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eroswebmaster · 09-10-2005, 11:56 AM

Most people here would know him for his songs in Natural Born Killers
Waiting for the miracle
The Anthem
The Future
..but the guy has an extensive library.

Good stuff if you haven't ever checked him out.

Trixie · 09-10-2005, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

Most people here would know him for his songs in Natural Born Killers
Waiting for the miracle
The Anthem
The Future
..but the guy has an extensive library.

Good stuff if you haven't ever checked him out.

I like Leonard Cohen, but wouldn't say I'm a "big" fan. His life and lyrics are interesting, though.

The other day I was trying to figure out who I'd rather fuck: Leonard Cohen or Tom Waits. I still haven't decided.

Theo · 09-10-2005, 12:13 PM

no, but Leonard de caprio yes

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-10-2005, 12:20 PM

I learned about Leonard Cohen by hearing others singing his songs. "Suzanne" was one of my earliest folk song favorites.

It was not until years later that I finally heard Leonard Cohen singing his songs in his own distinctive style and voice. I've enjoyed his music ever since.

His poetry is also quite good.

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escorpio · 09-10-2005, 12:55 PM

Not a huge fan but I like some of his stuff. Saw him in '88 and the show was very good.

hershie · 09-10-2005, 01:04 PM

I am a big fan.

Here is recent sad news:

Leonard Cohen's lost fortune
Canadian singer's savings wiped out, Maclean's story says

Scott Stinson
National Post
Tuesday, August 16, 2005

Leonard Cohen is almost broke and embroiled in a bitter legal dispute with former close associates that runs contrary to his Zen Buddhist beliefs.

Mr. Cohen's financial and legal woes are detailed in a Maclean's magazine report that describes how the poet, singer and songwriter discovered in October that his retirement savings had been whittled from an estimated US$5-million to about US$150,000.

"I was devastated," the Maclean's story quotes Mr. Cohen as saying when he learned of his lost fortune, which has required him to mortgage a house to pay legal bills. Mr. Cohen, 70, has only been aware of his money problems for less than a year, but it seems they coincide with a 2001 decision to put the proceeds from an US$8-million sale of his copyright and royalty rights into a company called Traditional Holdings LLC.

Maclean's says the new company was 99.5% owned by Kelley Lynch, Mr. Cohen's personal manager since 1988. Mr. Cohen held 0.5% of the company.

The magazine story says the unusual arrangement was decided upon for tax reasons, but that Mr. Cohen trusted absolutely the motives of Ms. Lynch and the guidance of his long-time financial advisor, Neal Greenberg.

Over the next few years, according to a lawsuit filed in Colorado in June, Ms. Lynch borrowed repeatedly from Traditional Holdings coffers, sometimes taking out tens of thousands of dollars at a time.

While Mr. Cohen fired Ms. Lynch upon learning of his depleted bank balance in October, he told Maclean's that Mr. Greenberg is also to blame for allowing the repeated withdrawals to continue without warning the singer-songwriter directly about his problems.

Mr. Greenberg, whose money-management firm Agile Group is based in Denver, has insisted Mr. Cohen was aware of his financial dealings. He said he launched the June lawsuit against Mr. Cohen -- Ms. Lynch is also named -- because the singer-songwriter and his lawyer, Robert Kory, were trying to extort money from him. The lawsuit says Mr. Cohen and his lawyer threatened to go public with allegations of his financial mismanagement in attempt to ruin his business.

"Agile states that Cohen and Kory falsely claim that Agile bears responsibility for the alleged misappropriation of Cohen's invested funds by Cohen's former manager," the lawsuit says. "The complaint also states that Cohen and Kory attempted to [and in some instances did] recruit third parties in their conspiracy and procure false testimony."

Mr. Greenberg's lawsuit also says Mr. Cohen spent much of his missing millions in order to support his "extravagant 'celebrity' lifestyle," although repeated newspaper profiles have described Mr. Cohen as someone who avoids the trappings of celebrity and maintains modest homes in Montreal and Los Angeles.

Mr. Kory released a statement in June that said Mr. Greenberg's claim was "completely consistent with Agile's reckless disregard for its client and his investments."

"We had hoped to reach an out-of-court settlement with Agile that returned to Mr. Cohen some portion of the retirement money the firm was authorized to administer on his behalf. Instead, in the middle of negotiations to determine Agile's responsibilities to Mr. Cohen to compensate him for money lost under their management, Agile launched a surprise attack in an effort to besmirch the reputation of one of its notable clients," the statement said, adding that a countersuit would be forthcoming.

None of the allegations in Mr. Greenberg's lawsuit has been proven in court.

Ms. Lynch told Maclean's she had done nothing wrong and said she would sue Mr. Cohen and others involved in the case.

