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  • ~Ray
    visit hardlinks.org
    • Jun 2003
    • 18361

    #1

    Never use BLUWIRE DESIGNS if you

    ever want to get releases for the work you paid for. They will not give you one. They are NOT professional enough.

    ~Ray
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  • candyflip
    Carpe Visio
    • Jul 2002
    • 43070

    #2
    You should be able to get releases, but you shouldn't expect that they're included with the designs you bought.

    Spend you some brain.
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    • ~Ray
      visit hardlinks.org
      • Jun 2003
      • 18361

      #3
      Originally posted by candyflip
      You should be able to get releases, but you shouldn't expect that they're included with the designs you bought.
      They have promised me the release over 10 times since May.. never EVER delivered.
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      • candyflip
        Carpe Visio
        • Jul 2002
        • 43070

        #4
        Originally posted by AdvertisingSex
        They have promised me the release over 10 times since May.. never EVER delivered.
        Ok...maybe we're thinking of the wrong thing. And if they've promised, they should deliver.

        Spend you some brain.
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        • baddog
          So Fucking Banned
          • Apr 2001
          • 107089

          #5
          I guess I am a little confused . . . what kind of release are they not providing?

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          • Luis Mesa
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2005
            • 120

            #6
            thanks for the heads up
            SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

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            • Dagwolf
              President of Canada
              • Sep 2003
              • 23141

              #7
              Originally posted by baddog
              I guess I am a little confused . . . what kind of release are they not providing?
              I'm guessing: Model releases for images included in the design?
              Sleep well, and dream of large women.

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              • lakroze
                Confirmed User
                • Dec 2004
                • 3527

                #8
                10x 4 the info

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                • HorseShit
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 17513

                  #9
                  that sounds crappy Ray

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                  • 2257-Ben
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 633

                    #10
                    Unless your contract with Bluewire Designs specifically states they own the copyrights to the designs they produce AND you agree to the terms of the contract, as a work for hire, you own the rights to the designs and don't need a release (under US Copyright law). Be careful about what rights you sign away in a contract.
                    2257-Ben
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                    • baddog
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Apr 2001
                      • 107089

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Dagwolf
                      I'm guessing: Model releases for images included in the design?

                      hmm, I thought they specialized in toons

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                      • SGS
                        Confirmed User
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 5176

                        #12


                        Bluewire do excellent work
                        See sig...

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                        • ~Ray
                          visit hardlinks.org
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 18361

                          #13
                          I had a couple of characters designed for my upcoming site... I needed to get them copywritten and wanted Bluewire to send me a letter stating they designed it and release all rights to me... just for my records to include in my copyright package.

                          2 sentences on their letterhead... but, can't even get that.

                          Now I have the characters that say"" Copywritten by... etc and they are not until I get the release and file the package... so I could lose them if someone steals them.
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                          • KMR Stitch
                            I am cool
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 14494

                            #14
                            Originally posted by SGS


                            Bluewire do excellent work
                            English?

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                            • Dagwolf
                              President of Canada
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 23141

                              #15
                              Originally posted by baddog
                              hmm, I thought they specialized in toons
                              That WOULD explain the difficulty in obtaining model releases.
                              Sleep well, and dream of large women.

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                              • BlueWire
                                Confirmed User
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 4628

                                #16
                                Hi Guys,
                                Thank you to those who showed me this thread and who have supported us. I'll take the heat on this one....We did a couple toons for Ray which I may add we delivered ahead of schedule.

                                Ray and I didnt have a contract but I did tell him at some point during the project that he could have a release. This was at the begining of summer I believe and somehow within our expansions, new office, business trips, 2 family deaths and a REALLY crappy secretary that I had....Ray never recieved his release which was nothing more than a piece of paper with a signature essentially.

                                I take responsibility for this....my fault, my fault, MY fault. I cant say it any better than that

                                With that being said, there are a lot better ways to my heart then starting flame threads about our company. If you're gonna go to the boards, a simple "How about giving me my damn release Bluewire!" will do the trick.

                                I've notified Ray that I'll be putting the release together for him today as soon as our moving company is finished up (still moving in to the new offices). I've also offered him 50% off on a design up to 1k in value if we wants to give us another shot. Sorry for the delays Ray

                                Hopefully this clears this up guys

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                                • BlueWire
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Nov 2004
                                  • 4628

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Dagwolf
                                  I'm guessing: Model releases for images included in the design?
                                  We did 2 toons for him. I believe he wants a release for records and he wants to trademark them or something. Not sure. He's the only client in our history that has ever asked for one

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                                  • BlueWire
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Nov 2004
                                    • 4628

                                    #18
                                    I am also offering Ray a free toon if he wants it today.


                                    I'm not such a bad guy right?

                                    Okay...gotta get back to work moving here but I'll make sure that release gets sent out here shortly Ray so that this thread and die into the myst

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                                    • Dalai lama
                                      Strength and Honor
                                      • Jul 2004
                                      • 16540

                                      #19
                                      good stuff from bluewire

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                                      • ~Ray
                                        visit hardlinks.org
                                        • Jun 2003
                                        • 18361

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Dalai lama
                                        good stuff from bluewire
                                        he is a nice guy
                                        he does good designs
                                        his prices are reasonable
                                        this is his 11th promise to me

                                        we'll see
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                                        • Shoehorn!
                                          Die With Your Boots On
                                          • Oct 2003
                                          • 22872

                                          #21
                                          Mike is a good guy, I am sure he'll do what he can to make you happy.

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                                          • aico
                                            Moo Moo Cow
                                            • Mar 2004
                                            • 14748

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by 2257-Ben
                                            Unless your contract with Bluewire Designs specifically states they own the copyrights to the designs they produce AND you agree to the terms of the contract, as a work for hire, you own the rights to the designs and don't need a release (under US Copyright law). Be careful about what rights you sign away in a contract.
                                            Not sure where you came up with that info, but that's false. Designer retains ALL rights to ALL designs unless it specifies Full Rights are transfered in the contract.

                                            Only time this would not be true is if the Designer is an employee of a company and is designing something thru that company, then the company owns the rights.

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                                            • BlueWire
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Nov 2004
                                              • 4628

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by aico
                                              Not sure where you came up with that info, but that's false. Designer retains ALL rights to ALL designs unless it specifies Full Rights are transfered in the contract.

                                              Only time this would not be true is if the Designer is an employee of a company and is designing something thru that company, then the company owns the rights.
                                              This is true...In this case there was no contract but ray wanted the rights and I said that was fine by me as long as we can keep in our portfolio

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                                              • eroswebmaster
                                                March 1st, 2003
                                                • Jul 2001
                                                • 20295

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by aico
                                                Not sure where you came up with that info, but that's false. Designer retains ALL rights to ALL designs unless it specifies Full Rights are transfered in the contract.

                                                Only time this would not be true is if the Designer is an employee of a company and is designing something thru that company, then the company owns the rights.

                                                Yep..this is true..and the funny thing...I'm getting ready to serve someone a wake up notice
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                                                • BlueWire
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Nov 2004
                                                  • 4628

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by eroswebmaster
                                                  Yep..this is true..and the funny thing...I'm getting ready to serve someone a wake up notice
                                                  I dig the new sig

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                                                  • aico
                                                    Moo Moo Cow
                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                    • 14748

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by BlueWire
                                                    I dig the new sig
                                                    It's so peaceful, and takes me to that happy place

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