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~Ray 09-11-2005 12:24 PM

Never use BLUWIRE DESIGNS if you
 
ever want to get releases for the work you paid for. They will not give you one. They are NOT professional enough.

~Ray

candyflip 09-11-2005 12:26 PM

You should be able to get releases, but you shouldn't expect that they're included with the designs you bought.

~Ray 09-11-2005 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip
You should be able to get releases, but you shouldn't expect that they're included with the designs you bought.

They have promised me the release over 10 times since May.. never EVER delivered.

candyflip 09-11-2005 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex
They have promised me the release over 10 times since May.. never EVER delivered.

Ok...maybe we're thinking of the wrong thing. And if they've promised, they should deliver.

baddog 09-11-2005 01:35 PM

I guess I am a little confused . . . what kind of release are they not providing?

Luis Mesa 09-11-2005 01:45 PM

thanks for the heads up

Dagwolf 09-11-2005 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
I guess I am a little confused . . . what kind of release are they not providing?

I'm guessing: Model releases for images included in the design?

lakroze 09-11-2005 01:59 PM

10x 4 the info

HorseShit 09-11-2005 02:17 PM

that sounds crappy Ray

2257-Ben 09-11-2005 02:33 PM

Unless your contract with Bluewire Designs specifically states they own the copyrights to the designs they produce AND you agree to the terms of the contract, as a work for hire, you own the rights to the designs and don't need a release (under US Copyright law). Be careful about what rights you sign away in a contract.

baddog 09-11-2005 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagwolf
I'm guessing: Model releases for images included in the design?


hmm, I thought they specialized in toons

SGS 09-11-2005 03:53 PM

http://www.lady-sonia.com/Updates/blog/cart1.jpg

Bluewire do excellent work :thumbsup

~Ray 09-11-2005 03:56 PM

I had a couple of characters designed for my upcoming site... I needed to get them copywritten and wanted Bluewire to send me a letter stating they designed it and release all rights to me... just for my records to include in my copyright package.

2 sentences on their letterhead... but, can't even get that.

Now I have the characters that say"" Copywritten by... etc and they are not until I get the release and file the package... so I could lose them if someone steals them.

KMR Stitch 09-11-2005 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SGS
http://www.lady-sonia.com/Updates/blog/cart1.jpg

Bluewire do excellent work :thumbsup

English?

Dagwolf 09-11-2005 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
hmm, I thought they specialized in toons

That WOULD explain the difficulty in obtaining model releases. :1orglaugh

BlueWire 09-11-2005 05:08 PM

Hi Guys,
Thank you to those who showed me this thread and who have supported us. I'll take the heat on this one....We did a couple toons for Ray which I may add we delivered ahead of schedule.

Ray and I didnt have a contract but I did tell him at some point during the project that he could have a release. This was at the begining of summer I believe and somehow within our expansions, new office, business trips, 2 family deaths and a REALLY crappy secretary that I had....Ray never recieved his release which was nothing more than a piece of paper with a signature essentially.

I take responsibility for this....my fault, my fault, MY fault. I cant say it any better than that :)

With that being said, there are a lot better ways to my heart then starting flame threads about our company. If you're gonna go to the boards, a simple "How about giving me my damn release Bluewire!" will do the trick. :thumbsup

I've notified Ray that I'll be putting the release together for him today as soon as our moving company is finished up (still moving in to the new offices). I've also offered him 50% off on a design up to 1k in value if we wants to give us another shot. Sorry for the delays Ray

Hopefully this clears this up guys

BlueWire 09-11-2005 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagwolf
I'm guessing: Model releases for images included in the design?

We did 2 toons for him. I believe he wants a release for records and he wants to trademark them or something. Not sure. He's the only client in our history that has ever asked for one

BlueWire 09-11-2005 05:13 PM

I am also offering Ray a free toon if he wants it today.


I'm not such a bad guy right? :winkwink:

Okay...gotta get back to work moving here but I'll make sure that release gets sent out here shortly Ray so that this thread and die into the myst :)

Dalai lama 09-11-2005 05:14 PM

good stuff from bluewire :thumbsup

~Ray 09-11-2005 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dalai lama
good stuff from bluewire :thumbsup

he is a nice guy
he does good designs
his prices are reasonable
this is his 11th promise to me

we'll see

Shoehorn! 09-11-2005 09:00 PM

Mike is a good guy, I am sure he'll do what he can to make you happy.

aico 09-11-2005 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2257-Ben
Unless your contract with Bluewire Designs specifically states they own the copyrights to the designs they produce AND you agree to the terms of the contract, as a work for hire, you own the rights to the designs and don't need a release (under US Copyright law). Be careful about what rights you sign away in a contract.

Not sure where you came up with that info, but that's false. Designer retains ALL rights to ALL designs unless it specifies Full Rights are transfered in the contract.

Only time this would not be true is if the Designer is an employee of a company and is designing something thru that company, then the company owns the rights.

BlueWire 09-11-2005 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico
Not sure where you came up with that info, but that's false. Designer retains ALL rights to ALL designs unless it specifies Full Rights are transfered in the contract.

Only time this would not be true is if the Designer is an employee of a company and is designing something thru that company, then the company owns the rights.

This is true...In this case there was no contract but ray wanted the rights and I said that was fine by me as long as we can keep in our portfolio

eroswebmaster 09-11-2005 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico
Not sure where you came up with that info, but that's false. Designer retains ALL rights to ALL designs unless it specifies Full Rights are transfered in the contract.

Only time this would not be true is if the Designer is an employee of a company and is designing something thru that company, then the company owns the rights.


Yep..this is true..and the funny thing...I'm getting ready to serve someone a wake up notice :1orglaugh

BlueWire 09-11-2005 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eroswebmaster
Yep..this is true..and the funny thing...I'm getting ready to serve someone a wake up notice :1orglaugh

I dig the new sig :1orglaugh

aico 09-11-2005 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueWire
I dig the new sig :1orglaugh

It's so peaceful, and takes me to that happy place :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


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