The magazine quotes Mr. Cohen as saying he only decided to sue upon realizing he would have to pay taxes on millions of dollars he no longer had.

"I don't want anybody hurt," he says. "It's not my nature to pursue and contend with people that way."

? National Post 2005

fudpuck · 09-10-2005, 01:38 PM

Not a huge fan, but he has a unique approach that I really enjoy. The songs from 'The Future' are awesome, but there are a couple older songs I enjoy too...'Teachers' is one of those.

That sucks his $$ went down the tubes...

jonesy · 09-10-2005, 02:09 PM

7 people not bad - i thought there would be less -

SL|M! · 09-10-2005, 02:11 PM

hes broke now

eroswebmaster · 09-10-2005, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jonesy

7 people not bad - i thought there would be less -

So far if I recall he's faring better on here than Nina Simone.

Jason · 09-10-2005, 02:20 PM

that sucks about his $$$.. his music is awsome.

"Baby, I've been waiting"

Mikey_219Inc · 09-10-2005, 03:10 PM

sorry that long fing post was too much to read, but shouldnt this guy be riding the gravy train for 'hallelujah' being on shrek ...

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hershie Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,642	I am a big fan. Here is recent sad news: Leonard Cohen's lost fortune Canadian singer's savings wiped out, Maclean's story says Scott Stinson National Post Tuesday, August 16, 2005 Leonard Cohen is almost broke and embroiled in a bitter legal dispute with former close associates that runs contrary to his Zen Buddhist beliefs. Mr. Cohen's financial and legal woes are detailed in a Maclean's magazine report that describes how the poet, singer and songwriter discovered in October that his retirement savings had been whittled from an estimated US$5-million to about US$150,000. "I was devastated," the Maclean's story quotes Mr. Cohen as saying when he learned of his lost fortune, which has required him to mortgage a house to pay legal bills. Mr. Cohen, 70, has only been aware of his money problems for less than a year, but it seems they coincide with a 2001 decision to put the proceeds from an US$8-million sale of his copyright and royalty rights into a company called Traditional Holdings LLC. Maclean's says the new company was 99.5% owned by Kelley Lynch, Mr. Cohen's personal manager since 1988. Mr. Cohen held 0.5% of the company. The magazine story says the unusual arrangement was decided upon for tax reasons, but that Mr. Cohen trusted absolutely the motives of Ms. Lynch and the guidance of his long-time financial advisor, Neal Greenberg. Over the next few years, according to a lawsuit filed in Colorado in June, Ms. Lynch borrowed repeatedly from Traditional Holdings coffers, sometimes taking out tens of thousands of dollars at a time. While Mr. Cohen fired Ms. Lynch upon learning of his depleted bank balance in October, he told Maclean's that Mr. Greenberg is also to blame for allowing the repeated withdrawals to continue without warning the singer-songwriter directly about his problems. Mr. Greenberg, whose money-management firm Agile Group is based in Denver, has insisted Mr. Cohen was aware of his financial dealings. He said he launched the June lawsuit against Mr. Cohen -- Ms. Lynch is also named -- because the singer-songwriter and his lawyer, Robert Kory, were trying to extort money from him. The lawsuit says Mr. Cohen and his lawyer threatened to go public with allegations of his financial mismanagement in attempt to ruin his business. "Agile states that Cohen and Kory falsely claim that Agile bears responsibility for the alleged misappropriation of Cohen's invested funds by Cohen's former manager," the lawsuit says. "The complaint also states that Cohen and Kory attempted to [and in some instances did] recruit third parties in their conspiracy and procure false testimony." Mr. Greenberg's lawsuit also says Mr. Cohen spent much of his missing millions in order to support his "extravagant 'celebrity' lifestyle," although repeated newspaper profiles have described Mr. Cohen as someone who avoids the trappings of celebrity and maintains modest homes in Montreal and Los Angeles. Mr. Kory released a statement in June that said Mr. Greenberg's claim was "completely consistent with Agile's reckless disregard for its client and his investments." "We had hoped to reach an out-of-court settlement with Agile that returned to Mr. Cohen some portion of the retirement money the firm was authorized to administer on his behalf. Instead, in the middle of negotiations to determine Agile's responsibilities to Mr. Cohen to compensate him for money lost under their management, Agile launched a surprise attack in an effort to besmirch the reputation of one of its notable clients," the statement said, adding that a countersuit would be forthcoming. None of the allegations in Mr. Greenberg's lawsuit has been proven in court. Ms. Lynch told Maclean's she had done nothing wrong and said she would sue Mr. Cohen and others involved in the case. The magazine quotes Mr. Cohen as saying he only decided to sue upon realizing he would have to pay taxes on millions of dollars he no longer had. "I don't want anybody hurt," he says. "It's not my nature to pursue and contend with people that way." ? National Post 2005

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