ray

Hopefully this clears this up guys

BlueWire · 09-11-2005, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagwolf

I'm guessing: Model releases for images included in the design?

We did 2 toons for him. I believe he wants a release for records and he wants to trademark them or something. Not sure. He's the only client in our history that has ever asked for one

BlueWire · 09-11-2005, 05:13 PM

I am also offering Ray a free toon if he wants it today.

I'm not such a bad guy right?

Okay...gotta get back to work moving here but I'll make sure that release gets sent out here shortly Ray so that this thread and die into the myst

Dalai lama · 09-11-2005, 05:14 PM

good stuff from bluewire

~Ray · 09-11-2005, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dalai lama

good stuff from bluewire

he is a nice guy
he does good designs
his prices are reasonable
this is his 11th promise to me

we'll see

Shoehorn! · 09-11-2005, 09:00 PM

Mike is a good guy, I am sure he'll do what he can to make you happy.

aico · 09-11-2005, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2257-Ben

Unless your contract with Bluewire Designs specifically states they own the copyrights to the designs they produce AND you agree to the terms of the contract, as a work for hire, you own the rights to the designs and don't need a release (under US Copyright law). Be careful about what rights you sign away in a contract.

Not sure where you came up with that info, but that's false. Designer retains ALL rights to ALL designs unless it specifies Full Rights are transfered in the contract.

Only time this would not be true is if the Designer is an employee of a company and is designing something thru that company, then the company owns the rights.

BlueWire · 09-11-2005, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico

Not sure where you came up with that info, but that's false. Designer retains ALL rights to ALL designs unless it specifies Full Rights are transfered in the contract.

Only time this would not be true is if the Designer is an employee of a company and is designing something thru that company, then the company owns the rights.

This is true...In this case there was no contract but ray wanted the rights and I said that was fine by me as long as we can keep in our portfolio

eroswebmaster · 09-11-2005, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico

Not sure where you came up with that info, but that's false. Designer retains ALL rights to ALL designs unless it specifies Full Rights are transfered in the contract.

Only time this would not be true is if the Designer is an employee of a company and is designing something thru that company, then the company owns the rights.

Yep..this is true..and the funny thing...I'm getting ready to serve someone a wake up notice

BlueWire · 09-11-2005, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

Yep..this is true..and the funny thing...I'm getting ready to serve someone a wake up notice

I dig the new sig

aico · 09-11-2005, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueWire

I dig the new sig

It's so peaceful, and takes me to that happy place

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baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	I guess I am a little confused . . . what kind of release are they not providing?

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09-11-2005, 03:56 PM	#13
~Ray visit hardlinks.org Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Las Vegas , Nv >>> [email protected] or icq 94994627 anytime Posts: 18,362	I had a couple of characters designed for my upcoming site... I needed to get them copywritten and wanted Bluewire to send me a letter stating they designed it and release all rights to me... just for my records to include in my copyright package. 2 sentences on their letterhead... but, can't even get that. Now I have the characters that say"" Copywritten by... etc and they are not until I get the release and file the package... so I could lose them if someone steals them. __________________ Adult Backlinks for Adult Websites - Testimonials Available

09-11-2005, 05:08 PM	#16
BlueWire Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,628	Hi Guys, Thank you to those who showed me this thread and who have supported us. I'll take the heat on this one....We did a couple toons for Ray which I may add we delivered ahead of schedule. Ray and I didnt have a contract but I did tell him at some point during the project that he could have a release. This was at the begining of summer I believe and somehow within our expansions, new office, business trips, 2 family deaths and a REALLY crappy secretary that I had....Ray never recieved his release which was nothing more than a piece of paper with a signature essentially. I take responsibility for this....my fault, my fault, MY fault. I cant say it any better than that With that being said, there are a lot better ways to my heart then starting flame threads about our company. If you're gonna go to the boards, a simple "How about giving me my damn release Bluewire!" will do the trick. I've notified Ray that I'll be putting the release together for him today as soon as our moving company is finished up (still moving in to the new offices). I've also offered him 50% off on a design up to 1k in value if we wants to give us another shot. Sorry for the delays Ray Hopefully this clears this up guys

09-11-2005, 05:13 PM	#18
BlueWire Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,628	I am also offering Ray a free toon if he wants it today. I'm not such a bad guy right? Okay...gotta get back to work moving here but I'll make sure that release gets sent out here shortly Ray so that this thread and die into the myst

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